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Probie (Scooter57)
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« on: October 08, 2021, 03:25:54 PM »

I need a kick stand extension for a 98 Tourer. Found out that my frame has a bend in it when Mitch fixed the Hydro lock issue I had. I know that  someone associated with Valkyries had made some or perhaps someone has one to sell that they aren't using anymore. I'm sure that there's a link in here somewhere but like Stanley Steemer says...Slacker.
It's easier for me to ask and get a link than to spend several hours looking for it.

Thanks
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msb
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2021, 03:36:11 PM »

Had a buddy fabricate this one for me a couple years ago.


MarkT - Horseapple Ranch was manufacturing some for sale


In a pinch, you can always go with this temporarily  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2021, 03:56:58 PM »

I had a home made one on my 2d bike when I got it.  It didn't raise the bike much (but a little), but it doubled the footprint size, and I think was built and added more to avoid going over on hot asphalt or mud/dirt than making the bike sit taller.  It was held on with screws around and not through the stand, and I failed to keep them tight and it disappeared one day.

I have a purpose built throw down plate in a saddlebag if I'm afraid the kickstand footing is soft.

I shim with wood when I need to do certain work on it.

It isn't particularly hard to lift off the stand as it is, but I have discovered that purely stock bikes, with standard 13" shocks and tires, and no cross-member damage or bends, do not all lean the same.  My two stock interstates do not lean the same, one is harder to lift and leans more than the other, and I have carefully looked at my cross-members (undamaged).  

And it only takes a couple degrees of added lean for the bike to get noticeably heavier to pull off the stand.  And being short of stature/legs makes it more noticeable.

Mike, while I appreciate the ingenuity, I could not be seen in public with that wood and ziptie mod.   That is what some down my way commonly refer to as red neck engineering (at it's finest).   Grin  

I think if you were willing to drill a decent size hole (for a good strong screw; like quarter inch) through the stand pad, it would not be difficult to add a chunk of metal underneath that would work fine.  You would need to countersink the hole in the metal shim, and put a flat head bolt bottom up in it, so the head would not get ground off in use.  Then maybe an acorn nut on top to hide and protect threads and dress it up.  And a drop of Locktite.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2021, 04:57:41 PM »



Click on the link above.  Horseapple has marketed the extensions. 
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 06:31:31 PM »

Mike, that prototype is probably in my price range  Cry
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2021, 06:59:50 PM »

Willow, I didn't see any links or pictures of them, maybe he doesn't sell them anymore?
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2021, 07:12:34 PM »

Willow, I didn't see any links or pictures of them, maybe he doesn't sell them anymore?

I looked and didn't see them either, but I think if you email him (from his site) he may have some.

His site is mainly for his exhaust.  I think he has done some small production runs of other items over the years, and they don't get added to the site.

Or he may get around to reading this. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2021, 06:00:05 AM »

here is what I did.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,93955.0.html
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2021, 09:10:00 AM »

My solution looks like this.  It's polished SS box tubing, supports 2 heights, here in the highest position.  I found the lower height with the foot inside the tube is better for my Jade. I call the product BigFoot. That's a chromed plastic nut cover.



There are logistics issues with the product.  It requires machining and finish work on the sidestand, for which I can't assume buyers are appropriately tooled and skilled in order to make it as a kit.  Need a large drill press, angle grinder with flap wheels, MIG welder, bench grinder with wire wheel, Dremel, and powder coating equipment to prep/finish the sidestand. (I powder coat clear the cleaned and machined used sidestand.)  Doing that needed work here requires such shop time as to push the price too high for the market.  It requires a sidestand core ($60) with usually an exchange if I build the mod here, and the buyer to R&R the sidestand - more work than many would be willing to do.  (Though it is an opportunity to regrease your pivot - Honda did not install a zirk; should have IMHO.)  Never mind the cost nowadays to mail the sidestand both ways - recently increased again now with lower speed at the USPO.  The result is, $129 with $50 refundable when an undamaged sidestand is returned.  Not viable.  I can't reduce the cost, it's already a loss leader in terms of shop time, postage and materials cost - which isn't bad except the core, but steel has gone up recently from my suppliers right at 50% - though I have plenty of the bolts and nuts bought at the old prices.  I haven't found a different solution that reduces these issues.  For a local guy I could fit and tack weld it onto his sidestand and not use the bolt, if he would accept it not being adjustable, and not powder coating.  Or I could provide the box tubing only, polished and with appropriate cut, for you to have a local guy grind the sides of the sidestand foot (to use the lower position) and weld it on.  Have him use stainless weld that won't rust.  If so, the foot is $45 + shipping - likely about $9 now.

If you want it anyway - made here as complete, I can make one for you after this coming week - my time is tied up through Friday.  Contact info at horseapple.com, or click the link above, or PM.  (I don't post it here, I am constantly spammed now.)
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