Drilling Frame for Hemet Lock Install

[Kaldan2914]

Anybody have any knowledge about whether drilling two screw holes in the flat triangular section of the frame just in front of the top of the shocks would be catastrophically detrimental? I can't imagine it would.

I plan to mount a helmet lock on either side of the bike, and this seems like the most inconspicuous place.

I'd add photos, but photostash is not giving me the option of uploading.

[Relax]

I would think it was more easy ways to lock the helmet?

[The emperor has no clothes]

The Standard and Tourer models already have a helmet lock. It is the cable under the seat. Granted they are kind of a pain.

[Chrisj CMA]

I would nit drill holes in my frame. Especially right at one of the highest stress points. There’s some pretty cool handlebar ends that are helmet locks

[Timbo1]

Perhaps just use a short cable loop attached to seat lock.  When riding just tuck in under seat or side panel.  When locking helmet, unlock seat > pull cable out > loop it through metal hoop in helmet and back to seat lock mechanism > Lock seat back down and remove key.

[Bagger John - #3785]

I would not drill holes in my frame. Especially right at one of the highest stress points. There’s some pretty cool handlebar ends that are helmet locks

This. On my I/S which wears no trunk I used a KewlMetal lock that fits on the end of an ISO-Grip, replacing the stock end cap.

It was on another bike prior. And has worked in said capacity for a dozen or more years.

[sandy]

Big bike parts sells a pin that replaces the pivot screw on the clutch handle. Comes with a small padlock to lock the D rings to the pin. had one on two valks: no problems.

[Challenger]

I'm with Chris. High stress area especially for four holes.
I use a choker chain with welded links and use the factory helmet hook. It works great for riding jacket also, just run chain through the sleeve and lay it back on the seat

[Kaldan2914]

I'm picky, and I don't trust anyone.

I don't want to have to take my seat off every time, and I don't like the bar end locks (pieces to drop, helmets swinging in the breeze to get scuffed up). I want to hide the lock as much as possible, and that seemed like the most out-of-sight spot.

[Bighead]

I'm picky, and I don't trust anyone.

I don't want to have to take my seat off every time, and I don't like the bar end locks (pieces to drop, helmets swinging in the breeze to get scuffed up). I want to hide the lock as much as possible, and that seemed like the most out-of-sight spot.

I would never drill into the frame. I understand you say you don’t trust anyone. Anyone that would steal your helmet would just as easily cut the strap so it is useless if locked. I have never locked a helmet and just place them on the seat never a problem in any state or city I was in.

[Jess from VA]

I don't want to have to take my seat off every time

All you do is stick the key in the hole under the seat and turn, and the seat pops up (and slams shut).  

You don't have to take it off.

I don't have or use a cable, but I like the idea because you want to be able to lock the helmet in the shade and not have it sit in the sun all day (and then put back on).  A cable should give a bit of flexibility on location.  

I have a handgrip endcap lock on one bike and the stock interstate locks (trunk) on the other bike, but I have only ever rarely used them (because I rarely park and leave my bike in public places for long hours unattended).  Mine sits on my driver's backrest, or on the shady side highway peg (95% of the time).    

But my helmet was $135 new, not $600.  That I would lock up every time, or carry.  I worry much more about trying to figure out how to ride home with no helmet, than losing the value of my helmet.

I don't see why you can't use a standard long bicycle padlock and put it any number of places.  (In the shade, and so it dosen't collect rain.)




What I have seen guys do my whole life is put it inside down, on the pavement under the bike.  And then never check for spiders or fire ants before putting it back on.  And it's usually all warm and sweaty when it comes off, and bugs hate that.  

[ridingron]

I have a bracket that goes under the license plate with a helmet lock on each side of the plate. Similar to the Kuryakyn set up. Someone wants to steal it, as easy as cutting the chin strap.


https://www.motorcycleid.com/helmet-locks.html





http://www.nationalcycle.com/z5505a.html

[CoreyP]

Big bike parts sells a pin that replaces the pivot screw on the clutch handle. Comes with a small padlock to lock the D rings to the pin. had one on two valks: no problems.

Oh, I wondering what that thing is for. LOL. I have one on my bike and couldn't figure out why it's there, I don't have the lock to it.

[Jims99]

I don't want to have to take my seat off every time

All you do is stick the key in the hole under the seat and turn, and the seat pops up (and slams shut).  

You don't have to take it off.

I don't have or use a cable, but I like the idea because you want to be able to lock the helmet in the shade and not have it sit in the sun all day (and then put back on).  A cable should give a bit of flexibility on location.  

I have a handgrip endcap lock on one bike and the stock interstate locks (trunk) on the other bike, but I have only ever rarely used them (because I rarely park and leave my bike in public places for long hours unattended).  Mine sits on my driver's backrest, or on the shady side highway peg (95% of the time).    

But my helmet was $135 new, not $600.  That I would lock up every time, or carry.  I worry much more about trying to figure out how to ride home with no helmet, than losing the value of my helmet.

I don't see why you can't use a standard long bicycle padlock and put it any number of places.  (In the shade, and so it dosen't collect rain.)




What I have seen guys do my whole life is put it inside down, on the pavement under the bike.  And then never check for spiders or fire ants before putting it back on.  And it's usually all warm and sweaty when it comes off, and bugs hate that.  

I like this idea, but how about a trigger lock. They are smaller and plenty strong enough.

[Jess from VA]

I like this idea, but how about a trigger lock. They are smaller and plenty strong enough.

Yes, good idea. 

I have over a dozen of those stupid locks thrown in a drawer somewhere.

Like I'm actually going to use them on a firearm.   

[vanagon40]

I'm about like Jess. I paid only $37 for my HJC helment, so I rarely lock it.

But when I do, I use a small Master Lock cable lock. Only $12 at Amazon

[Madmike]

Meth heads here will steal anything for a buck so a helmet is tempting.  No helmet there you sit - not wearing one is not an option here.

[Jess from VA]

In my youth, I made it home without a helmet a couple times.  (helmet state)

It never got stolen; both times I found a girl who wanted to go home with me and it was the only right and gentlemanly thing to do to give her my helmet for the ride home (no spare).  

Never got a ticket.  Got lucky both times (which was the whole idea).

However out at my college, I gave a gal a ride (and my helmet), and the campus cop got all excited about it.  She asked if we were in trouble, and I said only I was.  Let her off, she gave me back my helmet, I put it on, told her to walk away, and he pulled me over anyway.  Ticket.

But I was still ahead, two to one.    

Not that I rode around trolling for women as a pastime (or I'd have carried a spare helmet), these things just happen.  Well, they happened in my youth, a long time ago.  But not lately.

I have thought that if my helmet got stolen, and I couldn't scrounge another, I'd take my ball cap and pad it up with my gauntlet gloves and spare Tshirt, and take my roll of duct tape and wrap it around my head enough times to make it look like a silver helmet and ride for home, or the closest helmet store (maybe wait till dark).    

[98valk]

I installed a chrome Bikers Choice Helmet Lock 74937S2  on the crash bar

https://www.amazon.com/Bikers-Choice-Helmet-Lock-74937S2/dp/B000WJYMMQ/ref=sr_1_11?crid=1Y6E5B0EGWXHR&dchild=1&keywords=helmet+lock+motorcycle&qid=1600342444&sprefix=helmet+lock%2Caps%2C400&sr=8-11

[Bagger John - #3785]

However out at my college, I gave a gal a ride (and my helmet), and the campus cop got all excited about it

Campus cop...about half a step more important than a mall cop in the grand scheme of things, and roughly on par with a School Resource Officer.

I'll leave it to the reader to research the exploits of derring-do for which these heroes are renowned.

Back to your regularly scheduled lock thread.

[Jess from VA]

However out at my college, I gave a gal a ride (and my helmet), and the campus cop got all excited about it

Campus cop...about half a step more important than a mall cop in the grand scheme of things, and roughly on par with a School Resource Officer.

I'll leave it to the reader to research the exploits of derring-do for which these heroes are renowned.

Back to your regularly scheduled lock thread.

Yeah John, you nailed it pretty well.  We had a decent (small) university police department, who I had ocassion to work with as an RA in the dorms for three years, including rape and armed robbery and other things.  Decent detectives.  But they had one old fat guy who did nothing but give tickets all day every day, and who was not beloved of the student body (and so you couldn't blame him for hating the students back).

This goes back even further to the typical Town (cops and city fathers)-Gown (university students) situation that was not uncommon in those years.  All university towns benefit greatly financially from student spending.  But the young long hairs were not favored in any conservative towns.  It got bad after the voting age was lowered to 18, and it suddenly became apparent that large state universities had the power to unelect long-standing city fathers, and put hippies in those offices.  (As it turned out, it was never such a threat, as the students never gained the solidarity the city fathers feared).  

As an example, the first national election where my university (on and off campus students) got to vote (1972), the town stuck one tiny polling place out on the fringes of town with only two voting machines (for ALL of us), and we lined up by the thousands, outdoors in a November snow and ice storm, to wait to vote, and it took all day.  Guys took to taking food and beer orders from those in line and running relays to supply the voters in line.  Then the local newspapers carried stories about the drunken asshole students disrespecting democracy (with no mention of the dirty trick the town played on us with the tiny poling place with two machines).

So anyway the ticket guy would sit outside the dorms on move-in weekends when kids were trying to get whole carloads of personal stuff up to their rooms as fast as they could, and when the 9-10 parking spots passed the 5-minute time limits, everyone got a ticket.  That guy became famous and infamous. Complaints to the U PD about him were a waste of time.

After I watched him in action one move-in weekend, I took a can of spray paint one night and covered the clear meter windows with paint on a whole sh!tload of meters, so tickets could not be written (time expiration was not visible). (Of course, I got the idea from Cool Hand Luke, though paint was much quicker and easier than cutting them off.)

And that's the cop that wrote me for no helmet, riding on U property, and fleeing and eluding.  I did not flee and elude, but I did ride slowly up and down rows of cars in a big parking lot while he wildly ran his lights and sirens after me up and down the rows, for about 5 minutes.  I may have actually got his head to explode, boy was he pissed off.  Anyway, I went to court and told the judge the whole story and offered to plead to the helmet ticket if the others were dropped, and the judge took the deal.  

The only car I ever had stolen in my life was from the big U parking lot out on north campus (we were all required to use), the U PD did not secure or even patrol that lot, and dozens of cars were stolen.  I ran a letter in the U newspaper threatening to steal a car a night just to demonstrate how inept they were (though I had no intention of doing so).  Well I got hauled into the U PD detectives and had a nice discussion for an afternoon.  But no charges.  And my van was NEVER recovered. (and Allstate paid me a third of it's value.)  When I suggested they stick Parking Ticket Bob out in the north campus lot driving around slowly all night every night with his lights on, they laughed their asses off, but admitted they needed the revenue from all his tickets.

Fun (and true) stories from the past.