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« on: October 08, 2020, 06:14:39 AM » |
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Guys,
I want to offer an apology for my recent behavior on the board. As with many of us, I have fallen victim to my own anger and have engaged in condecention and rudeness, two traits that I despise, while discussing issues of the day with other members here. I am not proud of that.
I could be wrong but I think the reason is that, after two very polarizing presidents in a row, we have become a nation of absolutes. My side v your side, us v them. No grey area, no common ground. We (myself included) tend to identify supporters of a politician as being an extension of that politician. Since we are just regular folks who can't directly express our thoughts to the candidate, we (again, myself included) unfairly take out our frustrations on their supporters.
Combine that with the stresses of daily life plus the way COVID has affected everyone... It's not suprising we're all a little touchy.
If political differences were not in the picture, I don't think anyone here would have any dislike for anyone else. I mean, you can only get so mad about what oil is best or whether or not Cobra pipes lose power, right?.
As for myself, I am definetly a guilty party. I have been fairly relentless and not always very respectful in spouting/arguing my beliefs here lately. For that I apologize. Agree or disagree, I have no desire to show disrespect to anyone on this board.
As for me, I will maintain my beliefs but I'm going to do my very best to keep them to myself and to stick to motorcycle or other non-political topics until after the election. I can't promise total abstinence, but I'll genuinely try.
Ride Safe,
Alien
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 06:18:47 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2020, 06:20:56 AM » |
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Hopefully you'll make it to Athens, OH and we can come to agreement on fixing all the world's ills over some scotch.
I too have been trying, not fully successfully, to lower my snark, and stay out of the mud pit.
Won't say I'll fully stay out, but I've been deleting more of my own posts and/or typing one up, then deciding not to post it than I have actually making the posts lately.
Somehow it helps to type out my diatribe, then just hit the back button on it...
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 06:24:46 AM » |
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That says a lot about ya......i in the past have done the same and and now am trying to mend a few fences...apology accepted. As it was said in the past “Why cant we all get along”
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 06:27:29 AM » |
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If you are ever in S Fla pm me and maybe we can share some wind together. Everyone wants whats best for each other and the US as a whole we just have different understandings on how to get there.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 06:30:56 AM » |
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Hopefully you'll make it to Athens, OH and we can come to agreement on fixing all the world's ills over some scotch.
Don't do it Alien ! Before you know it the hotel management will come out to the parking lot and threaten to call the cops on you.  (at least, that's my version of the story)
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 06:32:36 AM » |
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Hopefully you'll make it to Athens, OH and we can come to agreement on fixing all the world's ills over some scotch.
Don't do it Alien ! Before you know it the hotel management will come out to the parking lot and threaten to call the cops on you.  (at least, that's my version of the story) Those were just secret agents of the deep state worried we were too close to achieving our goal of global peace and harmony!
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 06:37:44 AM » |
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Hopefully you'll make it to Athens, OH and we can come to agreement on fixing all the world's ills over some scotch.
Don't do it Alien ! Before you know it the hotel management will come out to the parking lot and threaten to call the cops on you.  (at least, that's my version of the story) Those were just secret agents of the deep state worried we were too close to achieving our goal of global peace and harmony! Touche' 
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 06:41:57 AM » |
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 We all have our moments..... Alien I responded to your PM did you get it ? Dan
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 07:13:26 AM » |
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Alien, I'm down in San Diego so we're close enough to do a putt fairly easily, we can stop for a beer.. you can bitch to me about politics as I bitch to you about my problems, with enough cross talk neither will hear the other but we may end up feeling better Haha In the grand scheme of my own life.. with all the crap I'm currently dealing with, politics are easy enough to just shove under the rug and forget about. I can't do a damn thing about any of it other than vote, the rest is just a waste of time and precious life energy. If you're down this way Mt. Palomar is a nice ride and The Hideout is a good biker bar with plenty of outdoor seating, it's located in the middle of nowhere which makes it even better.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2020, 07:18:42 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 07:23:03 AM » |
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 Mike, I don't know if you intended humor, or not. But, it had the perfect makings. Short and to the point humor is always best. (I hope you can see this) 
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2020, 07:23:47 AM » |
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I think alot of us are getting wrapped around the axel about the politics and forgetting what this board was created for. Personally, I wouldn't mind taking some wind therapy with anybody here. I for one would also like to apologize if my behaviour hasn't always been reasonable. Alien - apology accepted. I have viewed some of your You-tube videos and I think you would be a great guy to ride with.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 07:39:52 AM » |
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Guys,
I want to offer an apology for my recent behavior on the board. As with many of us, I have fallen victim to my own anger and have engaged in condecention and rudeness, two traits that I despise, while discussing issues of the day with other members here. I am not proud of that.
I could be wrong but I think the reason is that, after two very polarizing presidents in a row, we have become a nation of absolutes. My side v your side, us v them. No grey area, no common ground. We (myself included) tend to identify supporters of a politician as being an extension of that politician. Since we are just regular folks who can't directly express our thoughts to the candidate, we (again, myself included) unfairly take out our frustrations on their supporters.
Combine that with the stresses of daily life plus the way COVID has affected everyone... It's not suprising we're all a little touchy.
If political differences were not in the picture, I don't think anyone here would have any dislike for anyone else. I mean, you can only get so mad about what oil is best or whether or not Cobra pipes lose power, right?.
As for myself, I am definetly a guilty party. I have been fairly relentless and not always very respectful in spouting/arguing my beliefs here lately. For that I apologize. Agree or disagree, I have no desire to show disrespect to anyone on this board.
As for me, I will maintain my beliefs but I'm going to do my very best to keep them to myself and to stick to motorcycle or other non-political topics until after the election. I can't promise total abstinence, but I'll genuinely try.
Ride Safe,
Alien
I’ve never thought any less of you because of your points of view. We are all entitled. DISCUSSION is good, I’ve always believed in that. Discussion can become heated, that’s history. It’s human nature to fight for your beliefs. We’ve all had bad experiences, bad days, weeks, months and years. Crap has a way of piling up and wrecking everything. I don’t believe you’ve killed anyone, I don’t believe you’ve burnt any bridges and you haven’t left any scorched earth so IMO it’s all good so fire at will.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2020, 07:42:12 AM » |
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Personally, I wouldn't mind taking some wind therapy with anybody here.
I'd have to amend that from "anybody" to many. I've seen some here ride. I've read here how some ride.
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2020, 08:07:24 AM » |
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 Mike, I don't know if you intended humor, or not. But, it had the perfect makings. Short and to the point humor is always best. (I hope you can see this)  It was real, not humor... I almost didn't post it since nobody would run scared of getting on my ignore list... but Alien got on it in the last few days or so, he's off now. You've never been on it. Here's how you seem to me: law-abiding, property-owning, tax-paying voter, father, husband, military experience, from another planet, you never make your disagreements with me personal. -Mike
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2020, 08:42:50 AM » |
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Removed from ignore list.
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 Mike, I don't know if you intended humor, or not. But, it had the perfect makings. Short and to the point humor is always best. (I hope you can see this)  It was real, not humor... I almost didn't post it since nobody would run scared of getting on my ignore list... but Alien got on it in the last few days or so, he's off now. You've never been on it. Here's how you seem to me: law-abiding, property-owning, tax-paying voter, father, husband, military experience, from another planet, you never make your disagreements with me personal. -Mike I was just having a discussion with Brenda the other day. She said she never realized what a weirdo I was until I retired and she had to spend more time with me.  As we were walking the parking lot into Walmart I kept explaining to her how I was not a weirdo, but was hilarious and humble at the same time. She wasn't having it. So about then we came upon the Greeter, and I decided to ask her if she thought I was hilarious and humble. She said she didn't know. Coming from someone who is hilarious and humble, let me tell you. You have a gift of humor. (Whether intentional or not) "Don't ever let them crush your dreams"  I hope one day I get to try that Swarmah (sp.) food with you. 
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2020, 09:37:47 AM » |
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2020, 09:59:34 AM » |
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Hopefully you'll make it to Athens, OH and we can come to agreement on fixing all the world's ills over some scotch.
Don't do it Alien ! Before you know it the hotel management will come out to the parking lot and threaten to call the cops on you.  (at least, that's my version of the story) I've heard Rob in real life is a real cut-up....or at least used to be until recently. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2020, 10:52:22 AM » |
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But keep him out of the back of the van if alcohol and any womenfolk are involved. (or maybe just Brenda?)  Alien good on you. When we can not see shades of grey therein lies the trouble. Oss Humble pie enough to go around
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2020, 11:34:52 AM » |
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But keep him out of the back of the van if alcohol and any womenfolk are involved. (or maybe just Brenda?)  Alien good on you. When we can not see shades of grey therein lies the trouble. Oss Humble pie enough to go around Just Brenda. And that's only if I'm extremely lucky, can get her liquored up enough, and the stars align just so. (Unfortunately she became allergic to alcohol about 25 years ago) 
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2020, 11:44:29 AM » |
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Thank you, Alien. I applaud your intent.
For what its worth there are about six other members who would do the board well to follow your lead and those are on both sides of the political divide.
The problem isn't just discussing politics but it is the easy lapse into disrespect during those discussions.
Good for you. Good for us.
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2020, 01:47:57 PM » |
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Personally, I wouldn't mind taking some wind therapy with anybody here.
I'd have to amend that from "anybody" to many. I've seen some here ride. I've read here how some ride. Ok , so maybe you have a point - I'm not as crazy about peg grinding as I used to be, and currently still recovering from Last week..,,.. Getting better, but I'm not up to a bike ride yet...
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2020, 02:01:04 PM » |
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"polarizing president"
u just can't help yourself can u? u need to address yourself if u don't understand that Trump is trying to return this country to a rule of law and following the USC.
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2020, 02:43:35 PM » |
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"polarizing president"
u just can't help yourself can u? u need to address yourself if u don't understand that Trump is trying to return this country to a rule of law and following the USC.
To Aliens defense he did say 2 polorizing POTUS’s. But I think one was more than the other. Not saying which.
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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2020, 04:42:04 PM » |
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"polarizing president"
u just can't help yourself can u? u need to address yourself if u don't understand that Trump is trying to return this country to a rule of law and following the USC.
To Aliens defense he did say 2 polorizing POTUS’s. But I think one was more than the other. Not saying which. It's a matter of perspective. From where I sit I saw the Democrats in Congress and the liberal media doing all they could to separate the country into anti-President and pro-President. I don't see that as Donald Trump's fault. It's a continuation of what was already taking place before him. In the spirit of the O.P. we should just let it pass as a matter of perspective and not cause this thread to deteriorate into argument.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2020, 04:45:04 PM » |
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No worries.
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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2020, 05:02:33 PM » |
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"polarizing president"
u just can't help yourself can u? u need to address yourself if u don't understand that Trump is trying to return this country to a rule of law and following the USC.
To Aliens defense he did say 2 polorizing POTUS’s. But I think one was more than the other. Not saying which. Polarize - to break up into opposing factions or groupings... Trump is polarizing as all get out. -Mike "just like O'bama"...
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2020, 05:12:26 PM » |
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"polarizing president"
u just can't help yourself can u? u need to address yourself if u don't understand that Trump is trying to return this country to a rule of law and following the USC.
To Aliens defense he did say 2 polorizing POTUS’s. But I think one was more than the other. Not saying which. Polarize - to break up into opposing factions or groupings... Trump is polarizing as all get out. -Mike "just like O'bama"... In totally different ways.
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2020, 05:16:12 PM » |
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In the spirit of the O.P. we should just let it pass as a matter of perspective and not cause this thread to deteriorate into argument.
This to will pass.  Rams
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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2020, 11:02:48 AM » |
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But keep him out of the back of the van if alcohol and any womenfolk are involved. (or maybe just Brenda?)  Alien good on you. When we can not see shades of grey therein lies the trouble. Oss Humble pie enough to go around One time I saw 50 shades of Grey. 
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« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2020, 11:22:27 AM » |
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This year has been particularly difficult to stay out of the fray. I've been through many election cycles, but this one feels so much different. Like Serk, I've typed many responses only to hit the back button afterward.
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2020, 11:48:09 AM » |
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But keep him out of the back of the van if alcohol and any womenfolk are involved. (or maybe just Brenda?)  Alien good on you. When we can not see shades of grey therein lies the trouble. Oss Humble pie enough to go around One time I saw 50 shades of Grey.  #Metoo.. last time I buzzed my hair off
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I THOUGHT midol would help.  It didn't.  And lately I've thought long and hard and Still Not posted. Alien-post yer ride vids again. Those I Liked.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2020, 08:40:09 AM » |
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2020, 10:46:08 AM » |
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 Avoided you like COVID19, now I'll venture out. Good move. 
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