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« on: March 31, 2021, 01:30:41 PM » |
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I bought a Honda oem carb rebuild kit. I have rebuilt the carbs and have rode the bike, but I have a leak on one of the bowls. I have taking it all back apart and tried to get it to seal back up, but not having luck. I was thinking I would buy a different o ring set. What would you guys recommend?
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 03:13:47 PM » |
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I can't relate to OEM ones being the problem, but this Red Eye guy has highly thought of Valkyrie carburetor stuff... https://redeye.ecrater.com/-Mike |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2021, 04:58:07 PM » |
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Bowels=the human poop chute Bowls=part of the carb that holds gas.  Where exactly is it leaking? Is it where the bowl attaches to the carb body or somewhere else? The bowls themselves aren't sealed with an o-ring where they attach to the body. It has a gasket that goes completely around the top of the bowl and sits in a built-in "trough" which if not totally cleaned, it's possible it could leak. |
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Twofeather
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2021, 10:08:13 AM » |
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When I first rebuilt the carbs I had a leak in #6 and #5 carb bowl. Took them back off the bike and readjusted the o-rings and got them to stop leaking. I finally got the bike started and everything was good. Now I've got a leak on #3 carb bowl. I've taking it off 3 times and still can not get it to stop leaking. So now I'm thinking maybe I should try a different o-ring manufacturer. I have seen on here talk about the redeye kit, I'm just not sure which way to go.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2021, 03:45:17 PM » |
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I’m having the same problems, the gaskets I bout were all bunched up and I tried to flatten them out but they still leak so I ordered a set from red eye and there made out of a softer rubber and he recommended to use rubber glue to put them back on its 3M - 847 rubber gasket adhesive
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Twofeather
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 10:59:05 AM » |
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Jpd, I was looking into that red eye kit, but then I couldn't find it any more. I got to reading on here and found out that if red eye doesn't have it in stock you won't see it on line. With that being said I got tired of waiting. So I went ahead and tour it apart once again and I found there was a very small amount of the old o-ring still on the bowl. After cleaning it real good I put it back together and had no more leaks.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 02:39:13 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2021, 09:17:22 AM » |
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One or two of my bowls were a little questionable on the flatness and o-ring squeeze, too; (they could stand a little more squeeze).
I took those bowls to my belt sander, and flattened the surface real lightly... I might have even just hand sanded it with the sander turned off, just using it as a big flat, bench mounted sanding block. They seal real good now.
Another thing that works if you have a pinhole in one of the bowls is to solder it shut. Just be careful not to get it much hotter than the melting point of the solder. I did that once on a dirt bike carb, and it worked, still does.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2021, 11:40:30 AM » |
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But now that I think about it, that float bowl was zinc, I do believe. Ours are probably aluminum... so, unless you have aluminum soldering materials at hand, maybe just use that sealing compound mentioned above
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Twofeather
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2021, 07:37:00 AM » |
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I have never heard of soldering a carb bowl on before. I guess I would if I was desperate and had no other choice, But only if I could not fix the leak any other way. I think I got lucky and was able to get it to stop leaking. I check it regularly and it seems to be holding for now. I've got about 500 miles on the rebuild so I think I'm good. Thanks for the advice. Ride safe
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2021, 09:50:01 AM » |
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No- you don't solder the bowl on, I'm saying you can solder up a hole in the bottom of the bowl (for sure if it's zinc), then you just attach the bowl to the carb in the normal way.
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2021, 11:17:25 AM » |
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Honda makes a carb rebuild kit? I could not find one anywhere. In fact, my local dealer said they sell the All Balls rebuild kit...
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2021, 11:21:09 AM » |
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Honda makes a carb rebuild kit? I could not find one anywhere. In fact, my local dealer said they sell the All Balls rebuild kit...
The red eye kit is probably better. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2021, 08:16:48 AM » |
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Jpd, I was looking into that red eye kit, but then I couldn't find it any more. I got to reading on here and found out that if red eye doesn't have it in stock you won't see it on line. With that being said I got tired of waiting. So I went ahead and tour it apart once again and I found there was a very small amount of the old o-ring still on the bowl. After cleaning it real good I put it back together and had no more leaks.
Yea when I did mine I spent quite a while with a small machinist's pick making sure all the old gasket material/glue/Schmutz was out of the grooves. I also used a tad of RTV to hold the gasket in place until I got the bowl on. |
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Twofeather
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2021, 04:51:18 AM » |
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I ended up using a little bit of high temp wheel bearing grease to hold the gaskets on. I was real careful not to get any grease on the inside of the bowl. I don't think it would have mattered but I just didn't want to take a chance of it causing any other problems.
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