Selling a house

[Patrick]

is a royal PITA. Been in this house for 47 years and put it up for sale to move to Florida full time. Dealing with realtors and people in general is a pain. The farmer across the road clearly sees the for sale sign and for the past 2 weeks has daily spread crap on the fields without turning any of it under. That makes for a lovely experience for anyone wanting to walk theu the house. Maybe someone/something is trying to tell me not to sell.

[old2soon]

          You and da prez need to git together. RIDE SAFE.

[Chrisj CMA]

is a royal PITA. Been in this house for 47 years and put it up for sale to move to Florida full time. Dealing with realtors and people in general is a pain. The farmer across the road clearly sees the for sale sign and for the past 2 weeks has daily spread poop on the fields without turning any of it under. That makes for a lovely experience for anyone wanting to walk theu the house. Maybe someone/something is trying to tell me not to sell.

It would be nice to welcome you to the free state of Florida. One of the few places left where common sense is still common

[Rams]

The farmer across the road clearly sees the for sale sign and for the past 2 weeks has daily spread poop on the fields without turning any of it under. That makes for a lovely experience for anyone wanting to walk theu the house. Maybe someone/something is trying to tell me not to sell.

Patrick,
I honestly doubt the farmer is trying to stop you from selling the house.   Is this an annual event?   Might be a good idea to ask the farmer how much longer he'll be doing this.   Or, when he plans to turn that ground over....   Adjust the showings to after he or that is done.

Rams

[_Sheffjs_]

I surely hope you will not make the mistake of going too far south, I can surely tell you that as a boy riding bicycles in 68 in Sarasota with my cousins it was paradise and now Miamisota or sorrysota. They have destroyed this place.    

[f6gal]

I surely hope you will not make the mistake of going too far south, I can surely tell you that as a boy riding bicycles in 68 in Sarasota with my cousins it was paradise and now Miamisota or sorrysota. They have destroyed this place.    

So where a the best places in Florida?

[Patrick]

The farmer across the road clearly sees the for sale sign and for the past 2 weeks has daily spread poop on the fields without turning any of it under. That makes for a lovely experience for anyone wanting to walk theu the house. Maybe someone/something is trying to tell me not to sell.

Patrick,
I honestly doubt the farmer is trying to stop you from selling the house.   Is this an annual event?   Might be a good idea to ask the farmer how much longer he'll be doing this.   Or, when he plans to turn that ground over....   Adjust the showings to after he or that is done.

Rams

The farmer is not trying to stop the sale of the house. He's just being him, he doesn't give a crap [pun intended].  That crap is supposed to be plowed/tilled under before sunset, but, its never done or ever enforced.
If the house doesn't sell, oh well, maybe next year.

[Patrick]

I surely hope you will not make the mistake of going too far south, I can surely tell you that as a boy riding bicycles in 68 in Sarasota with my cousins it was paradise and now Miamisota or sorrysota. They have destroyed this place.    

We're next to Clearwater. I know many don't like the area thinking its too crowed and the traffic is crazy. They're right, but, I like the area. There is a lot to do and you learn to work around the traffic.
I have friends in Sarasota and don't think I'd mind living there.
Most areas have changed a lot over the decades and I don't like the changes either, but, I still like it down there.
I'm just getting tired of taking care of 2 places, NYS taxes and winter. I think its easier to sweat than shiver. I think I want to take it easier and sit back and smell the mojito's.

[Jess from VA]

Best of luck with your sale Patrick.  I would think your knowledge of the area and market would give you a pretty good idea of potentials.   

It's a subject I often contemplate, and decide against, just because of the pure miserable trouble and thousand details.  In the current market (and for quite some time), I could sell at a good price in a week.  I have a stack of letters offering to buy (by pro flippers, who even offer to move me). 

Sorry for the aroma.  Probably the smart thing is to come up with a good line (for any tire kickers):  How about that country aroma eh?  That guy is supposed to till it under but doesn't always get to it right away.  It's a couple weeks a year.  No worries.     

[John Schmidt]

I surely hope you will not make the mistake of going too far south, I can surely tell you that as a boy riding bicycles in 68 in Sarasota with my cousins it was paradise and now Miamisota or sorrysota. They have destroyed this place.    

We're next to Clearwater. I know many don't like the area thinking its too crowed and the traffic is crazy. They're right, but, I like the area. There is a lot to do and you learn to work around the traffic.
I have friends in Sarasota and don't think I'd mind living there.
Most areas have changed a lot over the decades and I don't like the changes either, but, I still like it down there.
I'm just getting tired of taking care of 2 places, NYS taxes and winter. I think its easier to sweat than shiver. I think I want to take it easier and sit back and smell the mojito's.

I'd love to find a place in the Largo area but finding it a bit too pricey for retirement income. Don't really want to go back to the Orlando area, lived there for 53 years and it's not the same. Crime is becoming an issue in many neighborhoods. I wouldn't mind the east cost north of the Cape and south of St. Augustine, but would prefer the Gulf coast. If I still had family down there I'd move back in a minute, but without that it would be rather lonely. I live up here near my youngest daughter but still alone all the time...no friends, nothing. I've had enough of the "lonely" thing. 

[Patrick]

I surely hope you will not make the mistake of going too far south, I can surely tell you that as a boy riding bicycles in 68 in Sarasota with my cousins it was paradise and now Miamisota or sorrysota. They have destroyed this place.    

We're next to Clearwater. I know many don't like the area thinking its too crowed and the traffic is crazy. They're right, but, I like the area. There is a lot to do and you learn to work around the traffic.
I have friends in Sarasota and don't think I'd mind living there.
Most areas have changed a lot over the decades and I don't like the changes either, but, I still like it down there.
I'm just getting tired of taking care of 2 places, NYS taxes and winter. I think its easier to sweat than shiver. I think I want to take it easier and sit back and smell the mojito's.

I'd love to find a place in the Largo area but finding it a bit too pricey for retirement income. Don't really want to go back to the Orlando area, lived there for 53 years and it's not the same. Crime is becoming an issue in many neighborhoods. I wouldn't mind the east cost north of the Cape and south of St. Augustine, but would prefer the Gulf coast. If I still had family down there I'd move back in a minute, but without that it would be rather lonely. I live up here near my youngest daughter but still alone all the time...no friends, nothing. I've had enough of the "lonely" thing. 

I can understand the moving to be near family, many do it.  I just don't like snow and cold anymore. I like the Pinellas county area. I've made quite a few friends down there. Always something to do. Lots of Tikibars.

[Patrick]

Best of luck with your sale Patrick.  I would think your knowledge of the area and market would give you a pretty good idea of potentials.   

It's a subject I often contemplate, and decide against, just because of the pure miserable trouble and thousand details.  In the current market (and for quite some time), I could sell at a good price in a week.  I have a stack of letters offering to buy (by pro flippers, who even offer to move me). 

Sorry for the aroma.  Probably the smart thing is to come up with a good line (for any tire kickers):  How about that country aroma eh?  That guy is supposed to till it under but doesn't always get to it right away.  It's a couple weeks a year.  No worries.     

I can talk to them, but, most folks don't like those 'couple weeks a year'.  I don't mind it too much  used to it. But its irritates me now just the way its being done. House may not sell this year because of it.

[Rams]

I can understand the moving to be near family, many do it.  I just don't like snow and cold anymore.

Back in my youth, I loved snow.   Used to do everything I could to be out in it.   Now, I don't even like seeing pics of snow.   Ironically, I don't mind riding in the cold. Funny how age changes one's attitude about things like that.   Moved to Southern Mississippi, had a four way snow plow/blade for pushing snow.   Could wait to get rid of it. 

BTW, it ain't easy to sell a snow plow/blade in Southern Mississippi. 

Rams

[Patrick]

Patrick, I understand.  I had a house for sale that was well maintained, neat and clean.  Those real estate people kept telling us to clean up before we showed the house.  No dirty dishes, unmade beds, etc.  Took us a while to figure out they were going to the wrong house, but the Realtor key let them in.  Ours was house #323, and those realty people saw a similar sign and stopped at #313.

That probably cost us and was certainly a lot of work for my wife to get two little kids out of the house for showings that did not happen.

OMG !   That realtor would get the boot if they did that to me. Talk about a PITA. Thats downright incompetence.
I guess I should glad there are no other for sale signs on our road.

[Patrick]

I can understand the moving to be near family, many do it.  I just don't like snow and cold anymore.

Back in my youth, I loved snow.   Used to do everything I could to be out in it.   Now, I don't even like seeing pics of snow.   Ironically, I don't mind riding in the cold. Funny how age changes one's attitude about things like that.   Moved to Southern Mississippi, had a four way snow plow/blade for pushing snow.   Could wait to get rid of it. 

BTW, it ain't easy to sell a snow plow/blade in Southern Mississippi. 

Rams

OH, I loved the winter too. I enjoyed plowing and service calls.  Snowmobiling and X/C skiing. The worse the weather the more I liked it.  Getting too old for it now.
After the treatments and weight loss if its 70º I'm in a sweatshirt. Folks laugh at me for it. Its easier to sweat than shiver.

[0leman]

I understand your pain.  We had to sell my Mom's home two years ago.  She lived some 80 miles away.  Thankfully the home went on the market in the late fall, so keeping the yard up was not a big deal.  It would have helped having the home across the street taken care of.  It was one of those that the folks just walked away, foreclosed, and looked like it. Thankfully we were able to get a good price with out much hassle, other than the normal stuff in closing. 

Good luck.

[Chrisj CMA]

https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1422996970042429445?s=21

This is our Governor. I believe him. We will be as free as you can be here in Florida for awhile

[Patrick]

https://twitter.com/dailycaller/status/1422996970042429445?s=21

This is our Governor. I believe him. We will be as free as you can be here in Florida for awhile

I like him and I like him right where he is. I prefer he stay as governor. He gets all the liberals riled up and there seems to be more and more of them moving into that state.

[Chrisj CMA]

And then the other foot dropped. DeSantis talking to Joe Biden. Love it

https://twitter.com/crrja5/status/1423158686202175488?s=21

[Patrick]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a  beer  and looked things over. I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing. So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay  the  realtor commission.

[Tundra]

And then the other foot dropped. DeSantis talking to Joe Biden. Love it

https://twitter.com/crrja5/status/1423158686202175488?s=21

I respect our Governor, truly a man of integrity.

[cookiedough]

houses are HOT right now, going for 20-30K more than their asking prices, buyers go into bidding wars.  I could sell my house easily since under 200K but where go then?  Most other homes are over 200K.  Plus,  bigger home means about 2K more on average in property taxes every year. 

My daughter age 22 and fiancee age 26 got a house IMO 20K more than it was worth but got it at the start of the bidding wars so they offered near basically the sellers asking price so as to not loose the house in a very nice location.  They had a little help money wise from mommy and daddy though to get approved for the home loan 

[Jess from VA]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a beer and looked things over.  I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing.  So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay the realtor commission.

I think if you read your realtor contract, it will say any sale during the duration of the contract entitles them to their percentage of sale.

If I sell, given the high demand and seller's market in my area, I will use no realtor.  (just the internet and a title company)

Six percent is one thing, like when my house originally sold in 1960 for $17,500, but it's another thing when it sells for a half a million (or so).  There is no possible way their level of work and assistance entitles them to that kind of pay check.

Ever notice how may local area real estate ladies drive around in $80K cars?  (and look for the two carrot rings)

[Patrick]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a beer and looked things over.  I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing.  So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay the realtor commission.

I think if you read your realtor contract, it will say any sale during the duration of the contract entitles them to their percentage of sale.

If I sell, given the high demand and seller's market in my area, I will use no realtor.  (just the internet and a title company)






I was going to, and, should have stuck out my own sign for a month or so.

Six percent is one thing, like when my house originally sold in 1960 for $17,500, but it's another thing when it sells for a half a million (or so).  There is no possible way their level of work and assistance entitles them to that kind of pay check.

Ever notice how may local area real estate ladies drive around in $80K cars?  (and look for the two carrot rings)

[f6gal]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a  beer  and looked things over. I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing. So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay  the  realtor commission.

You'll definitely be paying the commission.  Especially since you didn't find the buyer; the realtor sent him there.

[Patrick]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a  beer  and looked things over. I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing. So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay  the  realtor commission.

You'll definitely be paying the commission.  Especially since you didn't find the buyer; the realtor sent him there.

 Yep, afraid so.

[cookiedough]

in today's HOT market,  one would think a realtor is not needed as much could sell the home pretty much by yourself.

Now my kid age 20 is all wants to consider buying a home next spring, renting part of it out to others he knows,  then the renters will be paying his monthly payments for him.  Good idea as long as can trust his friends for payment and they will not be leaving the area.  Upkeep though could be a hastle am sure since probably will be an older home? 

Renting a home with others as both kids have done past few years while still in or right outta college is darn near as expensive monthly payments as just buying a house making monthly payments and wasted money IMO renting for more than a few years.

[signart]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a  beer  and looked things over. I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing. So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay  the  realtor commission.

A real estate agent that knows what they are doing makes sure the the customer has a a pre-approval letter stating how much of a house they qualify for. The Realtor is wasting their and your time showing a house out of the customers price range. Some can't qualify at all.
This is what an agent is for, they should screen potential buyers and direct them to property they need, want and qualify for.

[signart]

A couple came to look at the house. Realtor screwed up the appt time. So we sat and had a beer and looked things over.  I think it may be sold if they can arrange financing.  So I sell the house and will still probably have to pay the realtor commission.

I think if you read your realtor contract, it will say any sale during the duration of the contract entitles them to their percentage of sale.

If I sell, given the high demand and seller's market in my area, I will use no realtor.  (just the internet and a title company)

Six percent is one thing, like when my house originally sold in 1960 for $17,500, but it's another thing when it sells for a half a million (or so).  There is no possible way their level of work and assistance entitles them to that kind of pay check.

Ever notice how may local area real estate ladies drive around in $80K cars?  (and look for the two carrot rings)

Do you mean you would refuse to take more than amount you want for your house because you don't want an agent to get a commission?
You already know you agree on an amount you want for your house, so that is not the listing price. With the housing shortage in the South, it is rare that a house sells for the listing price. Right now prices are up 51% from 2020, which prices were already on the rise without the inflation of building materials. Most every house around here sells well above listing price.
There is no shortage of customers.

[Jess from VA]

Do you mean you would refuse to take more than amount you want for your house because you don't want an agent to get a commission?

(Local) house sales are a matter of public record.

I would not undervalue my house (without a realtor), if I decided to sell.

I am not against paying anyone their fair market value, but I'm always against paying exorbitant values.

I actually have a friend broker who found my house for me 30 years ago.  I'd probably give her a chance to work for me, for a reasonable price.  That is not 6 percent. 

[signart]

A current market analysis is done by comparing similar properties sold in the same proximity, and that determines the fair market value. One can sell for less or try to set the market higher.
You just can't get rid of your dead beat renters

[Jess from VA]

The beauty of my situation is I live in a very large subdivision area built in the 60's with 4 principle house styles repeated all over the place on third or quarter acre lots.  There are oddball houses here and there, but mostly the 4 same houses.  So I can look on line and see what my exact house sold for right in my neighborhood (though of course some get big updates/improvements, and some don't).

My exact house, kitty corner to me, sold for 380K in '20, and my exact house across the street sold for 495K 6 months ago.  
(All sold new in '60 for $17,500 )

I'm actually making more money not selling and just watching the insanity.

Of course, the county property tax people are orgasmic with the whole thing.  

[Oss]

In an exclusive right-to-sell agreement, the seller will be responsible for paying the realtor fees even if they find the buyer completely on their own.

With an exclusive agency listing, the seller will only pay fees in the event the realtor finds the final buyer.

The difference is VERY IMPORTANT

But again as said above if the person came because of the broker, you pay, as you should

[signart]

In an exclusive right-to-sell agreement, the seller will be responsible for paying the realtor fees even if they find the buyer completely on their own.

With an exclusive agency listing, the seller will only pay fees in the event the realtor finds the final buyer.

The difference is VERY IMPORTANT

But again as said above if the person came because of the broker, you pay, as you should

I have to modify the response I made to this earlier as I didn't read carefully (or understand), of course Oss's statement is correct.

[scooperhsd]

Be REAL CAREFUL about selecting a seller's agent. The one we got for our NC house just didn't give me good vibes - and as things went on - he just reinforced it. I was almost ready to punch him through the glass door at the closing attorney's office by the time things were all said and done. He certainly was not very honest and upfront with us. I certainly would not give him a $250 check for him to get somebody to remove satellite dishes / OTA antennas and told HIM to eat that cost, since I suspect it was going to be a buddy of his that did the job.

[Jess from VA]

If you think about it, there are always better and worse businesses, goods and services.

When selling your house, likely the highest price thing you have ever owned (by far), it would pay to do your necessary homework to secure a good motivated competent agent.  

Just like other businesses, the company/agency may have a very good rep, but the particular guy you get from them may still suck.

I think I can sell my house with no agent.  If I did sell, I would talk to a couple good ones and give them a chance to talk me out of it.  If I hired one, I would never try to screw him out of his fee, if he does his job.  I might hard bargain his fee to below standard up front, esp when it can sell in a week anytime right now (and will not pay anyone $30K for a week's work).

[Patrick]

Around here the rate is 6%, they all stick together.

I'm about ready to fire the realtor,  I let him how I felt a week ago.  Haven't heard a word from him since. So, I'll probably keep the house and try again next summer. The market will probably crash about then.