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« on: November 06, 2020, 04:42:35 AM »

https://www.westernjournal.com/election-program-issue-tallied-2-votes-gop-candidate-33-mi-counties-thought-using-software/

An apparent issue with the election infrastructure in one Michigan county resulted in a Republican candidate having a tally of only two votes Wednesday.

Now, it’s been revealed that the program at fault could be in use in dozens of other counties across the state.

The discrepancy was discovered Wednesday morning in Antrim County, according to Michigan’s Interlochen Public Radio.

Triston Cole, a Republican state legislator, cited the fact that Representative Jack Bergman received only two votes, according to county tabulations.

“I can guarantee that there were 6 [Bergman votes] in my immediate family alone,” Cole told IPR.

According to WPBN-TV, Guy said the vote totals on printed tabulator tapes and totals counted by the election software did not match. The printed tabulated tapes from each precinct will be counted manually as a result.

According to KXXV-TV anchor Joe Gumm, the Antrim County Clerk’s Office is now in the process of reviewing over 16,000 ballots cast in the county.

Even worse for the integrity of elections in Michigan, the program used to conduct voting in Antrim County is reportedly being used in 33 other counties across the state.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2020, 05:19:54 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine and have no reason to believe that it is not true.  Cobo Hall is in Detroit - Wayne County Michigan

Al, Sue and I just finished up 20 hours at Cobo hall – TCF center working as poll challengers for the absentee vote counting boards.   THE ENTIRE WAYNE COUNTY VOTE IS ALL CORRUPT FRAUD !    There were supposed to be 2 repubs and 2 dems at every counting board.  TCF had 134 boards present there and there were only 3 – yes three republicans seated on only three of the 134 boards.   This count should never have even been allowed to start.   Early in October we had the republican poll workers to be equally seated at every board – and then, we believe, Dugan ( Detroit Mayor) sent notices for the repub poll workers to not show up.   He had union workers (all dems – many BLM) who instead would be handling all the counting boards.   So, Sue and I were directed to work as repub poll challengers.

 

The poll workers were actually wearing BLM face masks early on – unbelievable.    Today – Wednesday- they let in non- credentialed agitators (BLM) unto the counting floor  to harass us and keep us from watching/verifying the counting.   Dems also flooded the place with lawyers – two followed me around half the day.   I got into several verbal shouting matches about my right to see the tallies and they did everything they could to stop me.  You won’t believe this – but a few of the poll workers actually stood up for me and told them I was only doing my job and for them to go away.   They were thugs – only there to intimidate and get you to leave.    This was not a transparent, honest, bipartisan event – the media is in bed with this scum.    With all the agitators filling the place – they used the fire marshall to stop us from bringing in other actual credentialed  repub challengers.            

 

Because of this covid situation– we were told we couldn’t get within 6 feet from any workers.   Try reading the ballot IDs, name and addresses to verify the voter from six feet away while these ballots are flying around the tables – FAT CHANCE !    We were not allowed to talk to the workers – and some complained if we even approached the tables.   Three days before the election the courts ruled we – as challengers – were allowed to come in as close as necessary to view and then retreat.   THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WENT !    We were threatened during the first 10 hours by the supervisors – then by the actual workers and agitators in the last hours.  

 

The actual tabulation machines had a 24 inch monitor – but the software running it used a small 5x5 inch section with absurd 10 point character fonts.   You couldn’t read the numbers from six inches away.  That  and the two workers usually completely blocked your view of the monitors anyway.   If you ask them for the counts – that was deemed interference – not allowed to talk to the workers.   If you approached to view the monitor and write down counts – that was violating their space and six foot distancing.   This is where plenty of the corruption entered.   The ballots were supposed to be in bundled in 50 ballot groupings and run through the tabulator.   If one jammed they were supposed to ZERO THE COUNT , pull all the ballots– and rerun the grouping.    That didn’t happen – instead they pulled the jammed ballot/ballots and just  kept going.    The counts of course were not 50 – some ballots were double counted and some – probably not at all.    If they didn’t clear the count – and reran the entire stack – those ballots were counted sometime twice or three times.   This was all happening at a fast clip across 25 high speed tabulating machines so even trying to write down particulars of any incident was ridiculous.    

 

The military ballots come in on different size ballots so they need to be duplicated onto the same ballots we use and then sent to be tabulated in the machines.   This is supposed to be done with a dem and republican overseeing the ballot transposition and both witnessing and agreeing done correctly.   The TCF process implementation wasn’t going to allow that to happen.  It was assumed the military ballots were predominantly for Trump/James.   The SOS says this was a bipartisan event – and that is nothing but a total lie and all BS.   The only way to right is cluster F#$% is to have a entire new vote for Wayne county and have the military/national guard do the counting in the presence of dems and repubs and lawyers.

 

Boxes of tens of thousands of ballots arrived at 3:00 AM this morning – with no tracking.   All ballots were to be accounted for at the 8:00 PM election close.  The count was issued as 60,000 processed by 4PM yesterday ( done from 10 am to 4 PM) – people went on break to grab dinner – and just like that – at 7:00PM the total processed  jumped to 128,000 – GO FIGURE – nothing to see here !!!!    We were there at 6 am election day and the counting didn’t even start until 10 am .  The big delay most likely to skew the returns so they would have time figuring out what they needed to come up.   In Wayne county people were able to register and vote yesterday – with no poll books to verify name /address/signature or even eligibility – lots of double voting happened.  

 

Hopefully Trump DOES NOT ACCCEPT these results and uses every means possible to nullify this crap.   There was nothing bipartisan about this – a total dem thug takeover of the ballots and election in Wayne county.   There was NO INTEGRITY – just a giant dem corrupt display of lawlessness.    Sicker still is our current repub majority legislature will want to just look the other way.   We got out of there as people from outside were knocking on the windows and screaming at the workers inside.   Several of the poll workers started talking trash at us as well – it was getting real ugly fast.    I figured this was useless and going to the courts to be determined – so we best get the hell out of there.   Huge police presence outside, road blocks all around the TCF center  and crowds gathering and shouting on all the street corners.  I wanted out before the violence broke out.    Pathetic……    Not a good experience – and I have no belief in this process.    It is intentionally set up to accommodate corruption – and most likely by whichever side is in power at the time.    

 

Not sure if you were aware – but if you just voted straight repub party – someone could intercept your ballot, fill in Biden and that Biden vote would be counted instead of your vote for Trump.  This is the  new Michigan law on handling this situation – how convenient.   We were sequestered during the election – no phones, cameras, electronics allowed on the counting floor – Why didn’t they outlaw BLACK PENS as well?   Any administrative notes could have all been done in RED ink and this potential ballot tampering ended.  

 

Trump won Michigan – and Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and Nevada, and probably Minnesota as well  - if the votes could be honestly made – one per eligible voter - and tabulated as voted.   The State governors, AGs and SOS have way too much power in running any elections and corrupt the entire system at every opportunity.   There just aren’t any consequences for this stuff and now – it seems accepted by the majority of voters.            
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2020, 05:33:47 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine and have reason to believe that it is not true.  Cobo Hall is in Detroit - Wayne County Michigan

          

If you think not true why post it?
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2020, 06:13:33 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine and have reason to believe that it is not true.  Cobo Hall is in Detroit - Wayne County Michigan

Al, Sue and I just finished up 20 hours at Cobo hall – TCF center working as poll challengers for the absentee vote counting boards.   THE ENTIRE WAYNE COUNTY VOTE IS ALL CORRUPT FRAUD !    There were supposed to be 2 repubs and 2 dems at every counting board.  TCF had 134 boards present there and there were only 3 – yes three republicans seated on only three of the 134 boards.   This count should never have even been allowed to start.   Early in October we had the republican poll workers to be equally seated at every board – and then, we believe, Dugan ( Detroit Mayor) sent notices for the repub poll workers to not show up.   He had union workers (all dems – many BLM) who instead would be handling all the counting boards.   So, Sue and I were directed to work as repub poll challengers.

 

The poll workers were actually wearing BLM face masks early on – unbelievable.    Today – Wednesday- they let in non- credentialed agitators (BLM) unto the counting floor  to harass us and keep us from watching/verifying the counting.   Dems also flooded the place with lawyers – two followed me around half the day.   I got into several verbal shouting matches about my right to see the tallies and they did everything they could to stop me.  You won’t believe this – but a few of the poll workers actually stood up for me and told them I was only doing my job and for them to go away.   They were thugs – only there to intimidate and get you to leave.    This was not a transparent, honest, bipartisan event – the media is in bed with this scum.    With all the agitators filling the place – they used the fire marshall to stop us from bringing in other actual credentialed  repub challengers.            

 

Because of this covid situation– we were told we couldn’t get within 6 feet from any workers.   Try reading the ballot IDs, name and addresses to verify the voter from six feet away while these ballots are flying around the tables – FAT CHANCE !    We were not allowed to talk to the workers – and some complained if we even approached the tables.   Three days before the election the courts ruled we – as challengers – were allowed to come in as close as necessary to view and then retreat.   THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WENT !    We were threatened during the first 10 hours by the supervisors – then by the actual workers and agitators in the last hours.  

 

The actual tabulation machines had a 24 inch monitor – but the software running it used a small 5x5 inch section with absurd 10 point character fonts.   You couldn’t read the numbers from six inches away.  That  and the two workers usually completely blocked your view of the monitors anyway.   If you ask them for the counts – that was deemed interference – not allowed to talk to the workers.   If you approached to view the monitor and write down counts – that was violating their space and six foot distancing.   This is where plenty of the corruption entered.   The ballots were supposed to be in bundled in 50 ballot groupings and run through the tabulator.   If one jammed they were supposed to ZERO THE COUNT , pull all the ballots– and rerun the grouping.    That didn’t happen – instead they pulled the jammed ballot/ballots and just  kept going.    The counts of course were not 50 – some ballots were double counted and some – probably not at all.    If they didn’t clear the count – and reran the entire stack – those ballots were counted sometime twice or three times.   This was all happening at a fast clip across 25 high speed tabulating machines so even trying to write down particulars of any incident was ridiculous.    

 

The military ballots come in on different size ballots so they need to be duplicated onto the same ballots we use and then sent to be tabulated in the machines.   This is supposed to be done with a dem and republican overseeing the ballot transposition and both witnessing and agreeing done correctly.   The TCF process implementation wasn’t going to allow that to happen.  It was assumed the military ballots were predominantly for Trump/James.   The SOS says this was a bipartisan event – and that is nothing but a total lie and all BS.   The only way to right is cluster F#$% is to have a entire new vote for Wayne county and have the military/national guard do the counting in the presence of dems and repubs and lawyers.

 

Boxes of tens of thousands of ballots arrived at 3:00 AM this morning – with no tracking.   All ballots were to be accounted for at the 8:00 PM election close.  The count was issued as 60,000 processed by 4PM yesterday ( done from 10 am to 4 PM) – people went on break to grab dinner – and just like that – at 7:00PM the total processed  jumped to 128,000 – GO FIGURE – nothing to see here !!!!    We were there at 6 am election day and the counting didn’t even start until 10 am .  The big delay most likely to skew the returns so they would have time figuring out what they needed to come up.   In Wayne county people were able to register and vote yesterday – with no poll books to verify name /address/signature or even eligibility – lots of double voting happened.  

 

Hopefully Trump DOES NOT ACCCEPT these results and uses every means possible to nullify this crap.   There was nothing bipartisan about this – a total dem thug takeover of the ballots and election in Wayne county.   There was NO INTEGRITY – just a giant dem corrupt display of lawlessness.    Sicker still is our current repub majority legislature will want to just look the other way.   We got out of there as people from outside were knocking on the windows and screaming at the workers inside.   Several of the poll workers started talking trash at us as well – it was getting real ugly fast.    I figured this was useless and going to the courts to be determined – so we best get the hell out of there.   Huge police presence outside, road blocks all around the TCF center  and crowds gathering and shouting on all the street corners.  I wanted out before the violence broke out.    Pathetic……    Not a good experience – and I have no belief in this process.    It is intentionally set up to accommodate corruption – and most likely by whichever side is in power at the time.    

 

Not sure if you were aware – but if you just voted straight repub party – someone could intercept your ballot, fill in Biden and that Biden vote would be counted instead of your vote for Trump.  This is the  new Michigan law on handling this situation – how convenient.   We were sequestered during the election – no phones, cameras, electronics allowed on the counting floor – Why didn’t they outlaw BLACK PENS as well?   Any administrative notes could have all been done in RED ink and this potential ballot tampering ended.  

 

Trump won Michigan – and Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and Nevada, and probably Minnesota as well  - if the votes could be honestly made – one per eligible voter - and tabulated as voted.   The State governors, AGs and SOS have way too much power in running any elections and corrupt the entire system at every opportunity.   There just aren’t any consequences for this stuff and now – it seems accepted by the majority of voters.            

very similar events and documented are going on in philadelphia pa, including ignoring court orders,  news coming out that pittsburgh is doing the same.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2020, 07:22:24 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine and have reason to believe that it is not true.  Cobo Hall is in Detroit - Wayne County Michigan

          

If you think not true why post it?

Good catch....left a word out.....I have NO reason to believe......
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2020, 07:29:10 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine and have reason to believe that it is not true.  Cobo Hall is in Detroit - Wayne County Michigan

          

If you think not true why post it?

Good catch....left a word out.....I have NO reason to believe......


Did you see the Cobo Hall poll worker on teevee news yesterday?
She described how awful the experience was with tears streaming down her face.
She was extremely upset because the witnesses were “white men!”

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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2020, 07:36:20 AM »

That's because you can't find a black republican in Detroit.......
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2020, 08:15:18 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine and have reason to believe that it is not true.  Cobo Hall is in Detroit - Wayne County Michigan

          

If you think not true why post it?

Good catch....left a word out.....I have NO reason to believe......


Did you see the Cobo Hall poll worker on teevee news yesterday?
She described how awful the experience was with tears streaming down her face.
She was extremely upset because the witnesses were “white men!”



That right there is a major part of why racism is still alive and well.
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