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Author Topic: Trust Washer in Rear Hub  (Read 2890 times)
Jruby38
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« on: November 24, 2020, 12:20:22 PM »

Any advantage or disadvantage to using two trust washers in the hub?
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Avanti
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 12:36:22 PM »

Only if the rear hub was damaged at some point and machined at which time a spacer or a thicker thrust washer as a spacer would be needed. Otherwise all clearances are destroyed.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 01:33:28 PM »

I took the rear end out and the splines look good, but I dont see any thrust washer. I know I replaced it the last tire change. Can they disintegrate.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 01:44:07 PM »

I took the rear end out and the splines look good, but I dont see any thrust washer. I know I replaced it the last tire change. Can they disintegrate.

Anything is POSSIBLE, but it’s probably just stuck covered in grease. Use a pick to see.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2020, 01:49:50 PM »

Any advantage or disadvantage to using two trust washers in the hub?

It’s a thrust washer. And why would you use two?
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2020, 01:51:12 PM »

I took the rear end out and the splines look good, but I dont see any thrust washer. I know I replaced it the last tire change. Can they disintegrate.

Anything is POSSIBLE, but it’s probably just stuck covered in grease. Use a pick of some king.

Look inside the flange
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Jruby38
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2020, 04:17:27 PM »

Mine disappeared. I'm going to try two this time .  They are thin, only 40 thousands.  They are cheep and two might give extra protection.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2020, 04:39:59 PM »

Mine disappeared. I'm going to try two this time .  They are thin, only 40 thousands.  They are cheep and two might give extra protection.

They don’t disappear and one does the job
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2020, 05:30:43 PM »

Mine disappeared. I'm going to try two this time .  They are thin, only 40 thousands.  They are cheep and two might give extra protection.
Asking for trouble are you?
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2020, 07:01:40 PM »

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Mine disappeared. I'm going to try two this time .  They are thin, only 40 thousands.  They are cheep and two might give extra protection.     

Or extra destruction. In the machine shop business, 40 thousand is about 10 miles.

Use one.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2020, 06:56:31 AM »

How many miles since you had it apart last time. If more than a couple of thousand you probably had it in there. If they stick to the wheel on disassembly, they can be knocked off. I bought a couple of new thrust washers a couple of years ago. They measured a little than the old one. I reused the old one.
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2020, 06:53:51 PM »

I got 12k since apart last.  Maybe I forgot to put a new one in last time, I remember changing O rings.
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2020, 07:25:11 PM »

I got 12k since apart last.  Maybe I forgot to put a new one in last time, I remember changing O rings.

If you did 12,000 without the thrust washer, your wheel would be ruined by now.
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2020, 07:57:49 PM »

I got 12k since apart last.  Maybe I forgot to put a new one in last time, I remember changing O rings.
I'd put money that it's stuck in the flange with grease.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2020, 07:06:13 AM »

That $6.00 Thrust Washer (can't believe it costs that much) is one of the most important parts in your Valkyrie.
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2020, 08:49:23 AM »

This summer I got really scary sounding clunking sound from rear wheel. I could hear it when pushing the bike slowly or rotating rear wheel when off the ground. Sound was like something spring loaded was finding it's place.

I found the reason and it was having 2 of those washers instead of one. I guess the mechanic who changed the tire previous time didn't see the original washer under the grease and just added one.
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2020, 10:30:20 AM »

That $6.00 Thrust Washer (can't believe it costs that much) is one of the most important parts in your Valkyrie.

Make one from a milk jug?  Cheesy
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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2020, 11:33:37 AM »

Im not sure what the flange piece is? The thrust washer goes into the drive on the side where the studs come out and go into the wheel dampers correct?
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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2020, 12:16:57 PM »

Im not sure what the flange piece is? The thrust washer goes into the drive on the side where the studs come out and go into the wheel dampers correct?

The flange is the black thing with the five studs sticking out. Look inside it
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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2020, 03:10:59 PM »

That $6.00 Thrust Washer (can't believe it costs that much) is one of the most important parts in your Valkyrie.

Make one from a milk jug?  Cheesy

I have a guitar pick made from the engineering plastic "vespel" that cost $35.

I don't know what the indestructible thrust washer is made of, but I bet it ain't a
milk jug  Wink ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespel

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=engineering+plastic

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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2020, 04:15:56 PM »

The trust washer in the rear hub?

She was definitely not buying that line.  Grin

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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2020, 11:48:28 PM »

Im not sure what the flange piece is? The thrust washer goes into the drive on the side where the studs come out and go into the wheel dampers correct?

The thrust washer sits between the 5-star driven flange and the bearing hub which protects the mating surfaces (red x's).

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Jruby38
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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2020, 06:24:28 AM »

Thanks Ron W.  Your picture was great.  I must of forget the thrush washer last time because its not in there.
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« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2020, 07:17:49 AM »

Thanks Ron W.  Your picture was great.  I must of forget the thrush washer last time because its not in there.

 Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2020, 07:26:32 AM »

If you don't remove the driven flange from the rear wheel it's impossible to lose the washer. The reason that I mention that is that people will wonder endlessly if the washer didn't fall on the floor while they had the rear wheel off the bike. That's mainly why I posted the pics. Er, the washer is sandwiched safely between the 5-star driven flange and the rear wheel bearing hub. If you pulled the driven flange from the rear wheel then it's another story, the washer can go awol.

Glad you found the washer wasn't there sooner than later.
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« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2020, 12:04:15 PM »

I got 12k since apart last.  Maybe I forgot to put a new one in last time, I remember changing O rings.

If you did 12,000 without the thrust washer, your wheel would be ruined by now.
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2020, 12:20:19 PM »

Yeas Ron W. The flange stayed in the diff.  when I pulled the rear wheel.
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2020, 12:26:09 PM »

Yeas Ron W. The flange stayed in the diff.  when I pulled the rear wheel.

I’ve done many many rear wheels. There’s usually one of two reasons for the flange to stick in the final drive while removing the wheel. Either the drive dampeners are worn so the pins don’t grip or the grease is dried up in the drive and the flange is stuck.
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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2020, 10:59:31 AM »

WOO HOO. Found it stuck to the wheel hub. I couldn't see it because all the black moly grease.
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2020, 02:55:38 PM »

If it was not in there you would be the first one not to destroy a wheel with it missing!
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