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98valk
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« on: November 24, 2020, 05:12:19 PM »

enjoy higher prices and taxes for everything in your life.   

https://climate21.org/

to deliver actionable advice for a rapid-start, whole-of-government climate response coordinated by the White House and accountable to the President.

The memos below contain the Climate 21 Project’s recommendations for 11 White House offices, federal departments, and federal agencies, as well as cross-cutting recommendations on personnel and hiring.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-begins-an-unprecedented-push-to-reverse-climate-change-141008704.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 05:29:51 PM »

Quote from article

"A “climate 21” plan sponsored by the Nicholas Institute for Environmental Policy at Duke University contains detailed recommendations for government reforms to help slash carbon emissions that are the main cause of global warming."

Its all about "CONTROL"

First, no credible scientific body has ever said climate change threatens the collapse of civilization much less the extinction of the human species. “‘Our children are going to die in the next 10 to 20 years.’ What’s the scientific basis for these claims?” BBC’s Andrew Neil asked a visibly uncomfortable XR spokesperson last month.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/11/25/why-everything-they-say-about-climate-change-is-wrong/?emci=488a4dfb-a70f-ea11-828b-2818784d6d68&emdi=0ff2cdd7-a80f-ea11-828b-2818784d6d68&ceid=8049322&fbclid=IwAR3c3P87ASGsr8luZZOqzCTynsSxFlYgYMEw2RgZMDOtB8CvpZ8xfcImnVU&sh=eae0d8112d6a

More than 11,000 experts sign an emergency declaration warning that energy, food and reproduction must change immediately

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-05/scientists-call-for-population-control-in-mass-climate-alarm



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98valk
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 05:40:24 PM »

this book "The Greening" documents how and when the climate agenda started.  Iron Mountain think tank in 1960s

it can be read here. researched in the '80s published early '90s. I have the book since it first was on the shelf. received his financial news letter back then.

https://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/greening.shtml

Chapter 1 - The Greening is Born

Over the next 15 years, the federal budget for environmentally related expenditures will replace and surpass defense spending in both size and economic impact. I use 15 years only as an arbitrary number, electing to be overly conservative. In all probability, it will take far less time than that for this dramatic change in priorities to occur.

In the process of this "greening of the world," incredible sums of money are going to be spent, whole new industries will emerge, and vast new fortunes will be made. In the last chapter of this report I will reveal the Number One Insider-favored investment in all of this, the investment that in the '90s will be what gold was in the '70s.

As I've written numerous times over the years, unless we are able to cut through illusions and false perceptions, thus grasping reality, we will fail to understand world events and the threats to our freedoms.

The Special Study Group then goes on to show how war, or the threat of war, is very "positive" from government's perspective because it allows for major expenditures, national solidarity, and a "stable internal political structure." They state, "Without it [war], no government has ever been able to obtain acquiescence in its 'legitimacy,' or right to rule its society." They further state, "Obviously, if the war system were to be discarded, new political machinery would be needed at once to serve this vital sub-function. Until it is developed, the continuance of the war system must be assured, if for no other reason, among others, than to preserve whatever quality and degree of poverty a society requires as an incentive, as well as to maintain the stability of its internal organization of power."

Substitutes for the Functions of War," Doe, writing for the Special Study Group, goes on to outline the economic necessities which must be applied:

    "Economic surrogates for war must meet two principal criteria. They must be 'wasteful,' in the common sense of the word, and they must operate outside the normal supply-demand system. A corollary that should be obvious is that the magnitude of the waste must be sufficient to meet the needs of a particular society. An economy as advanced and complex as our own requires the planned average destruction of not less than 10% of gross national product..."

After exploring a whole range of "substitute" possibilities, such as a war on poverty, space research, even "the credibility of an out-of- our-world invasion threat," the Special Study Group reports and Doe recites." It may be, for instance, that gross pollution of the environment can eventually replace the possibility of mass destruction by nuclear weapons as the principal apparent threat to the survival of the species. Poisoning of the air, and of the principal sources of food and water supply, is already well advanced, and at first glance would seem promising in this respect; it constitutes a threat that can be dealt with only through social organization and political power. But from present indications it will be a generation to a generation- and-a-half before environmental pollution, however severe, will be sufficiently menacing, on a global scale, to offer a possible basis for a solution."

I hope you didn't skim over the preceding paragraph. It explains, with almost unbelievable boldness, that environmental concerns were an almost perfect replacement for war, but it would take a generation or a generation-and-a-half (that is, 20 to 30 years) to bring this about. Remember, we are talking about a report circa 1967.

The time frame is now complete, as evidenced by an article in the March 20, 1990, Seattle Post-Intelligencer. The front-page headline says, "Pollution a 'ticking time bomb,' conference warned." Datelined Vancouver, B.C., the lead paragraph read, "Environmental destruction is a 'ticking time bomb' that poses a 'more absolute' threat to human survival than nuclear annihilation during the Cold War, former Norwegian Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland told an international environment conference here."

The article goes on, "The conference, Globe '90, was launched yesterday amid warnings that pollution and overpopulation are threats that require resources previously committed to the arms race."
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 06:32:27 PM »

What I love about these "man made climate change people" (I sometimes call them environmentalist wackos but that's not nice) is they say we need to reduce (actually eliminate) man-made carbon production. 

That means the elimination of the use of fossil fuels for:

1. Cars
2. Trucks
3. Ships
4. Trains
5. Motorcycle
6. Tractors
7. Boats
8. Production of Electricity
 
Ok you get it.   

So, every car must be battery powered or nuclear, as does every truck, train, bus, cab, bike....

Every ship at sea needs to be powered by a battery or nuclear.  Think about that, EVERY SHIP!!!!!!!!!

Next, no more gas stations.  Think about all those jobs that will be lost.  No more stopping on the road to gas up and get a snack. 

Travel distances will be limited. 

Next, where will all this electricity come from????? Wind, Solar (NOT A CHANCE, see link below).  So the only choice left is nuclear. 

You think the "climate change" people are going to let us build a bunch of nuclear power plants?????

Really?????????

Nope.... Its all about one thing and one thing only "CONTROL".  I control the energy, I control you and your kids and your family and your living standards. I control where you go, when you go, how you go.  I control how big your family is.  (Think CHI COMS).

Oh......  for those Biden supporters out there I have a question for you.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO SELL YOUR MOTORCYCLE???

Obviously you don't need to pollute the atmosphere for fun with your motorcycle.   Oh, and don't tell me you have an electric car because I will ask you where you charge it and we all know the answer to that one. 

The Myth of Powering the Nation With Renewable Energy

http://www.roadmaptonowhere.com/?fbclid=IwAR2sMccupieAnk5AI9f8tz5MkRmKtTllW0sQzHzJuiewfgPknbgBwcNHURI
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98valk
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2020, 06:44:24 PM »

What I love about these "man made climate change people" (I sometimes call them environmentalist wackos but that's not nice) is they say we need to reduce (actually eliminate) man-made carbon production. 

That means the elimination of the use of fossil fuels for:

1. Cars
2. Trucks
3. Ships
4. Trains
5. Motorcycle
6. Tractors
7. Boats
8. Production of Electricity
 
Ok you get it.   

So, every car must be battery powered or nuclear, as does every truck, train, bus, cab, bike....

Every ship at sea needs to be powered by a battery or nuclear.  Think about that, EVERY SHIP!!!!!!!!!

Next, no more gas stations.  Think about all those jobs that will be lost.  No more stopping on the road to gas up and get a snack. 

Travel distances will be limited. 

Next, where will all this electricity come from????? Wind, Solar (NOT A CHANCE, see link below).  So the only choice left is nuclear. 

You think the "climate change" people are going to let us build a bunch of nuclear power plants?????

Really?????????

Nope.... Its all about one thing and one thing only "CONTROL".  I control the energy, I control you and your kids and your family and your living standards. I control where you go, when you go, how you go.  I control how big your family is.  (Think CHI COMS).

Oh......  for those Biden supporters out there I have a question for you.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO SELL YOUR MOTORCYCLE???

Obviously you don't need to pollute the atmosphere for fun with your motorcycle.   Oh, and don't tell me you have an electric car because I will ask you where you charge it and we all know the answer to that one. 

The Myth of Powering the Nation With Renewable Energy

http://www.roadmaptonowhere.com/?fbclid=IwAR2sMccupieAnk5AI9f8tz5MkRmKtTllW0sQzHzJuiewfgPknbgBwcNHURI




https://innovativewealth.com/inflation-monitor/what-products-made-from-petroleum-outside-of-gasoline/

144 Products Made From Petroleum And 4 That May Shock You
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2020, 06:49:48 PM »

Lets look at all the big name supporters for the notion of man-made climate change (AKA Carbon)

Al Gore:   I know his big house is not on the grid and is completely powered by solar and wind, right????

Barrack Obama:  I know his big house is not on the grid and is totally powered by solar and wind right????

Now for the everyday guy who supports the notion of man-made climate change.  How many of these "supporters" and "believers" drive an electric car, have their homes powered with solar and wind, off the gird, and work for a company that has the same standards?  That is the money they make is not tainted by carbon.

I mean if you are a believer in man-made climate change and you are not doing your part, you can hardly expect anyone believe you are sincere.  
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2020, 05:37:58 AM »

I think gore owns 4 homes and just one in Tennessee or Kentucky [ I don't care where he lives] costs $42K/yr for utilities. Yep, he's doing his part.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2020, 08:35:26 AM »

Lets look at all the big name supporters for the notion of man-made climate change (AKA Carbon)

Al Gore:   I know his big house is not on the grid and is completely powered by solar and wind, right????

Barrack Obama:  I know his big house is not on the grid and is totally powered by solar and wind right????




Houses applies to both of them.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 10:41:38 AM »

This is what infuriates me so much. 

Our "betters" wish for us to bend, submit, use less, and they, our "betters" keep on doing what they are doing.  After all they are doing the right thing, saving the world.  And for that they deserve special perks that we, the fine Americans, don't deserve. 

Yet they are socialists and don't socialists believe we are all entitled to the same thing, goods, services, rewards???? 

Nope, the leaders are special and deserve more because without them we would just be drifting away from the "path".  Leaders are to be rewarded.  Look at any socialist or communist country and look at the wealth of the leaders.......

And those that look up to them, support them, defend them are no better. 

I am making a list, just because I can. 

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98valk
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2020, 11:18:03 AM »

This is what infuriates me so much. 

Our "betters" wish for us to bend, submit, use less, and they, our "betters" keep on doing what they are doing.  After all they are doing the right thing, saving the world.  And for that they deserve special perks that we, the fine Americans, don't deserve. 

Yet they are socialists and don't socialists believe we are all entitled to the same thing, goods, services, rewards???? 

Nope, the leaders are special and deserve more because without them we would just be drifting away from the "path".  Leaders are to be rewarded.  Look at any socialist or communist country and look at the wealth of the leaders.......

And those that look up to them, support them, defend them are no better. 

I am making a list, just because I can. 



history my friend, aristocrats and the surfs.  the founding father knew this all too well.  this is why the aristocrats made up the dept of education and slowly stopped teaching all history.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2020, 09:35:16 PM »

They ALL own big, and then scam so they don't have to pay all the taxes.

Remember John Kerry, the ex-Sec'y of State and now a cabinet member of Biden's?  Remember he registered a yacht in another state to avoid the high taxes in the state he lived in?

How about Bruce Springsteen?  He's got a big mouth lately.  He put two alpacas on his property so he could call it a farm for tax purposes.

And then there was that democrat congressman from NY who knocked out walls in rent controlled buildings to make duplexes for himself.

And now, to put this reply more on topic, We're ALL gonna be paying more in taxes as Biden promised to get us back into the Paris climate nonsense which was and now again will be nothing more than redistribution of American wealth out of the country.
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