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Author Topic: Anyone concerned with the stock market and your coins?  (Read 1283 times)
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« on: October 12, 2021, 04:02:08 PM »

I have my Nieces husband who has quite the position at a very prestigious investment firm. One that caters to only the extreme wealthy and he mentioned lots of his money moving to real estate.  I’m just not super comfortable right now. Thoughts? 
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2021, 04:30:39 PM »

Last months statement put me in negative territory to the year. Surprise, Surprise  tickedoff
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2021, 06:33:59 PM »

I have my Nieces husband who has quite the position at a very prestigious investment firm. One that caters to only the extreme wealthy and he mentioned lots of his money moving to real estate.  I’m just not super comfortable right now. Thoughts?  

I can't see the current real estate market being sustainable.  I see another housing market crash on the horizon.  I guess it depends on when you get in and how soon you get out.  

Of course, I'm not clairvoyant.  If I were, I'd give ya better advice.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2021, 07:42:46 PM »

I have my Nieces husband who has quite the position at a very prestigious investment firm. One that caters to only the extreme wealthy and he mentioned lots of his money moving to real estate.  I’m just not super comfortable right now. Thoughts?  

I can't see the current real estate market being sustainable.  I see another housing market crash on the horizon.  I guess it depends on when you get in and how soon you get out.  

Of course, I'm not clairvoyant.  If I were, I'd give ya better advice.

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2021, 07:50:12 PM »

I wish I had a crystal ball on that question.  My kid just got his 1st house today going to rent to 2 tenants college town and live there in 2022.  IMO he overpaid by at least 10K but the housing market is so INSANELY HIGH right now that old junker homes sell for full asking price well above what they are worth for sure.    Also depends on location, location, location as well.

I do not see the housing market falling off anytime soon and for sure not tanking.  Sure hope not for kid's sake he will be out 1000's if  that 170K house tanks in few years to 150K market value which IMO feels like is worth that 150K value now.

My house value has doubled in near 30 years but we are talking early 1990's here vs. now.   One thing I know for sure any decent shaped under 200K home sells anywhere within weeks of advertising it vs. 250K on up homes sit awhile longer.  Everyone is looking for under 200K homes nowadays to live in.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2021, 08:08:50 PM »

Everything is in a bubble right now. There are no bargains. Pay off debt. Own hard assets. Buy another Valkyrie or 2.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2021, 08:26:23 PM »

Everything is in a bubble right now. There are no bargains. Pay off debt. Own hard assets. Buy another Valkyrie or 2.

Even if we have 7?
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2021, 09:02:49 PM »

Everything is in a bubble right now. There are no bargains. Pay off debt. Own hard assets. Buy another Valkyrie or 2.

Even if we have 7?

I think the significant other would kick me out of the house if I bought another ANYTHING with a motor and believe it or not,  I agree with her after looking in my garage.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2021, 09:36:31 PM »

My neighbor asked me why I have 5 motorcycles. I said, “Because I sold 2.”
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2021, 11:23:40 PM »

I have been seriously worried about the stock market ever since the sodomy I endured in 2008.

I've been entirely out of it since I retired.

I've made nothing, but I've lost nothing either, which was the whole point (along with never worrying about it again).
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2021, 03:20:16 AM »

I too think there has to be a crash coming. I'm hoping the north house sells before it hits. I've been skeptical since 2009 also.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2021, 03:57:52 AM »

Jerry , I have concerns myself as my retirement is about 12 weeks away. I have a good amount with an investment group . At this time as much as I don't really like annuities I feel my final retirement package will be an annuity. At least that will provide a certain income, just no growth.
I suppose the extremely wealthy could purchase land/homes , but that only leads to more expense in the short term of taxes .  Exotic metals could hedge inflation but that value rises and falls with the market  though it may not vaporize like money in the stock market.
Just the thoughts of a nervous soon to be retiree Sad
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2021, 06:41:16 AM »

I'm more concerned about what the Democrats are trying to do (which will effect the stock market) and what they are doing to us and future generations.    Angry

Those who put this administration in office should hang their heads in shame.   tickedoff

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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2021, 09:03:42 AM »

Would anyone tap into a small portion of the 401 to own a second house outright? 
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2021, 11:02:39 AM »

Would anyone tap into a small portion of the 401 to own a second house outright? 

Is there a tax implication for taking money out of the 401?

What's the second house going to be used for? Income?
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2021, 11:38:25 AM »

Not too worried about the stock market.
I've got several years before I can cash out my investments.

I read something today from MSNBC (I think) that is saying that builders are over building homes right now.
They are predicting a crash in the housing market soon.

I have said multiple times that the current bubble can't hold.

The question isn't will it crash.

The question is when and how far.
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2021, 12:20:45 PM »

Would anyone tap into a small portion of the 401 to own a second house outright?  

There are a lot of angles to look at here.

But for starters, here's how I'd look at it.

A choice between keeping more cash liquidity now vrs future gains in real estate outperforming savings in the market.  

And paying 401K taxes now rather than later (when I paid my primary home off, I had to take an extra 25K out to pay the taxes on my payoff amount; which was hurtful).  But at least it was after my retirement, so my other income was rock bottom and not up in my peak earnings higher tax bracket. 

The most satisfying (and not thought about much) result of paying it off (besides just being glad it was), was that my savings started going right up, as a fixed income retiree, suddenly my biggest monthly bill by far (the mortgage) was no longer due each month and stayed right in my bank account.  In just a couple years, I bought my last truck new with that savings for cash.

Real estate and the market are pretty closely tied together value-wise, up and down.  You probably have more stability in real estate than the market (except there are a lot of market investment choices).    

My pile of cash is safe (as long as not too riskily invested).  But what if I sink a pile of money into that 2d home, and the real estate market plunges, and it looses a third or half of it's total value?  What happened to my cash I paid it off with?  And market and real estate crashes mean rents go down too.  Or, can you I hold the home long enough to regain your loss?  It will always come back, but when?

I'd always feel better about paying off my primary home, but less so for a 2d property.  That property I would try to manage in whatever way protects my overall financial position best.  

In uncertain times, cash in the bank may be safer, even with inflation.

I enjoy risk riding motorcycles.  I don't enjoy risk with my money (I worry my ass off).
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2021, 02:13:47 PM »

your fdic insured account is not really insured  Read their disclaimers

If your house is paid off you only have to worry about the taxes and insurance

Its gravy after that

I only started saving a few years ago as I paid off the house and my kids college educations   Told them keep a B+ and bank of dad will have it covered.   Glad I did they do not have a monkey on their backs

Now I could retire and get SS but too many good people depend on my legal expertise to abandon them

Good news  had 9 cases in court yesterday but no judgments issued yet   tickedoff

As to the OP   real estate is ok if you can hang on 1 yr with no income Why   The lord stopped making the earth a while ago  Location Location Location

Buy cheap in a cheap neighborhood you are not going to do as well as cheap in a nice area

Thats all I got
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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2021, 05:41:35 AM »

Invest in precious metals, Guns and Ammo.
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2021, 06:42:42 AM »

Don't forget "reloading" equipment. 
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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2021, 07:50:06 AM »

Meanwhile... those Rosland Capital gold backed IRA adds haven't stopped  Grin Grin Grin

My 401K has been in a slump since Sept 3rd... Let's go Brandon!
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