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« on: June 03, 2022, 05:43:16 AM » |
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Did an experiment. My battery is only two old at most and still strong. But after a small bit of research and with the help of my SIL who knows batteries better than I do we picked out a lithium battery for the bike. The thing came last night with s new charger. Only took a minute to get the orange light (full charge) on the battery. Yes it’s a “smart” battery. It also disconnects itself from the input from the alternator when it doesn’t need more juice. This has to be good for the alternator. Hold 14V without the engine running and has 480 CCA. Lights are brighter and starts quickly. The new charger even reconditioned my bad old old battery so now it’s holding a full charge. So far so good.  |
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Rams
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2022, 05:47:04 AM » |
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Had one on the Valk I crashed on. No issues ever. Lighter in weight.
But cost one heck of a lot more than a standard lead acid battery.
Would I get one again? If the price was right when I needed it, a definite yes.
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2022, 06:17:09 AM » |
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I switched to a lithium. Battery , charger and adapters were $195.00 delivered.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2022, 08:55:40 AM » |
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Nice, but my Battery Tender Juniors run about 35$ and keep my Yuasas going for years.
Always with a spare new uncharged (acid on the side) Yuasa in the house.
But I get it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2022, 02:52:20 PM » |
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sounds like double the cost about right? 200 vs. 100 for a Yuasa. Do you think you will get 2x's the useful life out of it? If so or darn near 2x's the life, it would be worth it.
I just scored (or at least I think I did) on 2 used deep cycle marine trolling motor batteries only 2 years old and 12.40 volts fully charged so not 100% but sure hope 85%. I bought from a rich young guy in a 0K Lake Michigan/Erie huge deep V hull fishing boat locally. He was only asking 40 bucks total for both. NEW each one is 120 bucks 27 group size. I asked why he got rid of them so soon, and he says he spends ALL DAY on big lakes and the 24v trolling motor ran them down too quickly needed to spend 300 bucks each on lithium batteries that last much longer and hold a charge much longer was the key.
For my 17ft. aluminum boat, 36lb. thrust 12volt trolling motor using it sparingly for 3-4 hours per outing fishing, I think for 20 bucks each is worth it to me. I ONLY need one, but since he had 2, I took both since if one goes bad sooner than expected, I have a spare.
Not so sure I would take a chance on a used Yuasa, etc. for my cycles unless registered over 12.45 volts and was 2 years old or less for say under 40 bucks. One does not want to get stranded even 50 miles from home.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2022, 03:57:39 PM » |
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sounds like double the cost about right? 200 vs. 100 for a Yuasa. Do you think you will get 2x's the useful life out of it? If so or darn near 2x's the life, it would be worth it.
Even if the useful life is "only" the same as a Yuasa, IMHO if the bit about taking some load off of the alternator pans out, it'd be worth it just to make the #*$()@$#@ alternator last longer.... NOT a fan of THAT job... |
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2022, 04:21:52 PM » |
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sounds like double the cost about right? 200 vs. 100 for a Yuasa. Do you think you will get 2x's the useful life out of it? If so or darn near 2x's the life, it would be worth it.
Even if the useful light is "only" the same as a Yuasa, IMHO if the bit about taking some load off of the alternator pans out, it'd be worth it just to make the #*$()@$#@ alternator last longer.... NOT a fan of THAT job... Hmmm. What a concept. Interesting technology if it stops pulling on the alternator significantly. What I'm curious about is how long that little battery would power the lights and attached accessories without having to hit the alternator again? I guess if the discharge rate with lithium is considerably better, it could give alternators more life. Keep us posted... |
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2022, 07:06:30 PM » |
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So we did a tad over 100 miles. My on board alternator was rock steady at 14V all day until almost home and then it appeared to take a break down to like 13V for a couple miles and then soon climbed back up to 14 and stayed there. That was different than usual so I attribute the difference to the new battery. Hopefully that was the alternator taking a quick nap.
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2022, 07:27:10 PM » |
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Might have to check the lithium battery out pretty soon. Just checked my records, and I put the Yuassa in the I/S April OF 2013.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2022, 03:56:08 AM » |
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Might have to check the lithium battery out pretty soon. Just checked my records, and I put the Yuassa in the I/S April OF 2013.
I just changed out my seemingly fine 2014 Yuasa with this:  And The Log Truck has had this in it since 2014 (I think)...  -Mike |
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2022, 04:22:21 AM » |
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I think my first exposure to a Lithium battery was when someone tossed it to me. I was prepared for something almost twice as heavy and almost threw it back up in the air when I caught it. Much lighter. If it is Lithium Iron Phonsphate like the Battle Born batteries that I use with the solar system in the RV they should last a lot longer than conventional lead acid batteries. If you run lead acid down to 50% just one time they are more likely to fail in the near future. Lithium batteries can be run down to 0 or flat and then just charged back up with no damage. The only negative to them that I am aware of is that you can't charge them below freezing or they will be damaged. Most of the higher end ones have a BMS or Battery Management System that monitors several factors including temperature.
If I still had a two wheeler I would think the investment would be worth it.
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