Marijuana Inc.

[JimL]

Thought some of you might find this documentary interesting.


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[..]

I've watched that a couple of times and am mightily impressed with the size of some of the palnts. The ones I used to grow in England years ago only ever achieved about 7 feet tall. Darn English weather.

[JimL]

I've watched that a couple of times and am mightily impressed with the size of some of the palnts. The ones I used to grow in England years ago only ever achieved about 7 feet tall. Darn English weather.

LOL...How is the climate down in Georgia working out for you...just kidding....DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!

[..]

I've watched that a couple of times and am mightily impressed with the size of some of the palnts. The ones I used to grow in England years ago only ever achieved about 7 feet tall. Darn English weather.

LOL...How is the climate down in Georgia working out for you...just kidding....DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!

It's a dry cold 

[sheets]

I've seen it.  I live in the middle of it (California's emerald triangle).  I'm not enthused.  Society as a whole in this area is going down hill.  Few folks want to work and earn a living the old fashioned way.  Out my front window . . . 20-something age couple (not married), with toddlers.  "215" cards each.  Height and density of crop in the garden would make an Iowa corn farmer envious.  All the illicit activity that goes with it - 24/7.  All the while "mooching off the government tit", including rent subsidy ($800 each (not married)), unemployment, and whatever else goes with single moms w/kids.  Stay home all day goof'n off and tend to the garden, toke'n it up, with the young'ns under foot.  In Humboldt County (and probably the others), most of the fire department calls in residential areas are the result of indoor grows.  Even in the rural areas, brush and forest fires are commonly the result of grows.   Crock of sh!t.     

[Gary]

Now I can't swear to it but a coupla huff'n shots there sure looked like Willow's moustache... 

[Disco]

This will make your head spin, and not from the effects of any drugs (or a really great ride on a Valkyrie!).   

From a Time Magazine article dated 25 March 2009, "... within the past 40 years, the U.S. government has spent over $2.5 trillion dollars fighting the War on Drugs. Despite the ad campaigns, increased incarceration rates and a crackdown on smuggling, the number of illicit drug users in America has risen over the years and now sits at 19.9 million Americans."

From The Budgetary Implications of Drug Prohibition dated December 2008 by Jeffrey A. Miron, Department of Economics, Harvard University, with research funding provided by The Criminal Justice Policy Foundation:

• The report estimates that legalizing drugs would save roughly $44.1 billion per year in government expenditure on enforcement of prohibition. $30.3 billion of this savings would accrue to state and local governments, while $13.8 billion would accrue to the federal government. Approximately $12.9 billion of the savings would results from legalization of marijuana, $19.3 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $11.6 from legalization of other drugs.

• The report also estimates that drug legalization would yield tax revenue of $32.7 billion annually, assuming legal drugs are taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco. Approximately $6.7 of this revenue would result from legalization of marijuana, $22.5 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $3.5 from legalization of other drugs.

• Whether drug legalization is a desirable policy depends on many factors other than the budgetary impacts discussed here. Rational debate about drug policy should nevertheless consider these budgetary effects.

• The estimates provided here are not definitive estimates of the budgetary implications of a legalized regime for currently illegal drugs. The analysis employs assumptions that plausibly err on the conservative side

[Doc809]

Dave, you have too much time on your hands.  We need to go riding!! L

[fiddle mike]

Although this is an over simplification, once you make the stuff legal you remove the criminial element.  I would rather see my law enforcement tax money going to real crime fighting than hiking around the woods looking for illegal grows and hanging off a chopper skid with an M16.

Once you allow the Man to tax something you just exchange one criminal element for another. De-criminalization make more sense, to me.
 I think it's absolutely immoral to set terrorists free and give illegals a walk while incarcerating Americans for possession of pot.

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Although this is an over simplification, once you make the stuff legal you remove the criminial element.  I would rather see my law enforcement tax money going to real crime fighting than hiking around the woods looking for illegal grows and hanging off a chopper skid with an M16.

Once you allow the Man to tax something you just exchange one criminal element for another. De-criminalization make more sense, to me.
 I think it's absolutely immoral to set terrorists free and give illegals a walk while incarcerating Americans for possession of pot.

Well said Mike and I could'nt agree more.

[fudgie]

Although this is an over simplification, once you make the stuff legal you remove the criminial element.  I would rather see my law enforcement tax money going to real crime fighting than hiking around the woods looking for illegal grows and hanging off a chopper skid with an M16.

Once you allow the Man to tax something you just exchange one criminal element for another. De-criminalization make more sense, to me.
 I think it's absolutely immoral to set terrorists free and give illegals a walk while incarcerating Americans for possession of pot.

Well said Mike and I could'nt agree more.

+2 

[JimL]

Although this is an over simplification, once you make the stuff legal you remove the criminial element.  I would rather see my law enforcement tax money going to real crime fighting than hiking around the woods looking for illegal grows and hanging off a chopper skid with an M16.

Once you allow the Man to tax something you just exchange one criminal element for another. De-criminalization make more sense, to me.
 I think it's absolutely immoral to set terrorists free and give illegals a walk while incarcerating Americans for possession of pot.

Well said Mike and I could'nt agree more.

+2  

I am sure that I will get the "stink eye" from my conservative friends...but I have to agree that decriminalization of marijuana makes a lot of sense.

[alph]

I have never used any illegal drug in my life.  To me, this whole thing about maryjane, is about as equal as premarital sex.  Once you try it, you’re hooked for life.

When I watched my father waste away from cancer, he took a lot of pain pills that all made him constipated.  I’m not sure, but I’ve been told that maryjane doesn’t have any side effects when used as a pain reliever.

[fudgie]

To me, this whole thing about maryjane, is about as equal as premarital sex.  Once you try it, you’re hooked for life.

I'd have to disagree with that.

As for the sex, its only premarital if you plan on getting married! 

[fiddle mike]

I have never used any illegal drug in my life.  To me, this whole thing about maryjane, is about as equal as premarital sex.  Once you try it, you’re hooked for life.

When I watched my father waste away from cancer, he took a lot of pain pills that all made him constipated.  I’m not sure, but I’ve been told that maryjane doesn’t have any side effects when used as a pain reliever.

Alph, there's still a lot of misconceptions and outright lies about the effects of marijuana.  It's not addictive and it's not a gateway drug. It's less harmful than tobacco or alcohol or a regular diet of McDonalds food. It has medicinal uses and, according to researchers, may stave off Alzheimer's Disease and other forms of dementia.

It's not legal, but neither is riding at 100 mph with, or without, straight pipes. 

Just so's you know, I'm not a pot head  or an activist.

[night1owl]

Why is it that everyone cares about what others do in there life? Why should anyone care if someone smokes pot? I smoked it back in the 70's and it didn't make me a low life. I work every day like a lot of people and raised a family. I don't drink and could care less if they made that illegal.  I believe if you like to drink, that's Ok. It's your life. I have a commercial drivers license and get tested for drugs, but if I was on welfare I could smoke pot and drink all I want.
People just care more about what everyone else is doing. It's a fact that most crimes are over drugs, because there is a lot of money to be made (being illegal) and there are a lot of people killed over  it. Just make them legal. They have been here forever and they will always be here.
The reason they're not legal is the beer companies don't want it and what would all of the lawyers do?   If you think that the government is trying to keep drugs out of this country, you're naive.
So for the people that can, smoke a little for me.... 

Smoking some pot now and then is not going to kill you...Just be responsible. What we should be worrying about is what is going on in this government..Amen

Again, quit worrying about what everyone else is doing in their life.

[czuch]

JimL, No stink eye here.
I believe legalization is the way. Regulate,tax,sell.
I smoked for 20+years. I went to work everyday,supported myself and had a ball. I too have a CDL and found it easy to quit when the daughter came along.

.02

[Jack]

I use to use marijuana on a daily basis but stopped shortly after my first daughter was born.  I did not feel the high was worth the possibility of having a child taken away.
If it were legal, I'd use it today IF the price was right.  I use to buy a kilo for $165 and lids for $10.  Now the price is off the roof.  I am told it is because it is so much better than it was back in "my day".  I smoked a joint with a friend a few weeks ago.  It didn't seem any better to me, if even as good.  I'd like to see it legalized in the same manner as alcohol.

[wdvalk]

Hight1owl hit it on the nose,its the government we should throw in jail,they are all on the take,I still partake now and then and have no bad experiences,as for them prices,it depends on where you live

[PharmBoy]

Forget about Mary Jane!  Give those that want it, any and all they want free of charge with free syringes.  The drug cartels would immediately cease to exist, crime (theft and robbery) would decrease immediately and before long, so would all those that wanted all the hard narcotics in the first place.  You would be surprised at the number who would O.D. in the first couple of months.  If they do not have sense enough to leave it alone, give them all they want and raise the level of intelligence of the gene pool.  Besides, it would decrease my work load and it would no longer make the doctors and pharmacists the policemen that they are now expected to be...JTL  (Maybe a little of this is "tongue in cheek", but not much.  Think about it!) 

[Disco]

I just can't get past the $2.5 TRILLION with no noticeable results.  What is this, a government program?  Oh, wait.      

[Jeff K]

Forget about Mary Jane!  Give those that want it, any and all they want free of charge with free syringes.  The drug cartels would immediately cease to exist, crime (theft and robbery) would decrease immediately and before long, so would all those that wanted all the hard narcotics in the first place.  You would be surprised at the number who would O.D. in the first couple of months.  If they do not have sense enough to leave it alone, give them all they want and raise the level of intelligence of the gene pool.  Besides, it would decrease my work load and it would no longer make the doctors and pharmacists the policemen that they are now expected to be...JTL  (Maybe a little of this is "tongue in cheek", but not much.  Think about it!) 

syringes?

Wouldn't the seeds plug up the needles?  

[PharmBoy]

Dave, you hit the nail on the head that time and drove it home with one swift blow!  I do not see how anyone, even those writing our tremendously expensive bills in Washington, can really think that they will do better with the next law they pass.  Surely they can see their own track record!....JTL 

[PharmBoy]

Jeff K, I really wasn't talking about Mary Jane.  Besides, I understand that there shouldn't be any seeds in it.  Could I have been misinformed???...JTL

[Jeff K]

Jeff K, I really wasn't talking about Mary Jane.  Besides, I understand that there shouldn't be any seeds in it.  Could I have been misinformed???...JTL

http://www.jkozloski.com/pics2/trash/chongold.mp3

[fudgie]

I agree with Jack. 
I'm around it all the time at bike events/rallies, even on some EMS runs. Alot of my biker friends do it. Even I got a high a time or 2, or 3...  All my friends are good guys, we just like to get rowdy at times.
Weed is minor compared to what they are doing now. Its the prescription stuff thats easily obtainable. You cannot beleive all the 'drug seekers' that we haul in. We carry the good stuff on the trucks and they know it. Dulaudid, Fentynal, Morphine, Etc. Makes them mad when we don't give them any. But what does the ER doc do? Gives them what they want. Then they are back a few days later. They know how to play the system.
Most will knock over a old lady to get her Oxy.

[Disco]

And for the latest...

California to consider legalizing pot

[G-Man]

I just can't get past the $2.5 TRILLION with no noticeable results.  What is this, a government program?  Oh, wait. 

The New York State Gov't is subsidizing gambling!!!  Talk about a freakin' gov't program!  NY state run Off Track Betting (OTB) loses money every year, but the gov't continues to throw money at it.  Now Belmont racetrack on Long Island is demanding....yes, demanding a bailout.  When does the house lose money???  When the house is the gov't!   

[czuch]

google; Toby Keith,  " I'll never smoke with Willie again."
Now THATS funny

[Disco]

When does the house lose money???  When the house is the gov't!

Unbelievable. 

[asfltdncr]

google; Toby Keith,  " I'll never smoke with Willie again."
Now THATS funny

I don't think Willie would smoke with TK.