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Author Topic: Darkside tire choices  (Read 2888 times)
lilgeo
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« on: March 10, 2021, 01:51:27 PM »

Hi everyone,

I am probably making this decision out of frustration and anger... frustration that I picked up a nail in a brand new Dunlop Elite 4 rear tire with about 300 miles on it.. and anger that it will cost over $400 to replace!

So I think I want to put a car tire on my 2000 Interstate.  I looked all over the forums and I haven't found any information on 2021 model tires.  Which means that most of the tires people are talking about are out of production.

So my question is, can you recommend a good car tire?  I like the look of the Laufenn G FIT AS and the GT Radial Champiro Touring A/S.  The Yokohama AVID ENVigor is still around but discount tire says it is no longer made. It has been replaced by the AVID Touring S.  Is there a better choice?

Also, is 205/60 the best choice for height/width?  Or would a 195/60 fit better.  I see the Austone was a 175.  I'm so confused!!!

Thank you for your input!

George
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2021, 02:35:21 PM »

(Besides researching 1000 posts on here) the FL (sub)board is a good sized group and some certainly run car tires, and I'd hook up with some of their rides and meetups and look at theirs and talk to them.

The 205 60 is probably the most commonly used (and closest to OE size and height), but some like the smaller tires 175 - 185s.  And or taller 65s.  Or shorter Summer Sport radials at 55 (which wear faster and may not be great in real cold weather).

Nut cages, and rounded edges.  And metal valve stems.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2021, 02:50:36 PM »

I have run several different brands over the years. These are what I have on two of my Valkyries now. I like them a lot so far (about 10,000 miles).
https://www.bestusedtires.com/shop?sizeAll=205%2F65R16#/filter:brand:Pirelli
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cheeseman1969
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2021, 07:58:16 PM »

I run darkside and I am in the market for a tire too. I belong to a group on FB called ROLL'N DARKSIDE (Car Tires on Motorcycles). Great groups to get info and you just have to find the right size. I found out that a 205/60R16 is just a hair to big even with the mod under the fender. So going wiht a 195/60R16.
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TrapperAH1G
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2021, 11:22:07 PM »

2000 Standard - Vredestan Comtrec 185/75R16  $135.00 deliverd.  1998 Shadow Ace Tourer VT1100T - Zeetex CT1000 175/75R16.   $135.00 delivered.  I really like both these tires, can't tell much if any difference between them.  Good tread pattern, rounded shoulders, great grip.  Running Shinko's on the front.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2021, 07:41:23 AM »

All four of my Valks are double dark sided.

The bobber has some brand I don't even remember, but it's more for looks than handling.

The other 3 all have hankook optimo 195/60/16.

Apparently I like those. Smiley

They handle well.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2021, 09:53:16 AM »

Champiro VP1
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turtle254
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2021, 01:14:47 PM »

CrossClimate+ i Michelin
The very best !
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2021, 02:29:48 PM »

CrossClimate+ i Michelin
The very best !
That’s a bad ass looking tire ! The CrossClimate2 comes in a 205/65 and looks almost the same. How is it in rain ?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=CrossClimate2&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=065HR6CC2&tab=Sizes
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2021, 02:56:47 PM »

FWIW, the Zeetex is on sale at Simple Tire right now for $87.97. I don't need one right now, but I'm tempted anyway.  https://simpletire.com/brands/zeetex-tires/ct1000#v=1&tireSize=lt195-65r16&mpn=1200032174
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turtle254
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2021, 03:21:19 PM »

CrossClimate+ i Michelin
The very best !
That’s a bad ass looking tire ! The CrossClimate2 comes in a 205/65 and looks almost the same. How is it in rain ?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=CrossClimate2&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=065HR6CC2&tab=Sizes
The two is too square, plus is the one. Great in the rain , and dry. 
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2021, 04:24:20 PM »

CrossClimate+ i Michelin
The very best !
That’s a bad ass looking tire ! The CrossClimate2 comes in a 205/65 and looks almost the same. How is it in rain ?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=CrossClimate2&sidewall=Blackwall&partnum=065HR6CC2&tab=Sizes
The two is too square, plus is the one. Great in the rain , and dry. 
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lilgeo
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2021, 08:03:49 AM »

Thanks everyone for your advice.  I agree that the Michelin is a good looking tire.  And, since I have Michelin tires on both of my vehicles I will probably lean towards that tire.

Jess is right though, I should look at some of the bikes of the other Florida riders and talk to them. I've already reached out to SixLow and gotten his input.

Cheers!

George
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pais
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2021, 03:14:19 PM »

CrossClimate+ i Michelin
The very best !

Turtle, what size are you running?
I saw this tire before. I do like the look but wasn't sure of its characteristics. I don't ride aggressively anymore so I am more concerned with smooth and comfortable.
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turtle254
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2021, 04:25:51 PM »

CrossClimate+ i Michelin
The very best !

Turtle, what size are you running?
I saw this tire before. I do like the look but wasn't sure of its characteristics. I don't ride aggressively anymore so I am more concerned with smooth and comfortable.
205/60 16"
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h13man
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2021, 07:15:33 AM »

I'd use a string plug and repair your new tire and ride. NEVER had any failure with this repair on any MC or auto tires. It took 3 of them on our Toy Sienna tire and never leaked.
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Led
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2021, 10:05:43 AM »

I'd use a string plug and repair your new tire and ride. NEVER had any failure with this repair on any MC or auto tires. It took 3 of them on our Toy Sienna tire and never leaked.

I would NEVER trust a "rope plug" patch job on a Bike.  Maybe in an emergency,  but never long term.
If I were to patch it, it would be one of those rubber "mushroom" headed ones, that you pull out from the inside, and then cut flush with the tread.  But then you need to dismount the tire.   May as well replace the tire then, if one is to go to all that work!   Wink
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2021, 12:03:26 PM »

I have a perfect record with string plugs (no failures and no leaks, on bikes) (not that many but a few).  

I believe they are better than mushroom plugs... if properly installed.  Also, in good tread.
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Valker
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2021, 12:36:25 PM »

I have a perfect record with string plugs (no failures and no leaks, on bikes) (not that many but a few).  

I believe they are better than mushroom plugs... if properly installed.

This has been my experience also.
Good video on plugs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm6fTWaj3QE
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