Antique Tag

[Warlock]

Went to the court house and got her a antique tag. Of course they will have to mail it to me. Around 10 to 14 days.
David

[Hook#3287]

That's a cool idea

Obviously, your state is 20 years old to be an antique, right?

My opinion is Valks are "reto" but most look new.

With a antique plate, retro, new looking, but an antique?

Even more confusing to the civilian population.

[Valkorado]

May do that too, but they are considerably more costly here.  Tha Bullet is 25, born in October, 1996.

[DIGGER]

Wow!!!   That'll make ya step back and take a look.     Not many motorcycles that are 25 yrs old still look good.   The Valkyrie is a rare machine!!!

[Warlock]

That's a cool idea

Obviously, your state is 20 years old to be an antique, right?

My opinion is Valks are "reto" but most look new.

With a antique plate, retro, new looking, but an antique?

Even more confusing to the civilian population.

Mine is a 97 with a born date of 96. It surprised me when the girl told me I can get one now. So I jumped on it.
David

[Prescott John]

I have Solo1's sidecar and thought about putting "historic" plates on the bike, but have to wait a another 3 years before I can get them.  The sidecar is mounted to a 99 interstate and the vehicle must be 25 years old here in Arizona to get them.

[Warlock]

I have Solo1's sidecar and thought about putting "historic" plates on the bike, but have to wait a another 3 years before I can get them.  The sidecar is mounted to a 99 interstate and the vehicle must be 25 years old here in Arizona to get them.

It's 25 years here also. I figured it would be next year being it was titled as a 97. But the girl told me they go by the built date here.
David

[Serk]

Sadly, this is part of the requirement to getting antique plates here in The Republic of Texas:

"I certify I am the owner of the above-described vehicle, and as statutorily required, I also certify the frame, body, and motor are at least 25 years old; the vehicle is a collector’s item that will be used solely for exhibition, club activities, parades, and other functions of public interest; it is not a replica or aftermarket vehicle; will not be used for daily transportation except when routine maintenance is needed; and will not carry advertising."

[msb]

I have "Collector" plates here in BC on my '78 Wing. My Valk will be eligible in a few years. I like how they do it up here. Has to be 25 years old for starters,  and you have to have another vehicle liscenced for the road with regular plates/insurance (truck, car, or another bike). The bike has to be in excellent shape with no dents, rust (some pitting on chrome seems to be OK), tears in upholstery, etc , and while it can have aftermarket add-ons or replacement parts, they have to be period correct and made to fit that particular Era of bike and cannot be "performance" parts. For bikes, you have to submit an application form and sign off that your info is true, and send in 6 specific good quality  5 x 7 or bigger photos from each angle specified. Takes about 4 weeks usually to get either an approval or request for more info, or denial reply.
Up here, regular bike insurance is quite expensive....getting approved for Collector plates saves a ton of money. I pay about 6 times less for the Wing than I currently do for the Valk, for a full 12 months.  With Collector plates, the only restriction is that it cannot be used to commute to work. Otherwise it can be ridden anywhere, anytime....no other restrictions

I have aftermarket Mac exhaust , Progressive shocks, and lower bars on my Wing, and a few paint nicks and some pitting on the signal light stem and fender supports chrome. None of it is significant however...I got approved for my Collector plates no problem.

[Warlock]

Sadly, this is part of the requirement to getting antique plates here in The Republic of Texas:

"I certify I am the owner of the above-described vehicle, and as statutorily required, I also certify the frame, body, and motor are at least 25 years old; the vehicle is a collector’s item that will be used solely for exhibition, club activities, parades, and other functions of public interest; it is not a replica or aftermarket vehicle; will not be used for daily transportation except when routine maintenance is needed; and will not carry advertising."

Many states are like that.  Here, I get antique insurance but use a regular plate.  Reason is the antique plate costs $10 more a year and tax values the old bike at $500.  The state tax value with a regular plate is $250, so there is no benefit to the antique plate.  And the insurance policy has no limit of miles for "pleasure driving".

Here in Ms the antique tag never expires. Only pay the one fee and no more paying for a tag.
David

[old2soon]

Sadly, this is part of the requirement to getting antique plates here in The Republic of Texas:

"I certify I am the owner of the above-described vehicle, and as statutorily required, I also certify the frame, body, and motor are at least 25 years old; the vehicle is a collector’s item that will be used solely for exhibition, club activities, parades, and other functions of public interest; it is not a replica or aftermarket vehicle; will not be used for daily transportation except when routine maintenance is needed; and will not carry advertising."

             Pretty dang close to what I just read on Missouri Antique tags. But as my vehicles-Phatt Ghurl Cage trailer etc-age my tag cost and taxes drop. Lets just say my tags and taxes Dropping Are diametrically opposed to a Lot of other states in The Union.  Sides one of us soon-Me or Phatt Ghurl gonna spend Too much time on a trailer as it are!  RIDE SAFE.

[Oldfishguy]

I run classic plates in MN with all my machines; buy once, and done with annual fees.

We have a 20 year rule as well, so my 01 Interstate qualified this year. Similar to Texas we are read that statement as well: parades, shows, etc.  I’ve been running these plates on some bikes for 20 years now and never had a problem.  The only time I’ve heard of issues is if someone takes a classic registered vehicle to work every day or similar.  Just respect the spirit of the law and most should be fine.

To take another step in some older 1970’s machines I’ve installed “MN original” plates.  These plates would have been issued the year of manufacturer of the machine.  So a 1973 machine would have a plate either stickered or embossed with a 73 plate.  It is still considered a Classic plate and registered under the old plate with the DMV.  Fun to hunt for one on eBay, but the real “fun” is to find a DMV gal that knows how to process it.


For insurance I use Hagerty on all my machines, including the Valkerie.  They were reluctant to insure such a newer machine but did since I run quite a few older bikes on the policy.  I’m sure I pay under $100 per year for a $7000 value (comp and collision), with $0 deductible.  Well worth it to see if you can qualify.

[Valkorado]

I run classic plates in MN with all my machines; buy once, and done with annual fees.

We have a 20 year rule as well, so my 01 Interstate qualified this year. Similar to Texas we are read that statement as well: parades, shows, etc.  I’ve been running these plates on some bikes for 20 years now and never had a problem.  The only time I’ve heard of issues is if someone takes a classic registered vehicle to work every day or similar.  Just respect the spirit of the law and most should be fine.

To take another step in some older 1970’s machines I’ve installed “MN original” plates.  These plates would have been issued the year of manufacturer of the machine.  So a 1973 machine would have a plate either stickered or embossed with a 73 plate.  It is still considered a Classic plate and registered under the old plate with the DMV.  Fun to hunt for one on eBay, but the real “fun” is to find a DMV gal that knows how to process it.


For insurance I use Hagerty on all my machines, including the Valkerie.  They were reluctant to insure such a newer machine but did since I run quite a few older bikes on the policy.  I’m sure I pay under $100 per year for a $7000 value (comp and collision), with $0 deductible.  Well worth it to see if you can qualify.

Honda-o-Rama!  Great collection there.

[Grandpot]

South Carolina is a 25 year state for antique plates.  However, you are restricted to only shows, parades  and traveling to and from them.  You cannot use that plate for general operation. Bummer.

[Rams]

Sadly, this is part of the requirement to getting antique plates here in The Republic of Texas:

"I certify I am the owner of the above-described vehicle, and as statutorily required, I also certify the frame, body, and motor are at least 25 years old; the vehicle is a collector’s item that will be used solely for exhibition, club activities, parades, and other functions of public interest; it is not a replica or aftermarket vehicle; will not be used for daily transportation except when routine maintenance is needed; and will not carry advertising."

Many states are like that.  Here, I get antique insurance but use a regular plate.  Reason is the antique plate costs $10 more a year and tax values the old bike at $500.  The state tax value with a regular plate is $250, so there is no benefit to the antique plate.  And the insurance policy has no limit of miles for "pleasure driving".

Here in Ms the antique tag never expires. Only pay the one fee and no more paying for a tag.
David

YES!!!   I still have to wait another year for my 98 and then another year for my 99 but, there is a financial advantage to gett'n this done.   

Rams

[msb]

I run classic plates in MN with all my machines; buy once, and done with annual fees.

We have a 20 year rule as well, so my 01 Interstate qualified this year. Similar to Texas we are read that statement as well: parades, shows, etc.  I’ve been running these plates on some bikes for 20 years now and never had a problem.  The only time I’ve heard of issues is if someone takes a classic registered vehicle to work every day or similar.  Just respect the spirit of the law and most should be fine.

To take another step in some older 1970’s machines I’ve installed “MN original” plates.  These plates would have been issued the year of manufacturer of the machine.  So a 1973 machine would have a plate either stickered or embossed with a 73 plate.  It is still considered a Classic plate and registered under the old plate with the DMV.  Fun to hunt for one on eBay, but the real “fun” is to find a DMV gal that knows how to process it.


For insurance I use Hagerty on all my machines, including the Valkerie.  They were reluctant to insure such a newer machine but did since I run quite a few older bikes on the policy.  I’m sure I pay under $100 per year for a $7000 value (comp and collision), with $0 deductible.  Well worth it to see if you can qualify.

Honda-o-Rama!  Great collection there.

Agree

[Oldfishguy]

I have "Collector" plates here in BC on my '78 Wing. My Valk will be eligible in a few years. I like how they do it up here. Has to be 25 years old for starters,  and you have to have another vehicle liscenced for the road with regular plates/insurance (truck, car, or another bike). The bike has to be in excellent shape with no dents, rust (some pitting on chrome seems to be OK), tears in upholstery, etc , and while it can have aftermarket add-ons or replacement parts, they have to be period correct and made to fit that particular Era of bike and cannot be "performance" parts. For bikes, you have to submit an application form and sign off that your info is true, and send in 6 specific good quality  5 x 7 or bigger photos from each angle specified. Takes about 4 weeks usually to get either an approval or request for more info, or denial reply.
Up here, regular bike insurance is quite expensive....getting approved for Collector plates saves a ton of money. I pay about 6 times less for the Wing than I currently do for the Valk, for a full 12 months.  With Collector plates, the only restriction is that it cannot be used to commute to work. Otherwise it can be ridden anywhere, anytime....no other restrictions

I have aftermarket Mac exhaust , Progressive shocks, and lower bars on my Wing, and a few paint nicks and some pitting on the signal light stem and fender supports chrome. None of it is significant however...I got approved for my Collector plates no problem.



Nice machine, not many left in that condition!  I’ve always liked the naked early wings, they were just in a class by themselves in that era.

[sandy]

Antique plates in AZ are made of copper. One of our state products. Might get one for my 94 F150. Next year for the 97 Valk.

[Jess from VA]

Antique tag and insurance is cool, but most insurance doesn't allow regular riding.  If you did dump the bike (and couldn't go after the other guy), you could find yourself without collision.  But what if you (really) needed liability (like you ran over a pedestrian)?  Having to sue your insurance co for coverage is not a good deal.

I never carried a cent of collision (or full coverage) on any bike, even brand new.  

This is my favorite plate, but VA charges more money for every specialty plate... EVERY YEAR.  (so KMA)



2d place.

[Oldfishguy]

This is a MN original, and the classic plates. When you spot the year you need on eBay, I call our local DMV to see if the plate tag is in use by someone else. If not I will buy it (usually about $25 for a nice one).  Then come renewal time I will find the one DMV gal within 100 miles of me that knows the process to transfer it over. I have a different DMV gal at another facility that helps me with non titled bikes. Same rules, some just interpret them differently.

I will put that 81 plate on this 1981 C70 I picked up this summer as a 25 year non runner. Runs like a new sewing machine now. I like this one so I’m sure I’ll keep it; others, not so much.





I will not do the MN original plate on the Valk for a few years though, I think that would just be asking for trouble from the local police as they would pull me over thinking they were expired registration plates. They would quickly realize the mistake but no need to cause a fuss over it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

This is a MN original, and the classic plates. When you spot the year you need on eBay, I call our local DMV to see if the plate tag is in use by someone else. If not I will buy it (usually about $25 for a nice one).  Then come renewal time I will find the one DMV gal within 100 miles of me that knows the process to transfer it over. I have a different DMV gal at another facility that helps me with non titled bikes. Same rules, some just interpret them differently.

I will put that 81 plate on this 1981 C70 I picked up this summer as a 25 year non runner. Runs like a new sewing machine now. I like this one so I’m sure I’ll keep it; others, not so much.





I will not do the MN original plate on the Valk for a few years though, I think that would just be asking for trouble from the local police as they would pull me over thinking they were expired registration plates. They would quickly realize the mistake but no need to cause a fuss over it.

Man, you sure do good work on all those older Honda’s 

[Oldfishguy]

Antique tag and insurance is cool, but most insurance doesn't allow regular riding.  If you did dump the bike (and couldn't go after the other guy), you could find yourself without collision.  But what if you (really) needed liability (like you ran over a pedestrian)?  Having to sue your insurance co for coverage is not a good deal.

I’m sure you are correct that insurance companies are reluctant to pay, given a way out they will take it.  That is a good reminder not to make statements until consulting a lawyer in many regards, it is way to easy to incriminate oneself needlessly.

[Jess from VA]

I mean, if you are limited to shows or parades, that's going to be a hard story to come up with, if you need a story at the accident scene. 

I dislike insurance as much as anyone; it's actually one of the biggest, finest scams humans ever devised.

And real close to what would otherwise be illegal gambling.  OK, I'm betting I'm going to screw up or something bad will happen to me.  OK, your bet will cost you $1250 a year (with a $500 deductible).  And we do it our whole lives, and hope our bets never pay off. 

[Rams]

Antique tag and insurance is cool, but most insurance doesn't allow regular riding.  If you did dump the bike (and couldn't go after the other guy), you could find yourself without collision.  But what if you (really) needed liability (like you ran over a pedestrian)?  Having to sue your insurance co for coverage is not a good deal.

Just because it's got an antique tag doesn't mean the vehicle/bike has to have "Antique Insurance".   May be different in other states but, the last three states I've lived in had no such requirement of an antique tagged vehicle having to have antique insurance.   That was always an option but, not a requirement.

Rams

[Jess from VA]

Well, as this thread shows, insurance rules vary by state (state insurance commissions).

Some states suck more than others.

VA is the only state I ever lived where if you get pulled over, they don't ask for proof of insurance.  You're not even required to carry it.  'Course it might come up at an accident scene, but I don't have any experience with that.

My only antique insurance is my Medicare A & B.   

Last time I was at the dermatologist to get chunk of my face removed, the counter girl asked me whether my BC/BS or Medicare was primary.

How the hell do I know?  Bill them all and someone will pay.   (brought laughter and a few claps from fellow victims in the waiting room)

[_Sheffjs_]

Love love love the exhaust! 




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[Oldfishguy]

Jess brings up some very valid points about insurance coverage.  This is how Minnesota's reads:

How many miles per year may I operate my Collector Vehicle?

Minnesota does not have a mileage restriction for collector class vehicles.  Collector vehicles are to be operated only as a “Collector’s Item” and may not be used for general transportation. Generally driving to and from collector events (shows, parades) is acceptable.  Check with local Law Enforcement for more specific issues.

Pretty vague.  As I said before, don't take it to work everyday, or take it running the same errand every day, etc.  I've been running collector class plates for 20 years now without issue. Try to operate within the spirit of the law within your state.  

As far as insurance goes, I'm not going to run a commercial for Hagerty because I have never had a claim with them and that is the telltale yet unknown to me.  But the rates they have are exceptional.

[Jess from VA]

Here's the real secret.

Never get pulled over, never get in an accident, and never file a claim.

If you can do this, you don't need any insurance at all.