House Passes 5593 Page Stimulus Bill Without Anyone Having Read It

[Robert]

$505,925,000 of our taxpayer dollars is being spent on LATIN AMERICA AND THE CARIBBEAN. Why? #VetoTheBill

$132,025,000 for the country of Georgia. Why?

$453,000,000 in aid to Ukraine.

$33 mil to the communists in Venezuela.

$500,000,000 for Israel.

The Covid relief bill lays the groundwork for a “Climate Security Advisory Council”

$10 million for “gender programs” in Pakistan

“the Horseracing Integrity and Safety Act of 2020”

The Covid relief bill includes funds for a museum that will offer “programming, education, exhibitions” on … “the life, art, history, and culture of women”

The Covid relief bill includes $1.5 million for the Appropriations Committee’s “Office of Diversity and Inclusion” as well as lots of money for receptions

The Covid relief bill lays the groundwork for a “Climate Security Advisory Council”

The gov't closes the economy. You lose your job. You face eviction.

$600 for all your troubles.

Meanwhile they send:

$135 million to Burma
$85.5 million to Cambodia
$1.4 billion for "Asia Reassurance Initiative Act"
$130 million to Nepal

Coronavirus Package Allows Feds to Import More Foreign Workers as 17.8M Americans are Jobless

The swamp stopped President Trump from delivering a big win to the American people. They gave the win to foreigners and special interests and lobbyists instead.

https://rules.house.gov/sites/democrats.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-116HR133SA-RCP-116-68.pdf

[Serk]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. This boondoggle is a disgrace and must be veto'ed; it's embarrassing it was voted on positively at all!

[FLAVALK]

Another porkulous bullshit bill. Lots of foreign aid to countries who hate our guts

[Serk]

Hmmm, now this is an idea I might could get behind.....

[Jess from VA]

     VETO

[Patrick]

C'mon man ! We know you have to pass it then we can read it.

I think this can all be blamed on pelosi and schumer. Should have had a good bill long ago.

[Savago]

McConnell made the bill pass, after all, he is afraid of loosing his grip of the Senate due to the Georgia runoff election.

Interestingly enough, he didn't work so hard a few months before, when a rescue bill could have helped 45th's reelection campaign.

[Rams]

Did hell just freeze over?

AOC, Rand Paul and I are all in agreement....  

Rams

[old2soon]

         And this bull kaka surprises any of us HOW?  Maybe I need to claim citizenship in another country!  politicians proving yet again they could care less about GOD Fearin AMERICANS. Vote the worthless scum OUT! NOW!  RIDE SAFE.

[Romeo]

Until the people of this once great nation descend on DC en masse and inhabit the capital building until congress passes a bill mandating a line item veto, we will continue to be disappointed by the people we elect. Until we the people decide this is more important than our short term comfort, that our children’s and our grand children’ s future is what is a truly stake, this robbery of our treasure will continue. This is no less than a call to arms to impose the will of the people on those who are elected to serve us.

[Jess from VA]

At least one TX congressman gets it.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep-chip-roy-gop-serves-omnibus-passes

"Genuine question - what purpose does the @GOP serve?" he asked. "Other than a voice (but not consistently) for the pro-life, and a voice of opposition generally to Dems... what good is it?  Massive spending? Open borders? Endless wars? Federal healthcare/education?" he tweeted.

... he railed against both the bill and the legislative process behind it in a blistering statement -- calling it "legislative malpractice."  It represents everything wrong with Washington and epitomizes the very swamp that the president supposedly ran against.

Yes, it does, in spades. 

[Jersey mike]

And just how many pages was Obama Care which had to be passed before we knew what was in it?

If memory serves correctly, something like 33,000 pages, maybe more.

[Davemn]

I thought Trump promised to clean all this up. I guess 4 years wasn’t enough. Asking for a friend.

[Serk]

I thought Trump promised to clean all this up. I guess 4 years wasn’t enough. Asking for a friend.

[Serk]

BREAKING NEWS: PRESIDENT TRUMP SENDS RELIEF BILL BACK TO CONGRESS, REFUSING TO SIGN UNLESS IT REMOVES WASTEFUL SPENDING AND INCREASES RELIEF CHECKS FROM $600 TO $2,000 PER PERSON

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1341537886315950080?fbclid=IwAR0TybrMzMryelRNUHGNdfoAckr_kUClfrKhhqEDsIar8Wm9MSHFMBjczJw

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/22/trump-calls-covid-relief-bill-unsuitable-and-demands-congress-add-higher-stimulus-payments.html?fbclid=IwAR01-FfFiLjSxhWmGPAOOmgIOEOoOc3M_ZVSlY1SQKeMIrMEYCjd5X-bWzg

[Jess from VA]

BREAKING NEWS: PRESIDENT TRUMP SENDS RELIEF BILL BACK TO CONGRESS, REFUSING TO SIGN UNLESS IT REMOVES WASTEFUL SPENDING AND INCREASES RELIEF CHECKS FROM $600 TO $2,000 PER PERSON

Which (again) begs the question.... how can you not love this man?    

That's a rhetorical question BTW.     

[Rams]

Until then people of this once great nation descend on DC en masse and inhabit the capital building until congress passes a bill mandating a line item veto, we will continue to be disappointed by the people we elect. Until we the people decide this is more important than our short term comfort, that our children’s and our grand children’ s future is what is a truly stake, this robbery of our treasure will continue. This is no less than a call to arms to impose the will of the people on those who are elected to serve us.

There have been times I thought a line item veto would have or should have been allowed but, I'm more comfortable with a requirement for a balanced budget with the exception of time of war budgets.

If, they have to maintain a balanced budget, some of this crap would never get included.

Rams

[The emperor has no clothes]

I thought Trump promised to clean all this up. I guess 4 years wasn’t enough. Asking for a friend.

Do you make side money trolling for Soros? You contribute nothing but negativity, I still want to know what Joe Cheeto is gonna do for you?..

Mr. Conservative, please tell me why J. Cheeto is your man, asking for myself.

If you can think enough to troll, surely you can think of one thing? At least Baldo is entertaining, I don't mind sparring with him

baldo is entertaining. Even more so when you get a couple beers in him. 

[Oss]

Why in the name of sanity would congress pass a bill that gives illegals 3 times more money than citizens and that NONE OF THEM HAVE READ?   This is worse than Obamacare.

The bill should be a few pages ONLY


If you cant say what you want to do in a relief bill in a few pages, it is full of lies, theft and graft

You can quote me on that   Needs a hard veto and those including the republicans who passed it are now exposed for who and what they are

[Serk]

If you cant say what you want to do in a relief bill in a few pages, it is full of lies, theft and graft

You can quote me on that   Needs a hard veto and those including the republicans who passed it are now exposed for who and what they are

Rand Paul is the best senator we've had in a century....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_arlD8vus

[Robert]

I agree with Oss on this, Most members of Congress have become totally ineffective and in fact work as agents against the best interests of the US as a whole. IF anyone else had been in the presidency I doubt we would have had a veto of this bill.

Even the fact that these items are in the bill and no one read it is indication of the true bent and failure of Congress to do their job and keep people safe healthy and promote policies that are good for Americans.


On top of all the handouts to foreign governments and other waste of taxpayer money, a provision in the 5,593 page bill allows the Department of Homeland Security and Labor Department to “increase the total number of aliens” hired under H-2B foreign visas.

I guess since most did not stand up against the election results whoever penned this bill feels very comfortable in proposing anything they wish for or lost over the last 4 years.

To me it seems to be a restoration of the policies that were in place in the last administration and a direction that will be taken in the event of an election loss.

[Romeo]

Why in the name of sanity would congress pass a bill that gives illegals 3 times more money than citizens and that NONE OF THEM HAVE READ?   This is worse than Obamacare.

The bill should be a few pages ONLY


If you cant say what you want to do in a relief bill in a few pages, it is full of lies, theft and graft

You can quote me on that   Needs a hard veto and those including the republicans who passed it are now exposed for who and what they are

correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this bill actually the omnibus spending bill, with the emergency covid relief tacked on? Not that makes it any more valid. Adding the emergency stimulus to the omnibus bill is really just a trick that congress pulls to push the rest of the pork through.

[scooperhsd]

Why in the name of sanity would congress pass a bill that gives illegals 3 times more money than citizens and that NONE OF THEM HAVE READ?   This is worse than Obamacare.

The bill should be a few pages ONLY


If you cant say what you want to do in a relief bill in a few pages, it is full of lies, theft and graft

You can quote me on that   Needs a hard veto and those including the republicans who passed it are now exposed for who and what they are

correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this bill actually the omnibus spending bill, with the emergency covid relief tacked on? Not that makes it any more valid. Adding the emergency stimulus to the omnibus bill is really just a trick that congress pulls to push the rest of the pork through.

Even if it is - there is nothing so pressing that Congress can't take a day or 2 so members can READ what they are voting for.

We really need a Line Item Veto for the President.

[Rams]

Why in the name of sanity would congress pass a bill that gives illegals 3 times more money than citizens and that NONE OF THEM HAVE READ?   This is worse than Obamacare.

The bill should be a few pages ONLY


If you cant say what you want to do in a relief bill in a few pages, it is full of lies, theft and graft

You can quote me on that   Needs a hard veto and those including the republicans who passed it are now exposed for who and what they are

correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this bill actually the omnibus spending bill, with the emergency covid relief tacked on? Not that makes it any more valid. Adding the emergency stimulus to the omnibus bill is really just a trick that congress pulls to push the rest of the pork through.

Even if it is - there is nothing so pressing that Congress can't take a day or 2 so members can READ what they are voting for.

We really need a Line Item Veto for the President.

Line Item Veto works great, as long as it's your guy in office.   

Rams

[Jess from VA]

Why in the name of sanity would congress pass a bill that gives illegals 3 times more money than citizens and that NONE OF THEM HAVE READ?   This is worse than Obamacare.

The bill should be a few pages ONLY


If you cant say what you want to do in a relief bill in a few pages, it is full of lies, theft and graft

You can quote me on that   Needs a hard veto and those including the republicans who passed it are now exposed for who and what they are

correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this bill actually the omnibus spending bill, with the emergency covid relief tacked on? Not that makes it any more valid. Adding the emergency stimulus to the omnibus bill is really just a trick that congress pulls to push the rest of the pork through.

Yes sir Romeo, a legislative trick that is old as Methuselah, and just as ugly.  

And I would also guess that the majority of Republicans that voted for it (without reading it, but with high paid professional staffs that told them what was in it) because they were afraid that if they voted against it, they would be summarily defeated in the next general election because it would be said they had no compassion for the people in their districts who would not get the free money in the covid relief part of the bill.  And with additional obvious cowardice in that they assumed the president would help them out by vetoing it anyway, taking that heat off their shoulders, onto his.  Which is essentially what has happened.

And, I think it fair to give mainstream media a major assist in such decisions, since they can be depended upon (like clockwork) to take the hard left position that such politicians were heartless bastards who didn't care a bit about their constituency in need of the free money, and that media is cost-free highly effective advocacy for the left, that republicans can only counter with very expensive personal campaigning.  

So I suppose that getting reelected (again) becomes the primary motivation of the majority of all those in public service, and NOT the welfare and common good of the People and the Country.

It is a very old and very tired aspect of our democratic republic that makes a benevolent dictatorship look more appealing all the time.

Washington, July 21. — The most stunning figure in the 1,171-page federal budget is the cost of keeping a congressman in Washington — $275,000 a year.

Ten years ago, it was less than half that sum.

Overall, Congressional costs since 1953 have risen six times as fast as the rest of the federal budget-from $60,849,479 a decade ago to $147,594,000 for the 1963 fiscal year.

(from 2017) A quick look suggests that total legislative branch appropriations for FY14 is about $4.1 billion. This includes House and Senate member and staff salaries and benefits, Capitol Complex maintenance, staff and security (including the U.S. Capitol Police), the Library of Congress, the GAO, the CBO, the Government Printing Office. This comes to $7,476,635 each we taxpayers lay out for every member of Congress.  Are they worth that kind of money?

[MAD6Gun]

I thought Trump promised to clean all this up. I guess 4 years wasn’t enough. Asking for a friend.

 Yeah sure blame Trump for voters not doing their part to drain the swamp. He couldn't do it by himself. What he did do is make us aware of how deep the corruption goes. Unfortunately all he got for his trouble was constant investigations with no evidence. If he does in fact veto this new worthless stimulus package for more money for us, that should prove to even the biggest TDS sufferer that he does in fact care about the American people.

[Bret SD]

I thought Trump promised to clean all this up. I guess 4 years wasn’t enough. Asking for a friend.

Do you make side money trolling for Soros? You contribute nothing but negativity, I still want to know what Joe Cheeto is gonna do for you?..

Mr. Conservative, please tell me why J. Cheeto is your man, asking for myself.

If you can think enough to troll, surely you can think of one thing? At least Baldo is entertaining, I don't mind sparring with him

baldo is entertaining. Even more so when you get a couple beers in him. 

Yes, Baldo says what's on his mind and backs it up (kinda  ) , I respect that, though I may disagree with him, same for you Rob.. I'm sure we'd laugh it up in a meet.. 

I'm not here to fight with people, being around here near 2 years now I'm getting to know people more and more. I do run hot regarding the steal and really don't want our country turned into some socio-communist dystopia.
That doesn't mean I hate those who disagree with me (you're just misguided haha), so long as we're talking all is good. None of us have any power to change a damn thing, including each other's minds.

I ride a Valkyrie, and so do most here, that is our bond.

Merry Christmas