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« on: December 26, 2009, 10:11:32 AM »

Where, if any, can I get fuel cells for road trippin? I did good last year but got to close for comfort for a gas station. I did have a 1/2 gal jug full. I know where all my fuell stops are now but not sure from Alzada MT to Billings. Want to be prepared.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2009, 10:16:14 AM »

http://www.basegear.com/primusbottle.html

Theres one have a few friends that have those need 2 or 3 of them but a few people make them..
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2009, 12:01:42 PM »

I carry two of the 1.5 liter Primus bottles.  But you might want to check on these too:
http://www.rmworksinc.com/
http://www.coyote-gear.com/
I had another link to an aluminum tank but can't seem to find it now.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2009, 12:21:48 PM »

I carry two of the 1.5 liter Primus bottles.  But you might want to check on these too:
http://www.rmworksinc.com/
http://www.coyote-gear.com/
I had another link to an aluminum tank but can't seem to find it now.


Thx but you won't see me put a belly tank on. Sorry. It would still cause me to push my luck and just another add on to go bad.

Primus huh? Hmmm..... your the second to say them.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2009, 05:15:33 AM »

I have been thinking about trying 2 liter pop bottles.  I know they will take the pressure but not certain if the fuel will melt the plastic.  I have intended to do a test by putting gasoline in a plastic 2 liter bottle and storing it in the garage for a few months to see what happens.  If it works it will be a readily available cheap solution to the problem.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2009, 08:11:01 AM »

I have been thinking about trying 2 liter pop bottles.  I know they will take the pressure but not certain if the fuel will melt the plastic.  I have intended to do a test by putting gasoline in a plastic 2 liter bottle and storing it in the garage for a few months to see what happens.  If it works it will be a readily available cheap solution to the problem.

Last year I used a liter bootle of saline I got at work. It was thicker then a pop bottle. After a few days it became 'soft' and you could smell the gas. Ended up wrapping it in a bag but still stunk. A 2 L would be to big to store.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2009, 09:43:19 AM »

Nalgene used to make some plastic fuel bottles, maybe still do.  I have a one liter Nalgene fuel bottle that has had white gas in it for about 10 years.  They might still be available.  http://www.outdoorzy.com/gear/review.cfm/reviewid-17
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2009, 11:40:52 AM »

The plastic bottles you want is Polypropylene, suitable for solvents. You can probably find them under lab supplies. Those bottles are rugged.

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 01:08:54 PM »

I have four of these in the 20 Oz size.
I found mine on sale from Campmore or one of the other camping sales places.  If you are not in a hurry, they go on sale fairly frequently.  The ½ liter ones are easier to catch on sale than the full liter ones.
http://www.brunton.com/product.php?id=55
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 05:35:01 PM »

What's wrong with just strapping on a one gallon plastic gas can ??

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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2009, 06:01:55 PM »

I'm just guessing, but I'd think spillage and portability would against the plastic gas can. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 06:12:36 PM »

I guess I could but location would be hard to find. I already have stuff strapped to the lids and the reciever rack will be full. No room on the luggage rack unless I hung it off of it. I was hoping for something small that could be easily packed.

While running on fumes and searching for a station in Iowa this year, we ran into a guy from VT on a HD. He had 2 weeks worth of clothes and camp gear on his bike and had a 2 1/2 gal can hanging off the saddle bag. Not to mention 5 pounds of beads and a huge camera around his neck!  crazy2
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 07:13:58 PM »

I'm just guessing, but I'd think spillage and portability would against the plastic gas can. 
I'd be more worried with spillage from a plastic water bottle than a plastic gas can .... and how far can you go on a quart of gas ??  Rule #1 when traveling out West is to stop at EVERY town that has a gas station cause the next town might be 50 miles away and MIGHT have a gas station.  With a gallon you know you have a good 25-35 miles and a gallon gas can is not that big (think of a milk jug).

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2009, 02:35:40 PM »

I'm just guessing, but I'd think spillage and portability would against the plastic gas can.  
I'd be more worried with spillage from a plastic water bottle than a plastic gas can .... and how far can you go on a quart of gas ??  Rule #1 when traveling out West is to stop at EVERY town that has a gas station cause the next town might be 50 miles away and MIGHT have a gas station.  With a gallon you know you have a good 25-35 miles and a gallon gas can is not that big (think of a milk jug).



It was a 1000 cc jug and it sealed well that it did not drip but let fumes out. I figure any gas would be good. If I can save a few miles of Kit pushing the better.  laugh
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 08:57:43 AM »

On a trip from Colorado to Prudoe Bay and much of Canada, I used MSR fuel bottles. 10,000 miles and no sign of leaks. They hold 30 oz. A pain to fill at the pump, just have to be careful and don't try to fill them to the very top.

If you slow to 55 or so, two of these should get you 15 to 20 miles extra. They are available at places like Dick's sporting goods, REI, and hunting supply stores
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2010, 09:14:28 AM »

I forgot to mention that trip was done on a KLR 650. Prudoe Bay on a Valk is certainly doable, but I would not want subject my Valk to that much torture.
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2010, 10:36:50 AM »

Here's a link to the 1.5 liter Primus fuel bottles.  http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/accessdetail.cfm?PRODUCTS__ProductID=PRM2540&code=GF11
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 03:58:28 PM »

I just read about a way to carry gas cans that I had never heard of.
It is called a "peg packer". It was first made for adventure touring bikes like the GS,KLR and VSTROM.

I don't see why it would not work on a Valk.
 Basically it is a bracket that bolts in place of your passenger pegs. If you ride solo on long trips as I do it seem worth thinking about. What do you think?

I don't know how to post a link. but go to www.bestrestproducts.com
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 06:54:15 PM »

What's wrong with just strapping on a one gallon plastic gas can ??



That might be doable. Might could even be painted with some of the new "plastic" or "all surfaces" paint/coatings.

One thing's or sure... Anything is going to seem pretty doggone good, as opposed to being stranded in the middle of nowhere...
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 07:43:39 PM »

I just read about a way to carry gas cans that I had never heard of.
It is called a "peg packer". It was first made for adventure touring bikes like the GS,KLR and VSTROM.

I don't see why it would not work on a Valk.
 Basically it is a bracket that bolts in place of your passenger pegs. If you ride solo on long trips as I do it seem worth thinking about. What do you think?

I don't know how to post a link. but go to www.bestrestproducts.com

I haven't rode solo since Aug 06. Never give up my saddle partner. Longest i rode solo is a 100 miles since then.
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