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The Strange and Terrible Saga of Michigan's Bizarre One Term Tyrant " Governor": Whitmer is claiming she was the intended target of a kidnapping... https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/michigan-gov-whitmer-kidnap-livestream/5922742002/AD Nessel (D) is in lockstep with Gretch, gung-ho to keep MI establishments on lock-dowm until after the election. " Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and federal officers on Thursday described "elaborate plans" by a group of men linked to a militia to overthrow the government and kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from her vacation home ahead of the Nov. 3 election. " Most likely a Jussie Smollett type attempt for Gretch, the attention starved tyrant Live News Conference @ 3pm |
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 01:16:59 PM » |
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I wonder what the plan was?
To tie and mask her in a clown suit, and put her in a closet until the next election?
Ask a buck two nintey-eight for ransom, then renege and ask for 50.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2020, 02:46:59 PM » |
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Patrick
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 04:57:50 PM » |
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I see so far that 13 have been arrested. And for what purpose ?
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 05:24:04 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 07:44:52 PM » |
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The timing is suspicious. The FBI has made two major announcements since all their internal documents were declassified.
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f6john
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2020, 06:43:17 AM » |
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Looking back at our history over the past 50-60 years we have had multiple assassinations, and assassination attempts. Is it fair to say that the environment we live in today is even more polarizing and radicalized than anytime during those 60 years? I am amazed that no one has taken a shot at a target on either side of the political spectrum. Maybe security measures are far better these days compared to the past which is a good thing. We have also seen that there are plenty of people willing to shoot, riot, burn, destroy so is it too far of a stretch to see the pot boil over? Political leaders all over the country are making themselves targets and their rhetoric is constantly fanning the flame. Or maybe I’m looking at this all wrong and 2020 is just one big American love fest.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2020, 07:09:08 AM » |
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Orange Man Bad is the NPC response for dang near anything these days... Turns out the ringleader of these clowns that were arrested hates Trump too, so much for that theory then... "Trump is not your friend, dude. It amazes me that people actually believe that when he's shown over and over and over again that he's a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy, dude." (And yes, The Babylon Bee has a new sister site of REAL news that SEEMS like parody, Not The Bee) https://notthebee.com/article/gov-whitmer-blames-kidnapping-plot-on-trump-heres-one-of-the-groups-ringleaders-talking-about-how-he-hates-trump |
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2020, 07:17:01 AM » |
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This is what Trump would have faced if he had sent in the military to stop the rioting. The other thing that is wrong is the classification of these men as Michigan Militia for a few reasons. In the video from this group they have the The Anarchist “Circle-A” Symbol behind where he is speaking. Antifa used this symbol for a number of months before switching to their Fascist flag symbol. This video and symbol is in Serks post above. The other thing by labeling them militia they put the whole militia movement which is usually patriots in a bad light so that any action done by a militia group or any assembling by militias can cause a trigger to the police or FBI. It also puts the movement in a bad light publicly. I dont know if this is purely a done for show but the incorrect label that was assigned to them like the riots being attributed to the white supremacists is a way to try to turn the attention away from the real perpetrators ANTIFA or at very least anarchists. Who are on a catch and release in Seattle and are actually being funded quite well. Very interesting that the Dems cities are the ones having a problem with this. The Real Meanings Behind Six Symbols of Protest https://elephant.art/the-real-meanings-behind-six-symbols-of-protest-01072020/It seems Gretchen Esther Whitmer has also been slapped by the courts in the striking down of her executive orders on Covid. I see this as she is making a stand on the freedoms of the people even making executive orders over the normal approval processes put in place by her state goverment. She is in effect a dictator today not responsible to the people who elected her. She is getting alot of PR out of this and trying to rally protections on her side. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 07:23:23 AM » |
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Gretch has been baiting Trump endlessly.
When COVID struck, she lashed out at Trump about lack of federal support - but she had not even bothered to apply for the FEMA relief. Eventually she applied, then got the relief. But she bitched at Trump before taking any action herself.
Last night, she went off again, that it was Trump's fault someone didn't like her. It's "her" state, she should take responsibility first. The reality is, Trump had already sent extra FBI because MI is considered a white hotbed. He saved her enormous ass, but she is pointing the finger at Washington and Trump, but never took accountability herself.
No wonder some folks want her gone. Not surprising considering her atrocious record in this state.
This story is big in MI, are y'all hearing about it much outside of MI? Getting much air play?
Well - it looks to be big on the national News. My take - while assasinating her is wrong, it past time to get her out legally (i.e. vote her out). Not knowing Michigan politics, I can't judge whether it is possible. |
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J.Mencalice
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2020, 08:16:21 AM » |
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Seeing as how this crew of militamen were acting as soldiers in consort to overthrow legitimized government(s), I believe that they should be stood up against a wall with paper targets pinned over their chests and each given a bullet to the heart. End of story for radicalized terrorists and seditious traitors on the anarchist, extreme right. Load their cadavers into helicopters and dump them into Lake Michigan.  |
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2020, 08:33:53 AM » |
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End of story for radicalized terrorists and seditious traitors on the anarchist,
extreme right.
You just brought up the real problem in labels since, As an anti-capitalist and libertarian socialist philosophy, anarchism is placed on the far-left of the political spectrum and much of its economics and legal philosophy reflect anti-authoritarian interpretations of left-wing politics such as communism, collectivism, syndicalism, mutualism, or participatory economics. This is a very far cry from the nationalism of the right and many militia groups. Most militia organizations envisage themselves as legally legitimate organizations authorized under constitutional and statute law, with reference to state and federal law of an "unorganized militia". Does anarchism have a government? It may also refer to a society or group of people that entirely rejects a set hierarchy. Anarchy was first used in 1539, meaning "an absence of government". ... It can also designate a nation or any inhabited place that has no system of government or central rule. Anarchism is really a synonym for socialism Order Out Of Chaos Or In Old Latin "Ordo Ab Chao" Hegel advocated the idea that men must create, manipulate and manage that conflict in order to create a pre-determined outcome – the controlled change, the synthesis. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2020, 08:52:39 AM » |
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I saw this yesterday. I was going to ask if you or Skinhead needed bail money.  |
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2020, 11:29:46 AM » |
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Seeing as how this crew of militamen were acting as soldiers in consort to overthrow legitimized government(s), I believe that they should be stood up against a wall with paper targets pinned over their chests and each given a bullet to the heart. End of story for radicalized terrorists and seditious traitors on the anarchist, extreme right. Load their cadavers into helicopters and dump them into Lake Michigan. Before or after the trial? |
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J.Mencalice
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2020, 12:50:38 PM » |
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Seeing as how this crew of militamen were acting as soldiers in consort to overthrow legitimized government(s), I believe that they should be stood up against a wall with paper targets pinned over their chests and each given a bullet to the heart. End of story for radicalized terrorists and seditious traitors on the anarchist, extreme right. Load their cadavers into helicopters and dump them into Lake Michigan. Before or after the trial? Give them the same "trial" that they had planned for the governor: Frontier Justice as a lethal dose of their own medicine. Show the country what the suspension of the rule of law actually looks like. The Wolverine Watchmen also were planning to attack a Michigan State Police Station and a highway with IED's. Domestic terrorists, simply said.  They advocated anarchic methods to sow the seeds of a civil war in unity with other groups of similar intent, i.e. the boogaloos.  |
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2020, 01:58:58 PM » |
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I saw this yesterday. I was going to ask if you or Skinhead needed bail money. I can't speak for Jig, but I can always use bail money. |
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2020, 04:57:29 PM » |
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Gretch has been baiting Trump endlessly.
When COVID struck, she lashed out at Trump about lack of federal support - but she had not even bothered to apply for the FEMA relief. Eventually she applied, then got the relief. But she bitched at Trump before taking any action herself.
Last night, she went off again, that it was Trump's fault someone didn't like her. It's "her" state, she should take responsibility first. The reality is, Trump had already sent extra FBI because MI is considered a white hotbed. He saved her enormous ass, but she is pointing the finger at Washington and Trump, but never took accountability herself.
No wonder some folks want her gone. Not surprising considering her atrocious record in this state.
This story is big in MI, are y'all hearing about it much outside of MI? Getting much air play?
I've been hearing about it here in Arizona. What I've heard is they weren't just some keyboard commandos. They trained and reconned for killing cops, and for kidnapping the governor. I don't follow Michigan politics much. I have no idea if she is a shitty governor. But, that's really beside the point. |
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2020, 06:18:59 AM » |
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Wow. Sorry, you can't tell if a governor is shitty, must be a personal problem if you cant take evidence at face value. Thank god I will need to trust you for safe food items, eh?
But it really is the entire point, your blind love to some unseen ideal is astounding. No one ever endorsed sedition. Some know rotten meat when they smell it. Others just smell.
It does explain a lot.
Bless your heart.
You have no worry. I don't chop up dead animals anymore. I'm sorry you took offense to my response to your question. You follow Arizona politics ? You have a judgement of all 50 governors ? I'm afraid I could only name maybe a third of them to begin with. I sure don't understand how you can think that what they were attempting is not serious. They didn't endorse sedition ? Ok. So, because they weren't trying to overthrow the government of Michigan, planning to kill police officers and kidnap the governor, is not serious ? Unseen ideals ? Blind love ? Maybe you are a master psychologist, and you know me better than I know myself. (I don't even have a heart) |
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2020, 07:35:34 AM » |
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You've gotta look at him through your MSM TDS glasses to see how he was Trump inspired: It does make those who jump to ill informed conclusions look dumber than a box of rocks.  |
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2020, 04:09:17 PM » |
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'White Supremacist' Narrative Unravels: Whitmer Kidnap Suspect Attended BLM Rally, Another Called Trump A 'Tyrant'
Again, there isn't a shred of evidence included in the FBI's criminal complaint, nor subsequent reporting, that the men adhered to a white supremacist ideology - a false narrative.
And so, it appears that the FBI busted an anarchist, anti-government militia which plotted violence against elected officials - yet hated both sides of the aisle.
"One of alleged plotters, 23-year-old Daniel Harris, attended a Black Lives Matter protest in June, telling the Oakland County Times he was upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence."
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Binkie
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2020, 06:25:17 AM » |
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I was just telling my wife I’m glad We don’t live up there any more....I probably would be in jail with the rest of the conspirators. She makes my skin crawl. I only care because my son and granddaughters are still there.
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