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f6john
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« on: January 16, 2021, 06:51:12 PM »

From this,


To this,


To this,


To this,



To this



Still a couple low spots,





Getting closer,





In the last two pics all the tile is cut and fitted but not mortared in. That was done today but will still need to be grouted. Grandsons coming tomorrow to spend the night and Monday with us. So grouting will wait. Then on to laying the hardwood to the now leveled dining room floor. At that point every square inch of flooring will have been replaced on the main floor. My knees will be so happy to move on to something else!





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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2021, 06:59:56 PM »

Excellent work John!

Looking really good, that kind of work just plain sucks, I'm sure you'll be happy when it's all in the rear view.  cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2021, 07:02:40 PM »

Looks good  cooldude
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f6john
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2021, 07:08:27 PM »

Excellent work John!

Looking really good, that kind of work just plain sucks, I'm sure you'll be happy when it's all in the rear view.  cooldude

Looks good  cooldude


Thanks guys, only way I’m going to be doing any riding this year is to get this stuff knocked out.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2021, 07:19:44 PM »

I'm wore out just looking.

Also impressed and amazed.  cooldude

Thanks for sharing.

One time I was working on a pitched roof in progress, I stepped backwards and fell though the rafters, but caught myself by the arms pits.  It left marks and hurt for a while (besides the shame). 
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2021, 08:21:25 PM »

I don’t do roofs anymore, never did many, but the pitch of most roofs anymore, including mine, are too steep for me.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2021, 03:57:34 AM »

Roofing, flooring, any crawling around on your knees sucks.  I don't know how carpet/flooring installers can do it for a living.  Nice work BTW.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2021, 05:48:16 AM »

Roofing, flooring, any crawling around on your knees sucks.  I don't know how carpet/flooring installers can do it for a living.  Nice work BTW.

That’s why I enjoyed the remodeling business. I had to learn a lot of different trades that I could utilize without having to depend on subs. If I thought I had to go to work everyday and roof, just shoot me now.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2021, 06:06:08 AM »

Looks like you know what you are doing. If you paid a contractor you probably would have been left with a crooked floor  Huh?
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2021, 06:42:41 AM »

Looks like you know what you are doing. If you paid a contractor you probably would have been left with a crooked floor  Huh?

I agonized over this floor issue for over a year. It would have been much better if I had tackled it first thing, but I kept thinking I need to figure out why the floor was uneven and that would tell me how to rectify the problem. Nothing made sense to me so I finally had to start tearing things out. In the final analysis it was a series of stupid mistakes by the framing crew miscalculating the level of the front poured concrete foundation, the steel I beam running the  full length of the house and the framed back wall of the walk out basement, along with floor joist not being properly crowned, no extra joist under load bearing walls, ect.

No way could I have afforded to pay a contractor for all the work I have put into this house which I knew going in, just not the extent of what would have to be done.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2021, 07:16:22 AM »

Looks solid cooldude

Plenty of room between those beams for storage of....
Did you remember the trap door?
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2021, 08:30:34 AM »

Hmm.  Good place to hide your AR15's from the upcoming ATF confiscaters.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2021, 08:39:06 AM »

Looks solid cooldude

Plenty of room between those beams for storage of....
Did you remember the trap door?

No trap door, budget cuts due to upcoming economic implosion.
Hmm.  Good place to hide your AR15's from the upcoming ATF confiscaters.

The design of this house offers multiple opportunities for that. cooldude
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2021, 08:53:29 AM »

         I've roofed. Should you fall off the roof the ground WILL stop yer fall!  Roll Eyes I've also helped on flooring. Plumbing electrical concrete work also familiar with How a shovel works.  2funny And B T W-looks good what ya did!  cooldude Actually cursed difficult to git along without the building trades these days.  coolsmiley RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2021, 09:36:23 AM »

Looks like you know what you are doing. If you paid a contractor you probably would have been left with a crooked floor  Huh?

I agonized over this floor issue for over a year. It would have been much better if I had tackled it first thing, but I kept thinking I need to figure out why the floor was uneven and that would tell me how to rectify the problem. Nothing made sense to me so I finally had to start tearing things out. In the final analysis it was a series of stupid mistakes by the framing crew miscalculating the level of the front poured concrete foundation, the steel I beam running the  full length of the house and the framed back wall of the walk out basement, along with floor joist not being properly crowned, no extra joist under load bearing walls, ect.

No way could I have afforded to pay a contractor for all the work I have put into this house which I knew going in, just not the extent of what would have to be done.
Unfortunately, what ChrisjCMA said is more correct  than I certainly would wish. I've spent 35 years in the tile/stone business as a manufacturer and commercial installation consultant, as well as heading up our national industry inspection program. There's a lot of good installers still out there, but they're starting to become a dying breed, as with real tradesmen in many of the tradional trades in other parts of the construction industry. A great many contractors would have left out some of the important steps you did here on floor  prep, making it difficult to get that beautiful tile layout to work properly. Looks great  cooldude
Did you manage to figure out your elevations for matching the hardwood up to the tile feature?
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2021, 09:58:03 AM »

Looks like you know what you are doing. If you paid a contractor you probably would have been left with a crooked floor  Huh?

I agonized over this floor issue for over a year. It would have been much better if I had tackled it first thing, but I kept thinking I need to figure out why the floor was uneven and that would tell me how to rectify the problem. Nothing made sense to me so I finally had to start tearing things out. In the final analysis it was a series of stupid mistakes by the framing crew miscalculating the level of the front poured concrete foundation, the steel I beam running the  full length of the house and the framed back wall of the walk out basement, along with floor joist not being properly crowned, no extra joist under load bearing walls, ect.

No way could I have afforded to pay a contractor for all the work I have put into this house which I knew going in, just not the extent of what would have to be done.
Unfortunately, what ChrisjCMA said is more correct  than I certainly would wish. I've spent 35 years in the tile/stone business as a manufacturer and commercial installation consultant, as well as heading up our national industry inspection program. There's good installers out there, but they're a dying breed, as with real tradesmen in many of the tradional trades in other parts of the construction industry. A great many contractors would have left out some of the important steps you did here on floor  prep, making it difficult to get that beautiful tile layout to work properly. Looks great  cooldude
Did you manage to figure out your elevations for matching the hardwood up to the tile feature?

My hardwood will end up being 1/4-3/8 “ below the tile level which is not ideal but believe it or not this will not be a high traffic area so as to be a trip hazard. I have a similar situation at both entrances to the kitchen which have been finished for months with no issues.

This is a doorway I just finished last week, between the hallway and utility room. The utility room tile was laid a year ago, the hardwood this past week.


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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2021, 10:15:59 AM »

Looks like you know what you are doing. If you paid a contractor you probably would have been left with a crooked floor  Huh?

I agonized over this floor issue for over a year. It would have been much better if I had tackled it first thing, but I kept thinking I need to figure out why the floor was uneven and that would tell me how to rectify the problem. Nothing made sense to me so I finally had to start tearing things out. In the final analysis it was a series of stupid mistakes by the framing crew miscalculating the level of the front poured concrete foundation, the steel I beam running the  full length of the house and the framed back wall of the walk out basement, along with floor joist not being properly crowned, no extra joist under load bearing walls, ect.

No way could I have afforded to pay a contractor for all the work I have put into this house which I knew going in, just not the extent of what would have to be done.
Unfortunately, what ChrisjCMA said is more correct  than I certainly would wish. I've spent 35 years in the tile/stone business as a manufacturer and commercial installation consultant, as well as heading up our national industry inspection program. There's good installers out there, but they're a dying breed, as with real tradesmen in many of the tradional trades in other parts of the construction industry. A great many contractors would have left out some of the important steps you did here on floor  prep, making it difficult to get that beautiful tile layout to work properly. Looks great  cooldude
Did you manage to figure out your elevations for matching the hardwood up to the tile feature?

My hardwood will end up being 1/4-3/8 “ below the tile level which is not ideal but believe it or not this will not be a high traffic area so as to be a trip hazard. I have a similar situation at both entrances to the kitchen which have been finished for months with no issues.

This is a doorway I just finished last week, between the hallway and utility room. The utility room tile was laid a year ago, the hardwood this past week.



There are also metal edge transition profiles which will handle that difference, but if it's not a concern to you then you're all good. Did you ever check out that vinyl transition underlay to help ease the hardwood up to the tile surface level for your entry? Either way, looks great... I'm enjoying following your project thread. Wish some of the contractors I deal with on jobs were as studious as you cooldude
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2021, 11:26:11 AM »

Doesn’t the tile edge stand a big chance of getting chipped without a transition ?
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2021, 11:31:14 AM »

Doesn’t the tile edge stand a big chance of getting chipped without a transition ?
Has a metal edge profile on there.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2021, 11:34:02 AM »

Doesn’t the tile edge stand a big chance of getting chipped without a transition ?
Has a metal edge profile on there.
ah....didn’t see that  cooldude
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2021, 02:16:46 PM »

I didn’t pursue the vinyl transition although I’m sure it could work magic for problem areas. My floors are far from perfect due to high and low joists ect. but it’s already a major improvement over how it started. The entire house was carpeted when I bought it (except for kitchen and baths) and it was hiding a lot of faults.
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