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Toovalks
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« on: November 26, 2020, 09:46:41 AM »

Just so you all know... some one , probably Willow, has decided that he is the arbiter of free speech on this site removing my two posts from late last night because I didn't pay proper homage to his commander and chief.... so you really all think that the "right" is censored... I told no lies, no "fake" news
just didn't  use the proper title for the "man" in the oval office. 
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Patrick
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2020, 09:51:00 AM »

I guess we'll never know.
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Psychotic Bovine
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2020, 10:02:35 AM »

Just so you all know... some one , probably Willow, has decided that he is the arbiter of free speech on this site removing my two posts from late last night because I didn't pay proper homage to his commander and chief.... so you really all think that the "right" is censored... I told no lies, no "fake" news
just didn't  use the proper title for the "man" in the oval office. 

I have found that Willow is very fair.  Ive had posts pulled, you don't see me crying about it.
Suck it up, buttercup.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2020, 10:03:41 AM »

Freedom of speech as we refer to it is guaranteed within the confines of the government.  That is to say that the government will pass no laws to limit one's freedom of speech.

Complete freedom of speech is not dictated to one's privilege upon a privately held message board or other means of communication.  Likewise it does not give one the right to come into someone else's property and say whatever or however one wishes.

The Rules of the Road do their best to articulate what will and will not be allowed on this board.  More than once the Rules refer respectful communication.  It is my job to interpret and administer according to the Rules of the Road.  I have stated before that I see disrespectful reference to a public figure supported by a significant number of members of this board to be disrespectful communication.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2020, 12:06:00 PM »

And....the term is "Commander in Chief"....not "Commander and Chief."  cooldude
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f6gal
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2020, 12:52:34 PM »

Just so you all know... some one , probably Willow, has decided that he is the arbiter of free speech on this site removing my two posts from late last night because I didn't pay proper homage to his commander and chief.... so you really all think that the "right" is censored... I told no lies, no "fake" news
just didn't  use the proper title for the "man" in the oval office. 

First Amendment: Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, Assembly, and Petition
Passed by Congress September 25, 1789. Ratified December 15, 1791.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

"The Constitution’s right to free speech applies only when the government — not a private entity — is trying to restrict it."  See #5 at https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2017/03/6-exceptions-to-freedom-of-speech/

Censorship on this site has nothing to do with right or left.  As I've said before, the right is often censored more harshly here than the left (an overreaction to possible bias).  But you don't see what's been removed, so check your outrage. 
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G-Man
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2020, 01:08:27 PM »

Freedom of speech as we refer to it is guaranteed within the confines of the government.  That is to say that the government will pass no laws to limit one's freedom of speech.

Complete freedom of speech is not dictated to one's privilege upon a privately held message board or other means of communication.  Likewise it does not give one the right to come into someone else's property and say whatever or however one wishes.

The Rules of the Road do their best to articulate what will and will not be allowed on this board.  More than once the Rules refer respectful communication.  It is my job to interpret and administer according to the Rules of the Road.  I have stated before that I see disrespectful reference to a public figure supported by a significant number of members of this board to be disrespectful communication.

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board! 

 coolsmiley

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f6gal
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2020, 02:01:52 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board! 

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God. 

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G-Man
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2020, 02:17:30 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board! 

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God. 


And a standing ovulation goes to the extinguished gentlewoman in charge on this perspiring occasion!


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John Schmidt
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2020, 02:40:00 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board! 

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God. 


And a standing ovulation goes to the extinguished gentlewoman in charge on this perspiring occasion!

Darn near covered the keyboard with my drink when that one hit me.  2funny
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Gavin_Sons
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2020, 02:47:29 PM »

Just so you all know... some one , probably Willow, has decided that he is the arbiter of free speech on this site removing my two posts from late last night because I didn't pay proper homage to his commander and chief.... so you really all think that the "right" is censored... I told no lies, no "fake" news
just didn't  use the proper title for the "man" in the oval office. 

It's funny you think you have rights on a privately owned forum.
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f6gal
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2020, 04:01:16 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board! 

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God. 


And a standing ovulation goes to the extinguished gentlewoman in charge on this perspiring occasion!


Bawhahaha!  Now that's funny right thar! 
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f6gal
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2020, 04:08:23 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board!  

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God.  


And a standing ovulation goes to the extinguished gentlewoman in charge on this perspiring occasion!

P.S.  From the category of TMI... I haven't had an ovulation, standing or otherwise, in quite a few years.
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2020, 04:08:44 PM »

Just so you all know... some one , probably Willow, has decided that he is the arbiter of free speech on this site removing my two posts from late last night because I didn't pay proper homage to his commander and chief.... so you really all think that the "right" is censored... I told no lies, no "fake" news
just didn't  use the proper title for the "man" in the oval office. 

It's funny you think you have rights on a privately owned forum.
Grin
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Willow
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2020, 04:22:14 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board!  

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God.  


And a standing ovulation goes to the extinguished gentlewoman in charge on this perspiring occasion!

P.S.  From the category of TMI... I haven't had an ovulation, standing or otherwise, in quite a few years.

It's okay.  That was G-man's impression of a drunken toast.   Smiley
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The emperor has no clothes
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« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2020, 07:47:35 PM »

When I'm elected, I vow to pack the administrators of this board!  

 coolsmiley

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the VRCC Rules of the Road against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of this position; so help me God.  


And a standing ovulation goes to the extinguished gentlewoman in charge on this perspiring occasion!

P.S.  From the category of TMI... I haven't had an ovulation, standing or otherwise, in quite a few years.
Grin
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Serk
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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2020, 07:50:39 PM »

P.S.  From the category of TMI... I haven't had an ovulation, standing or otherwise, in quite a few years.

Something else we have in common!

Neither have I!
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