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old2soon
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« on: June 06, 2021, 09:39:48 AM »

       Last Saturday-Memorial Day Weekend Sat-instead of ol corn POLLUTED 87 octane I Filled with the cage with 91 Octane PURE GASOLINE. I'm going to run through at least one more tank-about 65 cents More a gallon than 87 corn "enhanced" fuel-and do my due diligence. I Will State now I do Notice better throttle response and cruise control appears to hold better on hills and what not. But I Need a LOT better M P G return to quantify the extra expenditure per gallon. Not Sure BUT I may actually be getting the Full horse power and torque rating this engine was built with. G M 3.8 Non turbo Gen III.
                                              RIDE SAFE.
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scooperhsd
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2021, 10:04:25 AM »

I try to use the Non-Ethanol gas in my Valk, especially in late OCt / - March, when I don't know how long it might be before my next ride. My theory is that no ethanol is better for storage. I haven't noticed much difference in performance / MPG, but it does seem to run better.

I also use the Non-Ethanol in MIL's lawn tractor for mowing. Again, the storage issue.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2021, 10:37:37 AM »

When I travel to get all my cans filled up with corn-free (for the 21 carburetors at my house), I always top my newer 2017 truck off with corn-free too.  

It doesn't need it, but it sits for long periods with no more than short 20-30 minute drives all the time, so I feel better about it acting like a storage tank than a truck.  It also runs better, and I know I get better mileage, but maybe not more than 2-3mpg.  (I have not done the math)
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pais
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2021, 12:24:34 PM »

I have pure gas available to me 7 miles from home. Here, it is $4 a gallon. That is all that I use in all the small engines around the house. It is all that I use in the Valk as well. Only time it sees corn is when I am traveling further than 1 tank will allow.
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old2soon
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2021, 01:50:42 PM »

I have pure gas available to me 7 miles from home. Here, it is $4 a gallon. That is all that I use in all the small engines around the house. It is all that I use in the Valk as well. Only time it sees corn is when I am traveling further than 1 tank will allow.

        I believe there is a website called corn free gas or something like that. I've used the ebsite here at the casa. The station I get the corn free at about 20 miles from the casa. RIDE SAFE.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2021, 02:24:15 PM »

Have you noticed any difference in how your motorcycle engine runs?

Of course it's just seat of the pants (and not technical proof), but I swear when I honk on it, it has more power.  My test is a long straight entrance ramp onto the freeway, less than a mile from my no-corn station.  Hard roll-ons from mid speeds also seem faster (and more energetic).  

But I cannot say I really notice any difference just tooling around.  

EDIT: This is 87 regular no corn (we don't have premium no corn anywhere I know of).  

I ran premium corn gas a couple times years ago, and got no difference at all in performance, just heard it corroded carbs a bit slower than regular corn gas.  This was before corn free.
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cookiedough
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2021, 02:53:57 PM »

I tried 91 non ethanol straight for a few tankfuls way back when and noticed the RPM's at idle were 100-200 rpms more than 87 e-10 gas 10% ethanol.  I calculated mpg normal driving around and saw no noticeable difference in the few tankfuls though.  Not really sure it had more power/hp, but by revving higher rpms it seemed like it just a smidge, but not much any difference really, just higher rpms throughout the power band is all.  If any mpg was better, I would say minimal at best 1/2 mpg better, if that.

If knowing going to let sit for a period of 1 month or more,  I would say beneficial to use 91 NON ethanol gas vs. 87 E-10 gas though.   Paying extra EVERY tankful being about 70 cents per gallon more is not worth it to me if knowing you will be taking cycle out for a spin every few weeks.  However, come October into November,  I use 91 octane NON ethanol last few tankfuls before winter. 

One thing I should do and do others agree?  If not going to ride cycle for say 1 month or so,  we should be shutting the petcock to OFF, agree?     I know some shut off the petcock from ON to OFF after EVERY ride, but doubt many do it.   Thoughts????
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Cyclejohn
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2021, 03:35:15 PM »

One thing I should do, and, do others agree? 

If not going to ride cycle for say 1 month or so,  should we be shutting the petcock to OFF?     

I totally agree 100% .

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pais
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2021, 04:42:53 PM »

I have pure gas available to me 7 miles from home. Here, it is $4 a gallon. That is all that I use in all the small engines around the house. It is all that I use in the Valk as well. Only time it sees corn is when I am traveling further than 1 tank will allow.

Have you noticed any difference in how your motorcycle engine runs?
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I think it does but like Jess from Va., it's purely seat of the pants. I do not have a dyno in the garage. It gets better MPG's for sure. That's a fact! MPG's are of no concern with a motorcycle for me. I'm one of those dweebs that calculates every tank of fuel in my vehicles. I run the pure gas to keep carbs clean and o-rings in tact. I had to do a complete carb service on it in '14. I have no desire to do it again.  I do not get to ride it as often as I like. The extra $ for the pure gas is worth it to me.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2021, 06:17:14 PM »

Before I changed out my 4 degree trigger wheel back to stock (on interstate), I used to knock a little on regular 87 corn gas, and that went away with 89 mid grade corn gas.  But since the TW change, I just ran 87.  

For two years, neither bike gets anything but no corn, but no longer trips for me in that time.

This is the pure gas website.  I think it is user maintained (like Wikipedia), so it may not be the entire gospel according to Luke, Mark and John.  https://www.pure-gas.org/
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