Stanley Steamer's drive line...

[hubcapsc]

Stanley came to InZane in HIS TRUCK  . He said he thought
he felt a vibration from his bike and was afraid it was his
u-joint. We looked in there today and it was toast.



Before we got there we looked at the pinion end of his drive
shaft and found it to be worn...



Iphones take awesome pictures. I download from my iphone right to
my computer via USB. Each image has about a bazillion megapixels.
Stanley texted these pictures to me, by the time they got here
they were reduced to like maybe 5 or 10 pixels  ...
Anywho... take my word for it, the pinion was worn...

I brought over an old flange. We mounted it to a thick piece of
plywood and screwed the plywood to the deck of his workshop
right next to the wall. That defeated two of the three degrees
of freedom, the internal gears couldn't spin and the case
couldn't spin. The pinion cup nut came off easy...



We spun the case around and the new pinion cup went on easy,
we used his torque wrench and set it at 80 ft/lbs.



We reused the old drive shaft spring and circlip, but used a new
pinion seal.





His flange and splines were great, you can see a couple of splines
we cleaned off with a q-tip, they look nice.



Stoopid boot.



Steamer did all the work, I just posed for the pictures.

-Mike

[RonW]

 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Poser ! 

[GWS]

Just wondering, any idea how may miles on the u-joint?

[pancho]

Steamer did all the work, I just posed for the pictures.


        I know that's true!



Can't help wondering if you forced the old boot back on or had a new one?

[Bighead]

Mike seems to me Stanley was the one holding the camera

[hubcapsc]

Just wondering, any idea how may miles on the u-joint?

120,000ish... he said a few times, it's near that. I'm glad it was so
worn, it made it more obvious to me the difference in feel between
a bad one and a good one. It is easy to make Stanley's old ujoint do
things that are obviously wrong. Plus, the broken pieces didn't leave much
room for guessing  ...

-Mike

[hubcapsc]

Steamer did all the work, I just posed for the pictures.


        I know that's true!

Can't help wondering if you forced the old boot back on or had a new one?

He had a new boot, so we used it. When I changed my ujoint about five years
ago, I also had a new boot, but I was at home and not in a hurry. I tried
Tracy's idea about rolling the old boot back on and it worked great. We
tried the rolling-trick with Stanley's new boot but it didn't seem to work
so well. It might be that the stiff old boot was way happier to unroll and
snap back into its accustomed shape and position than a rubbery new one.
Anywho... getting the boot back on turned out to be the only "hard" part
of the job.

-Mike

[Chrisj CMA]

Good work. That’s always the fun part. Getting the u-joint and boot changed out. 

[Stanley Steamer]

Just wondering, any idea how may miles on the u-joint?

112,791 miles.....looking at other's posts.....a lot of Ujoints failed in the 70-80K range....some a little later, a few earlier than that....I guess I got my $$'s worth out of the OEM ujoint.....about 22 years worth...

[Stanley Steamer]

Good work. That’s always the fun part. Getting the u-joint and boot changed out.  

Ujoint was easy......even with a new boot, THAT boot was the hard part.....thankfully Mike was a LOT more patient than me...he got it to go on finally....my hands are skinned up in several places...

[Stanley Steamer]

Stanley came to InZane in HIS TRUCK  . He said he thought
he felt a vibration from his bike and was afraid it was his
u-joint. We looked in there today and it was toast.



Before we got there we looked at the pinion end of his drive
shaft and found it to be worn...



Iphones take awesome pictures. I download from my iphone right to
my computer via USB. Each image has about a bazillion megapixels.
Stanley texted these pictures to me, by the time they got here
they were reduced to like maybe 5 or 10 pixels  ...
Anywho... take my word for it, the pinion was worn...

I brought over an old flange. We mounted it to a thick piece of
plywood and screwed the plywood to the deck of his workshop
right next to the wall. That defeated two of the three degrees
of freedom, the internal gears couldn't spin and the case
couldn't spin. The pinion cup nut came off easy...



We spun the case around and the new pinion cup went on easy,
we used his torque wrench and set it at 80 ft/lbs.



We reused the old drive shaft spring and circlip, but used a new
pinion seal.





His flange and splines were great, you can see a couple of splines
we cleaned off with a q-tip, they look nice.



Stoopid boot.



Steamer did all the work, I just posed for the pictures.

-Mike

I sent you a better pic of the wear on the pinion cup side of the driveshaft......close -up photos are more tricky to take with my iphone....

[hubcapsc]

In "real life" the wear-side of the spines look about 1/3 gone.
Did it need to be replaced? "probably" or "maybe" being OK is not OK
when you're on the side of the road 



Stanley, I guess you've gone on a test ride after you got the bags and
stuff back on?

-Mike

[..]

In "real life" the wear-side of the spines look about 1/3 gone.
Did it need to be replaced? "probably" or "maybe" being OK is not OK
when you're on the side of the road 



Stanley, I guess you've gone on a test ride after you got the bags and
stuff back on?

-Mike

At that point new is good 

[Stanley Steamer]

In "real life" the wear-side of the spines look about 1/3 gone.
Did it need to be replaced? "probably" or "maybe" being OK is not OK
when you're on the side of the road 



Stanley, I guess you've gone on a test ride after you got the bags and
stuff back on?

-Mike

At that point new is good 

I wonder if it was the worn Ujoint that allowed the back of the driveshaft to wear like that??...

[Stanley Steamer]

In "real life" the wear-side of the spines look about 1/3 gone.
Did it need to be replaced? "probably" or "maybe" being OK is not OK
when you're on the side of the road  



Stanley, I guess you've gone on a test ride after you got the bags and
stuff back on?

-Mike

Not yet.....but I plan on getting her out and testing her this weekend......

[Bagger John - #3785]

112,791 miles.....looking at other's posts.....a lot of Ujoints failed in the 70-80K range....some a little later, a few earlier than that....I guess I got my $$'s worth out of the OEM ujoint.....about 22 years worth...

I've kept a spare U-joint in my stash since 2003 - one of Blondie's first gifts to me (us) shortly after we were married. The old Tech Board had accounts of U-joints failing at 20-30K and both of my Valkyries were approaching 20K accrued when her and I met. So...cheap insurance.

Haven't had to use it yet, as I'm currently on Valkyries #3 and 4 - each around 20K. (#1, 2 and 5 were sold). That being said, I'll probably get at least one more U-joint as a spare.

I don't drag-race any of mine, nor do I do clutch dumps or burnouts so the drivelines live relatively stress-free lives. Hopefully this will aid longevity and I won't need the spares.

[Stanley Steamer]

112,791 miles.....looking at other's posts.....a lot of Ujoints failed in the 70-80K range....some a little later, a few earlier than that....I guess I got my $$'s worth out of the OEM ujoint.....about 22 years worth...

I've kept a spare U-joint in my stash since 2003 - one of Blondie's first gifts to me (us) shortly after we were married. The old Tech Board had accounts of U-joints failing at 20-30K and both of my Valkyries were approaching 20K accrued when her and I met. So...cheap insurance.

Haven't had to use it yet, as I'm currently on Valkyries #3 and 4 - each around 20K. (#1, 2 and 5 were sold). That being said, I'll probably get at least one more U-joint as a spare.

I don't drag-race any of mine, nor do I do clutch dumps or burnouts so the drivelines live relatively stress-free lives. Hopefully this will aid longevity and I won't need the spares.

I'm really suprised mine lasted that long......because I'm very heavy on the throttle.....been through two sets of wheel dampners....

[Bagger John - #3785]

I'm really suprised mine lasted that long......because I'm very heavy on the throttle.....been through two sets of wheel dampners....

I'm heavy as well - but smooth in application.

For hooligan purposes, I have a pair of Concours 14s. If I want to go Uber-Hooligan some day I'll find a new(er) ZX-14 and set the chassis up similar to the Connies. Given that I'm tall and have a fairly long inseam, peg lowering/relocation kits are a must on everything I own - our F6s being no exception.

Sane people get high 30s to mid 40s in terms of MPG with the Valkyrie. I routinely see mid 30s with my Tourer and high 20s with my Supervalked I/S.