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« on: January 22, 2021, 06:47:55 PM »

Just saw an ad on CL for a Tourer that has the above as an accessory.  Claims it boosts coil output for more power (18% claimed) and faster acceleration.  Went to their website but didn't really give much useful info.  Anybody know about this or have experience?

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2021, 06:08:41 AM »

Just saw an ad on CL for a Tourer that has the above as an accessory.  Claims it boosts coil output for more power (18% claimed) and faster acceleration.  Went to their website but didn't really give much useful info.  Anybody know about this or have experience?

Thanks

Just my two cents.  The OEM coils do a fine job for the design.  I'm usually skeptical of general claims of improvement in engine performance with addons like this.  I'm not a racing expert, but from my research and experience, simple fixes to the ignition/spark system usually don't meet the claims of the manufacturers.  Racing ignition systems are well designed from tip-tip in order to achieve the benefits needed for the particular engine. This kinda reminds me of the 60's commercial "Keds will make you run faster!"

Just my view, but hopefully some more experienced/informed folks will provide their insights.

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2021, 09:01:49 AM »

I agree with Jersey. There have been many such devices promising miracle improvements over the years. If they were so confidant their device works, they may provide a little more detail than 'trust us, it does' on their web site.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2021, 05:40:39 PM »

The only way to know for sure is to dyno it. I looked at the web site for the PC30. You would need one for each coil at 0ver $80 each. I'm not sure that $250 would get you much horsepower. The Valk runs pretty well with a good tune up. The dollars to horsepower ratio after that can get pretty high. If you are thinking about buying the bike, maybe you could dyno it and let us all know. I might be pleasantly surprised and run out an get me a few of them.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2021, 07:20:55 PM »

looks like it installs as a parallel circuit to the existing wiring... what kind of magic are they using to increase coil output??
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 05:18:38 AM »

run away from nologic products, except their actual coils received good ratings some yrs ago.

OTHER DEVICES CLAIMING TO INCREASE SPARKS:

Never be fooled by any device that is fitted between the ignition coil and the distributor, and/or distributor and the spark plugs (sometimes in place of ignition wires) for which claims of increased power, multiple sparks, and better fuel economy are made. These devices have come and gone over the last 50 years, and usually consists of a sealed container in which the spark is forced to jump an additional gap or is partially induced to ground on its way to the spark plug gap. These devices can also be cleverly demonstrated to produce sparks the human eye perceives as being "more powerful." The only "increase" a gullible consumer can expect from these devices is an undesirable increase in load on their vehicle's ignition system.

"CAPACITOR" EFFECT WIRES with grounded metal braiding over jacket

The most notable of exaggerated claims for ignition wires are made by Nology, a manufacturer of ignition wires promoted as "the only spark plug wires with built-in capacitor." Nology's "HotWires" consist of unsuppressed solid metal or spiral conductor ignition wires over which braided metal sleeves are partially fitted. The braided metal sleeves are grounded via straps formed from part of the braiding. Insulating covers are fitted over the braided metal sleeves. These wires are well constructed. For whatever reason, Nology specifies that non-resistor spark plugs need to be used with their "HotWires." In a demonstration, the use of resistor plugs with "HotWires" will nullify the visual effect of the brighter spark.

Ignition wires with grounded braided metal sleeves over the cable have come and gone all over the world for (at least) the last 40 years, and similar wires were used over 20 years ago by a few car makers to solve cross-firing problems on early fuel injected engines and RFI problems on fiberglass bodied cars — only to find other problems were created. The Circle Track Magazine (USA, May, 1996 issue) test showed Nology "HotWires" produced no additional horsepower (the test actually showed a 10 horsepower decrease when compared to stock carbon conductor wires).
https://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm

want more spark install,  it is all about reducing the number of inherent misfires in a standard ignition system.  Reason I use plugs with a reduced center electrode. Presently using Champion Spark Plugs 8812.  champion is owned by federal mogul now.
 
I did this at one time. I noticed slightly quicker acceleration.
Almost a direct replacement. They are the MP10 OEM coils from a CBR1100XX (blackbird), ST1300, 2000 sabre and all 2001 and newer 1100 shadows. The VTX uses this coil on the forward cylinder and uses the same numbered coil (MP10) for the rear coil but carries a different part number and is green in color. All others are black. They will be identified with MP10 on the coil, the Valkyrie's are MP8.
This coil reads 2.4 ohms @ 60 degrees F whereas the stock Valkyrie coils read 2.9 ohms. This is a 0.5 ohm difference which will provide higher voltage to the plug. The stock Valkyrie coils are also used on the ST1100, CBR900RR, CB919, GW1500 and the older shadows.
The MP10s are larger. Installation of the side coil is a direct replacement. The two under the tank will require longer bolts and the forward coil's bolt holes must be moved 1/2 inch forward by making an adapter bracket.


Don't use the CBR1100XX coils if u are using a dyna ignition, they will burn it up in two yrs even though dyna says the ohm rating is compatible.
I am back to the stock coils with the dyna unit.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2021, 06:07:32 AM »

My blown bobber "George" pictured below needed a Dyna3000 to eliminate a nasty hesitation on the torque curve.  Also the spark was too weak, very hard to start.  All the electric measurements were in spec except spark was nearly invisible.  I installed VTX coils and problem gone.  I hope the coils don't fry the Dyna.  If it does I have a spare Dyna then I'll have to address the compatibility issue if it exists.  This is a show and "boulevard" bike that doesn't get road miles - maybe it will last longer as a result.  I wouldn't have put hotter coils in it if it didn't need them.  Certainly wouldn't due to an unverified claim of magical performance from a product seller.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2021, 12:25:06 PM »

I can't see that these things will do anything to give a stronger spark.  I think that they could be tested with an adjustable gap tester (as used to test spark on an HEI system) to compare what air gap a stock coil will bridge compared to having these installed.

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