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hubcapsc
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« on: September 16, 2020, 02:04:27 PM »


It is that time of year again. The wild ones are the only kind I like,
the cultivated ones are... too cultivated...

Neighbor Dan pulled down a vine from a tree and strung it up
years ago. Last year, it was freakishly full of more muscadines
than I've ever seen. Smokin' Joe was here then and we walked
up there and ate some muscadines from it...



This year it had zilch. Really, none. Ok, I ate one from it.

I've been walking around picking handfuls from here or there, when they're
in reach, millions of them are way out of reach in the trees. It is near the
end, so today I took a drop cloth and the saw-on-a-pole and hooked it way
up in some vines and did some shaking... got a couple of pockets
full...



-Mike
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2020, 02:07:44 PM »

I've never seen those before, look like small plums or really big grapes....What are they like?
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2020, 02:15:28 PM »

I've never seen those before, look like small plums or really big grapes....What are they like?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_rotundifolia

Eating them is an art. You don't eat the outside. You 'pop' the inside out
by squeezing them and they bust open at the point where the stem was.
There's yummy juice inside, and a unique  gelatinous blob of a sack with
some seeds in it. You have to master the art of extracting the seeds
from the sack while it is in your mouth, spit out the seeds and chew
up the sack. They're not like plums or any of the grapes you'd normally
see at the grocery store. They have a whole bunch of kinds of cultivated
ones that are large and always disappointing to me, I avoid them...

-Mike
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2020, 02:24:10 PM »

Are they used to make muscatel wines"
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2020, 02:28:09 PM »

Are they used to make muscatel wines"

They definitely make wine from muscadines. The people who drink
vintner's choice Cabernets and the people who drink muscadine
wine probably don't run in the same circles, though...  coolsmiley

-Mike
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2020, 02:47:51 PM »

Are they used to make muscatel wines"

They definitely make wine from muscadines. The people who drink
vintner's choice Cabernets and the people who drink muscadine
wine probably don't run in the same circles, though...  coolsmiley

-Mike

When I drink wine, there is no telling what circles I'll run in.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2020, 02:49:41 PM »

Had a bag of white ones yesterday. I prefer the black ones but they were good none the less cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2020, 04:17:35 PM »

oooo, wild grapes. mmmmmm.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2020, 06:55:31 PM »

those look yummy would like to try some of them sometime like grapes.

reminds me last year atving up in northern WI we came across on atv trails dozens of vines of blackberries HUGE ones size of quarters all over the place.  WE stopped and ate and ate and ate 100's of them melt in your mouth.  The larger ones seeds are almost non existent when perfectly ripe melt in your mouth nothing like what you can get in any store.  This year we went same place too early in late August only seen a few that were barely ripe.  oh well, timing is everything.    We were in bear country and did not deviate too far off the ATV trail but a few times I got back in there with growth over my head thinking there could be a black bear 5 feet in front of me and would never see it until right up close.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2020, 07:48:24 PM »

A couple of grounds keepers were picking on campus today.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2020, 04:18:04 AM »

Hey Mike I have a one Fry and one Cowart Muscadine vine.  I like the purple Cowart the best but so do the racoons.  I'm lucky if I get a few before they find them.  Might I suggest that you plant yourself some of these, you will be glad you did in a few years.

https://www.isons.com/shop/muscadines/self-fertile-varieties/cowart-muscadine/
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2020, 04:35:22 AM »

Hey Mike I have a one Fry and one Cowart Muscadine vine.  I like the purple Cowart the best but so do the racoons.  I'm lucky if I get a few before they find them.  Might I suggest that you plant yourself some of these, you will be glad you did in a few years.

https://www.isons.com/shop/muscadines/self-fertile-varieties/cowart-muscadine/

Thanks for the suggestion, I read the isons page...

After all these years and the numerous cultivated ones I've tried, I can't
see me planting any muscadine cultivars... have you ever had any
giant black perfect wild ones? All the ones from Neighbor Dan's vine
last year were the kind ... I had a few really good ones this year
from a vine I scouted out on the back of one of Carolyn's horse
pastures. The ones in the bowl in my this-year's picture were only
OK, it is near the end and they were past their prime... I should have
taken the saw-on-a-pole out there earlier, but that's hard to do when
there's still pocket fulls to be had within reach...

-Mike
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2020, 10:44:08 AM »

I'll transplant things to the back hedgerow. Blueberries, Raspberries, Thimbleberries. They  seem to do best like that.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2020, 11:35:24 AM »

Wild ones down here we call fox grapes and they are small and mostly seeds wrapped in a purple shell.  Not worth the trouble honestly but the animals like them.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2020, 11:49:24 AM »

Wild ones down here we call fox grapes and they are small and mostly seeds wrapped in a purple shell.  Not worth the trouble honestly but the animals like them.

The wiki says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_labrusca              fox grapes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitis_rotundifolia         mmmmm-uscadines

-Mike
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2020, 08:15:02 PM »

Hey Mike I have a one Fry and one Cowart Muscadine vine.  I like the purple Cowart the best but so do the racoons.  I'm lucky if I get a few before they find them.  Might I suggest that you plant yourself some of these, you will be glad you did in a few years.

https://www.isons.com/shop/muscadines/self-fertile-varieties/cowart-muscadine/

Thanks for the suggestion, I read the isons page...

After all these years and the numerous cultivated ones I've tried, I can't
see me planting any muscadine cultivars... have you ever had any
giant black perfect wild ones? All the ones from Neighbor Dan's vine
last year were the kind ... I had a few really good ones this year
from a vine I scouted out on the back of one of Carolyn's horse
pastures. The ones in the bowl in my this-year's picture were only
OK, it is near the end and they were past their prime... I should have
taken the saw-on-a-pole out there earlier, but that's hard to do when
there's still pocket fulls to be had within reach...

-Mike
When I was a kid we went berry picking every fall. The blueberries were my favorite. Ain't found nothing close yet. My Mom would make blueberry pies, low bush cranberry catsup, and currant jam.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2020, 10:26:00 PM »

I've always enjoyed finding muscadines in the woods around here. Finding some wild plums growing in an old fence row is a treat too...  Smiley The blackberries near me didn't do much this year.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2020, 03:09:27 AM »

Meathead's blueberries look awesome... there's numerous kinds of wild
blueberries around here. All the kinds on our property don't seem to
be much good for eating  Sad ... I've been getting fresh good farmed
blueberries all summer at the Farmer's Markets... I've eaten like a ton
of good blueberries and peaches at breakfast this summer... no
cranberries here of course...

A stoopid storm blew down my favorite plum tree...





Most of the blackberries here have white flowers and they're OK, there
were lots of them this year. We have another variety, though, with pink
flowers, holy cow, are those ever good. We had a lot of them this summer,
maybe they're huckleberries or something?

Oh well... it is over now... time for six months of bananas...

-Mike
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2020, 06:59:29 AM »

Used to stop in Monteagle, TN on the way to FL and pickup Muscadine wine from the now out of business Monteagle Winery west of I24. Always had a great fondness for sweet dessert type wines but not much anymore.
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