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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2022, 06:00:56 AM » |
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I bet it is in India. They do so much with so little. Safety is no concern or known. I have changed hundreds of truck tires. If I did not have a safety cage , I would wrap a chain around the tire thru the rim. I have had several blow apart. As careful as I was , sometimes it happens. Scares  the :evil:poop  out of you. da prez |
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2022, 06:04:34 AM » |
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The Pakistani space program advances.  I became an expert on the Mobil station tire machine at 16. But the more experienced guys told me to stay way from all snap ring truck tires, and I did. They explode man. |
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2022, 07:42:50 AM » |
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Where's waldo? Which way did he go? I had 2 different 3 piece-snap ring-tires come undone in the cage. Both times I could've Sworn the cage expanded at least a foot!  And both times were louder than a .44 Magnum. I'm tryin to recollect but I believe there were 16" 3 piece wheels a Long time ago. Some of those 10 22.5 tubeless would make a pretty loud Pop when the bead seated. Did the dud that got launched survive? RIDE SAFE. |
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2022, 08:09:23 AM » |
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No problem...he's right there...and there...and over there.......As for the wheel/tire, it orbits the earth every 2 hrs. I've not seen a truck tire blow like that while in a cage, but watched some guys change out a tire on a B-52. The wheel came apart and destroyed the cage but held enough so nobody was injured. I was about 50 yds. away so had no impact on me, as for the guys doing the job...they probably had to take the afternoon to go change their shorts. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2022, 08:19:29 AM » |
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No problem...he's right there...and there...and over there.......As for the wheel/tire, it orbits the earth every 2 hrs. I've not seen a truck tire blow like that while in a cage, but watched some guys change out a tire on a B-52. The wheel came apart and destroyed the cage but held enough so nobody was injured. I was about 50 yds. away so had no impact on me, as for the guys doing the job...they probably had to take the afternoon to go change their shorts. John-you happen to recall what P S I G the B 52 tire needed? RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2022, 08:31:27 AM » |
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PSI? No, wasn't my job...was just an observer sitting in a van that shuttled us from the shop to the flight line. After seeing that happen, I was glad I was an electronics tech...even though I got hit with -7500 once off a radar power supply. That was thanks to someone else's goof up, I was still out cold when they found me. I was generously given the rest of the day off, don't think I've had a headache like that in the many years since. Strangely enough...the twins ached like I'd been kicked there, obviously didn't affect potency.  |
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2022, 08:41:09 AM » |
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Back in the days that I worked in a tire shop, the guys in the commercial section had a retainer ring slip on a 2700/33 tire that was not in a cage. They didn’t have a cage big enough for that wheel/tire combo so they were airing it up in the parking lot just outside the back door. They didn’t have a chain around it either. It was the next day after a lot of brain twisting and sweating before anybody in the shop went near that wheel. A small car tire on a solid rim can kill you.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2022, 06:48:20 PM » |
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well glad that blowing up did not happen to me 2 years ago trying to POP ON a car tire on my suzuki burgmann 650cc. Youtube video said that exact same tire fit the scooter rim so gave it a shot. I went all way up to 110 psi with higher pressure downtown compressor at gas stations and NO luck popping onto the 14 inch rim. I later found out that very good possibility that more recent years 2008 on up rims like that guy had on his burgmann was slightly larger than prior years.
I looked like a fool wearing my cycle helment, thick gloves, armored cycle jacket in 85 degree temps outside hopping that car tire would POP/seal onto that rim. It did not so wasted 35 bucks destroying the rim carcass on that 14 inch car tire. oh well, live and learn, I tried.
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2022, 03:48:51 AM » |
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well glad that blowing up did not happen to me 2 years ago trying to POP ON a car tire on my suzuki burgmann 650cc. Youtube video said that exact same tire fit the scooter rim so gave it a shot. I went all way up to 110 psi with higher pressure downtown compressor at gas stations and NO luck popping onto the 14 inch rim. I later found out that very good possibility that more recent years 2008 on up rims like that guy had on his burgmann was slightly larger than prior years.
I looked like a fool wearing my cycle helment, thick gloves, armored cycle jacket in 85 degree temps outside hopping that car tire would POP/seal onto that rim. It did not so wasted 35 bucks destroying the rim carcass on that 14 inch car tire. oh well, live and learn, I tried.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2022, 07:24:48 AM » |
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When I worked on the line at MIA, these two yahoos were airing up a DC-9 tire at the gate in the maintenance van. They had the high pressure nitrogen bottle, but they had forgotten the pressure regulator to drop the pressure from a few thousand psi to a few hundred psi. Rather than go back to the hanger to get it, they connected the high pressure nitrogen bottle directly to the tire thinking they would modulate the pressure with the on/off valve (that's what they said at the deposition anyway). Doesn't work that way. When all the tie bolts failed and the wheel halves separated, the top half went through the top of the van like a cookie cutter. Don't know how high it went, but it went over the top of the terminal and landed out on the ramp between two other gates on the other side, fortunately missing everybody. I don't think those guys were allowed around airplanes again (they probably went on to management).
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2022, 02:04:49 PM » |
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well glad that blowing up did not happen to me 2 years ago trying to POP ON a car tire on my suzuki burgmann 650cc. Youtube video said that exact same tire fit the scooter rim so gave it a shot. I went all way up to 110 psi with higher pressure downtown compressor at gas stations and NO luck popping onto the 14 inch rim. I later found out that very good possibility that more recent years 2008 on up rims like that guy had on his burgmann was slightly larger than prior years.
I looked like a fool wearing my cycle helment, thick gloves, armored cycle jacket in 85 degree temps outside hopping that car tire would POP/seal onto that rim. It did not so wasted 35 bucks destroying the rim carcass on that 14 inch car tire. oh well, live and learn, I tried.
yah, I win darwin award on that one but if it is on YOUTUBE it must be true, correct? That car tire was so very very close to sealing just had about 1 inch less length to go and less than 1/4 wide inch to POP ON the rim and would not even at around 110 psi. I would never have tried a much larger 16 inch or larger car tire but this was only a smaller, but very wide, 14 inch car tire going on my 650 burgmann scooter rim. I think if it would have exploded doubt that it would have taken me out, but it coulda headed towards my neck though and been in trouble, or broke a wrist or arm I guess if exploded upward? what was worse was the guy at the cycle shop trying to get that darn tight fitting car tire off my scooter rim. He dinged my rim up pretty good in a few spots which sorta irked me trying to get it off and took over 1 hour to do it. He said darn near ruined his tire removal eqmt. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2022, 02:11:12 PM » |
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Look to the left of screen and I think you'll see the tire or its shadow as it comes down. At about 18 - 20 seconds.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2022, 07:28:49 PM » |
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Look to the left of screen and I think you'll see the tire or its shadow as it comes down. At about 18 - 20 seconds.
Anyone really good at math? You can get a rough estimate on altitude if you know what the hang time was. I hope they guy was wearing safety glasses, at least! Also, something lands on the ground to the right. I think it's a shoe. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2022, 07:20:15 AM » |
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Anyone really good at math? You can get a rough estimate on altitude if you know what the hang time was. I hope they guy was wearing safety glasses, at least!
Also, something lands on the ground to the right. I think it's a shoe.
I timed it and got roughly a 5 second hang time on the tire, which gives a height of ~30 meters. Not as much on the shoe. (The shoe falling was my favorite part of the video, though.) |
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2022, 10:52:23 AM » |
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Many moons ago, when was a teenager working at the Chapin Shell station in Myrtle Beach, one of our tasks (besides pumping gas) was doing tire changes.
Cars were a piece of cake as was doing the balancing but truck tires (maybe something like semi-tires) were bad news. Plenty of room for error and injury because, as I remember, that ring that actually was suppose to hold the tire inside the rim.
If it was not properly located and you inflated the tire it would blow off. Always first air of the tire from "behind" so the ring is pointed the other way, Still got you hand in the way though. But better than the whole body.
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