COVID and Me ...

[Bigwolf]

Well it is all becoming a little clearer.  I now know a lot more about COVID-19 than I did a week ago.  And now I have a pretty good idea of where and when and how I caught it.

The only known contact I have had exposure to happened after I returned home from Hattiesburg.  This is a confirmed case and I have confirmed as to how that person caught it. 

As for the disease itself, it is quickly born into the blood where it sets about thickening and blood clots.  Lots of blood clotting!  The clotting travels to everything in the body as well as the lungs.  In the lungs the clotting begins shutting down the oxygen intake into the blood.  With low blood oxygen, all of the body begins to starve for oxygen.  By that time your chance of survival is very slim because everything is damaged. 

What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you.  We all must decide for ourselves and our own particular set of circumstances.

Bigwolf

[carolinarider09]

Question to the General Public reading this "thread". 

Is the blood clotting a common result of contracting a "COVID" type disease? 

I ask because the conspiracy part of me thinks that making your blood clot would be a very good way of causing damage to the human body. 

There would seem to be many bad things that could happen. 

[Valkorado]

Question to the General Public reading this "thread".  

Is the blood clotting a common result of contracting a "COVID" type disease?  

I ask because the conspiracy part of me thinks that making your blood clot would be a very good way of causing damage to the human body.  

There would seem to be many bad things that could happen.  

Yes.  This particular one, anyway.

It would indeed be an effective biological weapon, especially a whoops lab release, not quite ready for primetime. Airborne to bloodborne, and clotting does cause lots of very bad things to happen.  Like Jerry said, everywhere in the body.

Thanks for your valuable personal experience input Jerry.   If I know you, you milked plenty of COVID knowledge from the candy stripe shower girls nurses at the horse pistol, too!  

[f6gal]

Question to the General Public reading this "thread". 

Is the blood clotting a common result of contracting a "COVID" type disease? 

I ask because the conspiracy part of me thinks that making your blood clot would be a very good way of causing damage to the human body. 

There would seem to be many bad things that could happen. 

There is a lot medical terminology, but here is a decent description of the disease process.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.120.019650

[Valkorado]

Question to the General Public reading this "thread". 

Is the blood clotting a common result of contracting a "COVID" type disease? 

I ask because the conspiracy part of me thinks that making your blood clot would be a very good way of causing damage to the human body. 

There would seem to be many bad things that could happen. 

There is a lot medical terminology, but here is a decent description of the disease process.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.120.019650

Uh, is there a CliffsNotes version of that?   

[f6gal]

Question to the General Public reading this "thread".  

Is the blood clotting a common result of contracting a "COVID" type disease?  

I ask because the conspiracy part of me thinks that making your blood clot would be a very good way of causing damage to the human body.  

There would seem to be many bad things that could happen.  

There is a lot medical terminology, but here is a decent description of the disease process.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.120.019650

Uh, is there a CliffsNotes version of that?    

Yeah, it is rather involved.  Use the abstract and conclusions for the Cliff Notes version.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

Question to the General Public reading this "thread".  

Is the blood clotting a common result of contracting a "COVID" type disease?  

I ask because the conspiracy part of me thinks that making your blood clot would be a very good way of causing damage to the human body.  

There would seem to be many bad things that could happen.  

There is a lot medical terminology, but here is a decent description of the disease process.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.120.019650

Uh, is there a CliffsNotes version of that?    

Yeah, it is rather involved.  Use the abstract and conclusions for the Cliff Notes version.  

I guess there’s a reason I was a butcher. I read about 3 paragraphs of the abstract section, and was lost.   I think I’m going to have to rely to doctors and scientists that I feel are smart and worthy of trust. Thanks for helping me and others thru this monstrosity that went down as 2020. It’s been greatly appreciated.  

[Valkorado]

Jerry if it's not too personal a question, and please ignore it if it is, did you have any known heart rhythm problems prior getting the 'rona, and do the doctors think your current heart issue is related to clotting?

[DDT (12)]

Jerry,

Good of you to share your experience with the rest of us! A very timely and important bit of information, for sure... Glad you're on the road to recovery, and I'm looking forward to doing the ride deed with you in the not-too-distant future... Later, dude...

DDT

[Jersey mike]

When I called my doctor’s office to inform them Barbara and I tested positive, the staff lady who answered the phone told me the doctor was recommending 325mg of ASPIRIN twice a day while recovering. I didn’t ask why aspirin, but Barbara and I assumed it was for the clotting issue as well as a fever reducer. I was also told 5000mg Vitamin D3 every day as well as a dose of Zinc which I cannot recall the dosage off the top of my head.

[scooperhsd]

If I ever have a reason to get tested and I do show positive - clotting is a serious issue for me.

[Bigwolf]

Seth,
I struggled with Afib for several months in 2012.  After a conversion treatment in February 2013, and 2 years of meds to control it, I weaned myself off the meds and have done pretty well for most of the last 5 years. But as age grows on me the time for having to deal with Afib again had been creeping back up on me.  The COVID just did enough damage there that the Afib is not going to right itself without professional intervention again.

When I started this thread, I intentionally made the blood clot information short and concise so as to not throw a lot of people under the bus of too much technical information.  I just mentioned what, to me, is the bottom line of major concern.  The truth is that COVID sets up a lot of inflammation throughout the body and that then initiates the clotting process.  In my case, the inflammation has pushed my Afib back into constant existence because it has scarred some of the heart tissue.  There could be some blocked capillaries around the heart also, but tests will have to be run to sort that all out.  I am still keeping my explanation very brief and concise.

Connie,
Nice in depth read there!  Thanks.  I skimmed thru it.  I don’t want to be a doctor, just have to read and study enough for self preservation.  They have nearly succeeded in killing me more than once.

Bruce,
Thanks!  I am looking forward to getting in some riding this year too!  See you soon.

Jersey Mike,
Yes, those meds are in line with current protocol for stopping the COVID.

Scooperhsd,
I n that case, if I did get a positive test result, I would immediately go to the emergency room and tell them to hit that Corona with everything they have and kill it ASAP!

[Valkorado]

Thanks, Jerry, that was kinda what I suspected.

On the inflammation thing.  I was aware of this, and that is one of the biggest concerns for me personally.  I have severe chronic multisystemic inflammation.  I think I'll continue to try and avoid this crap!   

Best wishes.

[f6gal]

If I ever have a reason to get tested and I do show positive - clotting is a serious issue for me.

Have you talked to your doctor about being on daily aspirin?

[Rams]

If I ever have a reason to get tested and I do show positive - clotting is a serious issue for me.

Have you talked to your doctor about being on daily aspirin?

Do those come in blue?

Rams 

[98valk]

If I ever have a reason to get tested and I do show positive - clotting is a serious issue for me.

Have you talked to your doctor about being on daily aspirin?

Fish oil daily is extremely much better.
 aspirin daily has been proven to be dangerous esp when many think the common 325mg is what to use except the original studies only used 50-75mg per day. latest studies even show that low dose has danger everyday. then one could get into all of the excipients in most asprin which causes health issues.

[Daniel Meyer]

BigWolf,
Glad you're here to write about it and I'm hoping for a full and rapid recovery for you.

Fish oil daily is extremely much better.
 

Just read a study that said high doses of fish oil (the good stuff...omega 3's) significantly increased COVID survival in a placebo controlled study...due it's thought to it's anti inflammatory properties.

In the not-covid side, it did wonders for me and my inflammatory related health issues as I was losing weight/etc. I still take it daily. All my numbers are ideal (from an ex-diabetic, ex-high blood pressure, cholesterol, bad kidney markers etc etc etc etc.

Again, the good stuff. The cheap ones have a lot of omega 6, which is actually inflammatory (think corn oil) and you get more than enough of already.

Good stuff.
The study:
https://translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12967-021-02795-5

[Valkorado]

BigWolf,
Glad you're here to write about it and I'm hoping for a full and rapid recovery for you.

Fish oil daily is extremely much better.
 

Just read a study that said high doses of fish oil (the good stuff...omega 3's) significantly increased COVID survival in a placebo controlled study...due it's thought to it's anti inflammatory properties.

In the not-covid side, it did wonders for me and my inflammatory related health issues as I was losing weight/etc. I still take it daily. All my numbers are ideal (from an ex-diabetic, ex-high blood pressure, cholesterol, bad kidney markers etc etc etc etc.

Again, the good stuff. The cheap ones have a lot of omega 6, which is actually inflammatory (think corn oil) and you get more than enough of already.

Good stuff.
The study:
https://translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12967-021-02795-5

Interesting double blind study, Daniel.  1,000 mg is definitely not a megadose, and is still affordable enough for daily consumption.  I'm taking 500 mg daily of krill omega 3 oil, and shouldn't be getting the cooties anytime soon (vaccine).  I'll bump it to 1000 mg if I ever do.

[scooperhsd]

If I ever have a reason to get tested and I do show positive - clotting is a serious issue for me.

Have you talked to your doctor about being on daily aspirin?

I've been taking Low dose since the 1990's when it was first recommended by studies. Every night, without fail.

[scooperhsd]

If I ever have a reason to get tested and I do show positive - clotting is a serious issue for me.

Have you talked to your doctor about being on daily aspirin?

Fish oil daily is extremely much better.
 aspirin daily has been proven to be dangerous esp when many think the common 325mg is what to use except the original studies only used 50-75mg per day. latest studies even show that low dose has danger everyday. then one could get into all of the excipients in most asprin which causes health issues.

I also take daily krill oil.

[98valk]

BigWolf,
Glad you're here to write about it and I'm hoping for a full and rapid recovery for you.

Fish oil daily is extremely much better.
 

Just read a study that said high doses of fish oil (the good stuff...omega 3's) significantly increased COVID survival in a placebo controlled study...due it's thought to it's anti inflammatory properties.

In the not-covid side, it did wonders for me and my inflammatory related health issues as I was losing weight/etc. I still take it daily. All my numbers are ideal (from an ex-diabetic, ex-high blood pressure, cholesterol, bad kidney markers etc etc etc etc.

Again, the good stuff. The cheap ones have a lot of omega 6, which is actually inflammatory (think corn oil) and you get more than enough of already.

Good stuff.
The study:
https://translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12967-021-02795-5

Interesting double blind study, Daniel.  1,000 mg is definitely not a megadose, and is still affordable enough for daily consumption.  I'm taking 500 mg daily of krill omega 3 oil, and shouldn't be getting the cooties anytime soon (vaccine).  I'll bump it to 1000 mg if I ever do.

krill oil is a marketing ploy and not worth the extra cost, known to easily become rancid during processing. all from original papers I read from when it first came to market.

https://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/03/11/krill-oil-dangers-possible-risks-safety-concerns/

https://healthnile.com/krill-oil-side-effects-may-shock-you/

best to stay with fish oil, cod liver oil and salmon oil.

[Jess from VA]

I used to take the fish oil, but I substituted bacon grease because it tastes better.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

I used to take the fish oil, but I substituted bacon grease because it tastes better.   

Works for me