PA Governor's COVID-19 Restrictions Ruled Unconstitutional By Federal Judge

[Robert]

Democratic Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf's pandemic restrictions - including a requirement that "non-life-sustaining" businesses were to shut down - has been ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge.

https://6abc.com/health/judge-pennsylvanias-pandemic-restrictions-unconstitutional/6422411/

 

[Rams]

Being honest, I've got mixed feelings about this.  I agree with the judge but, I've witnessed how the public doesn't take this virus seriously and take it home to those with weaken immune systems.   Hope it works out to all our benefit.   Could be a long fall and winter.

Rams

[Willow]

Being honest, I've got mixed feelings about this.  I agree with the judge but, I've witnessed how the public doesn't take this virus seriously and take it home to those with weaken immune systems.   ...  

The judge's job is to interpret the existing laws, not to decide what's best for the population at large.

Those with weakened immune systems?  The highest risk group, those with existing cardio-vascular disease, have a 10.5% death rate.  That is even when they catch the disease they have an 89.5% chance of survival.  That's not as imminently morbid as we are being led to believe.  That is the highest risk group.  The risk of death decreases for each of the other "high risk" groups.

We are damaging the economy and social structure (and causing other deaths) to protect a small percentage of the population from catching a disease from which they have nine chances out of ten of surviving.

Does this make sense to anyone?  

For what it's worth I am in the second highest risk group.  As a diabetic I have a 92.3% chance of survival if I catch the disease.  I'm washing my hands more often than I once did but I don't wnat anyone wearing masks or closing down businesses to lower my chances. 

[Serk]

[Farside]

  An alarming rate 

[ridingron]

...  Those with weakened immune systems?  The highest risk group, those with existing cardio-vascular disease, have a 10.5% death rate.  That is even when they catch the disease they have an 89.5% chance of survival.  That's not as imminently morbid as we are being led to believe.  That is the highest risk group.  The risk of death decreases for each of the other "high risk" groups.

We are damaging the economy and social structure (and causing other deaths) to protect a small percentage of the population from catching a disease from which they have nine chances out of ten of surviving.

Does this make sense to anyone? ...  

I really wish this was how this virus was being reported. The facts not the scare tactics. But then it would be harder to get and keep the sheep in line.

[DIGGER]

Love it....haha

[Rams]

Being honest, I've got mixed feelings about this.  I agree with the judge but, I've witnessed how the public doesn't take this virus seriously and take it home to those with weaken immune systems.   ...  

The judge's job is to interpret the existing laws, not to decide what's best for the population at large.

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For what it's worth I am in the second highest risk group.  As a diabetic I have a 92.3% chance of survival if I catch the disease.  I'm washing my hands more often than I once did but I don't wnat anyone wearing masks or closing down businesses to lower my chances. 

For what it's worth, I agree.  According to my "Special Doc", I'm in the highest risk group and I still agree that I don't want the economy shut down.   

I've also seen the result of those that don't wish to cooperate and have attended two memorials for folks with "weakened" immune systems that were trying to follow CDC guidance.   Unfortunately, their adult children weren't and brought it home to the elderly parents.

Survival rates are high admittedly, at least until it hits someone you know.

Rams

[scooperhsd]

I'm in the same group as Willow, and honestly - I would LOVE to totally shed all masks. Those who feel they are especially at risk can stay home. The rest of us can get on with living. And getting the economy rolling again.

[Rams]

I'm in the same group as Willow, and honestly - I would LOVE to totally shed all masks. Those who feel they are especially at risk can stay home. The rest of us can get on with living. And getting the economy rolling again.

Believe it or not, I agree.  
Edited:  With a caveat, no one knows if they are a carrier until they show systems.   Limiting visits with elderly and those with weakened immune systems is probably a good thing.   They may not have that long left anyway but I for one would not wish to shorten what time they do have nor would I enjoy knowing I had given them something that made them suffer as serious COVID 19 patients do and have.
According to folks I know with first hand knowledge, it is not a pleasant passing.  ( If, there is such a thing.)

Each individual's risk profile is ultimately important.  The decision whether to "mask up" or not should be ultimately left to each individual.   It is also our responsibility to not share this virus just like any other disease.

Rams

[old2soon]

        Here in Willow Springs we are attempting to git back to normal. We have 3 or 4 inside dining resturants here that Are Serving inside. Micky Ds on the other hand while you are ""allowed"" to purchase food there you can NOT consume it at their tables. Their corporate mama has determined this for them. Wally wurld lets me in sans mask and I noticed the other day they appear to be easing up on mask enforcement. I duz carry my O2 bottle with me while in wally wurld. Aldi has/had a mask requirement but they also appear to Not be enforcing it. I still lay this at the feet of the chinese gubmint. Timing just a lit-no-VERY suspect. RIDE SAFE.

[scooperhsd]

If I KNOW or strongly suspect I might have the virus - yes I would quarantine at home. Well, except maybe for an initial supply trip

[..]

Cloth masks will not protect you from wildfire smoke.

https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/covid-19/wildfire_smoke_covid-19.html
Cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of COVID-19 by blocking respiratory droplets offer little protection against wildfire smoke. They do not catch small, harmful particles in smoke that can harm your health.

Although N95 respirators do provide protection from wildfire smoke, they might be in short supply as frontline healthcare workers use them during the pandemic.




https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/can-masks-capture-coronavirus/
Coronavirus particles (fancy scientific name “virions”) are spheres with diameters of approximately 0.125 microns (125 nm). The smallest particles are 0.06 microns, and the largest are 0.14 microns.



https://dec.alaska.gov/air/air-monitoring/wildfire-smoke-info.aspx
 Small particles less than 10 micrometers (microns) in diameter pose the greatest problems, because they can get deep into your lungs, and some may even get into your bloodstream. Exposure to such particles can affect both your lungs and your heart.

[Rams]

Cloth masks will not protect you from wildfire smoke.

https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/covid-19/wildfire_smoke_covid-19.html
Cloth masks that are used to slow the spread of COVID-19 by blocking respiratory droplets offer little protection against wildfire smoke. They do not catch small, harmful particles in smoke that can harm your health.

 

While this is true, cloth masks do help hide your identity while rioting.   This much has been proven. 

Rams