What to buy in case of a ban

[Savago]

Highly doubt that anything remotely close to the ban in the 90's will ever pass, but here is a useful list of what to buy to be prepared for the worst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOo5gNn_H08

The list suggests:
1. Foreign made AK-type rifles, though generally any foreign made rifle/braced pistol
2. Pistol carbine (your crush), threaded barrels, etc. If you're waiting, get them before they're banned
3. OEM Factory made 9mm Glock Magazines over 10 rounds (maybe better 33 round high cap mags)
4. AR15 stripped lowers
5. AR Mags

Funny (or sad part) is that I cannot buy the majority of things in the list in Kalifornia (e.g. regular capacity magazines, any pistol that has a threaded barrel, etc).

Even AR receivers, since it is considered a 'gun', I can only buy 1 gun per month per Kali law.
 :'(

[Jess from VA]

I would buy any firearm that I wanted to add to my collection, whether or not is might be banned.

Get whatever you want or need, don't choose something just because it might be banned.

The AK has never appealed to me.



   

[Psychotic Bovine]

I have everything I have ever wanted, firearm-wise.  With the exception of some "unicorns" like a .375 Wildey or an original Automag .44.  
I've had an AK.  Didn't do much for me and I sold it.

My advice to the OP?  Move.  

In Indiana we can have any weapon we want, except <drumroll please!>, throwing stars and ballistic knives.
We can own full auto belt fed crew served heavy machine guns, true select fire assault rifles, gatling guns (made just a 1/2 mile from my house!), sawed off shotguns, submachine guns, flamethrowers, switchblades, phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range, and sharp sticks.  We can have it all.  I love Indiana.

[cookiedough]

time to move outta CALI?   Is there really a need though to buy more than 1 firearm per month?

[Savago]

@Jess: I feel the same about AKs, never liked commie garbage or even worst, nazi guns from WWII (wanna buy something from WWII, go with a 1911 or a M1 garand!).

But the perspective of being unable to buy is real.

As an example, last month HK USPs fell out of the roster of allowed guns by the CA DOJ.

As a result, if you wanna buy one today, you got pay $2K to $2.2K for a used USP from a private party.

I'm glad I bought 3 of them while it was still allowed.
:-)

@Psychotic Bovine: I considered moving many times. Came this close to move to Texas in late 2020, but both my wife and daughter hated the idea.

I was truly blessed in finally buying a home last year, visited over 34 houses, made offers in 6, was the winner in only one. The housing crisis in Kali is real!

I guess I'm kinda stuck in here at least until retiring.

Must be a dream to have access to all the cool range toys. I guess the T-800s would appreciate the phase plasm rifles.
 

@cookiedough: the issue is if you find one killer deal after buying a gun in the previous week (either new or previously owned), you *cannot* buy it even if you have the money until the month is over.

Crazy Kali gun laws.

[MAD6Gun]

time to move outta CALI?   Is there really a need though to buy more than 1 firearm per month?

 Maybe not,but I sure want the ability to do so if I want. If I'm at the gun store to buy a gun and see something else I want I should be able to get it. California is a beautiful state but you couldn't pay me enough to ever move there. I wouldn't even visit at this point.

[Savago]

An example of the insanity of the gun roster in Kali.

A HK USP that should be priced new at 800-900 bucks is being sold for 1.5K (used!):
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1799903

An HK USP Expert that should cost 1K to $1.1K is going now for $2.2K because is 'off roster'!!!!
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1795297

To better understand:
https://thereload.com/california-suddenly-removes-all-models-of-popular-pistol-from-state-roster/


Keeping in mind that we are stuck with a drying list of allowed handguns that are like 20-25 years old.

[Psychotic Bovine]

time to move outta CALI?   Is there really a need though to buy more than 1 firearm per month?

 Maybe not,but I sure want the ability to do so if I want. If I'm at the gun store to buy a gun and see something else I want I should be able to get it.

"I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to." - Edgar Friendly

[Jess from VA]

Is there really a need though to buy more than 1 firearm per month?

Not often but:

The 2d amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  That's an infringement.

I've come home with 2-3 milsurp bolt rifles (from the best gun show in the country) in great shootable shape (for old beaters) and great prices.  I wasn't planning on starting a war or invading another country with them.

If a guy offered you two sweet firearms with an unbeatable package deal price, and you wanted them both, it'd be a shame to have to pass it up because the G would put you in jail for it.

You have triplets, and they are of an age you'd like to get each of them a single shot Cricket .22 for their birthdays, but you can't.  

[Chrisj CMA]

I feel like the shotgun I just bought finished my needs list.  It really is multiple weapons in one. With a 28” barrel it develops maximum pressures and the 3.5” chamber makes it a beast. Bird shot, 00 buck or slugs each do very different things especially with the removable/adjustable choke really gives the shooter lots of flexibility. Added to my other rifles and revolvers I can’t think of a gun I still need.

[Serk]

What to buy in case of a ban?

....a congressman..... 

Wish I could afford one....

[Savago]

What to buy in case of a ban?

....a congressman..... 

Wish I could afford one....

LOL! Very true, indeed.
 

[Tundra]

I feel like the shotgun I just bought finished my needs list.  It really is multiple weapons in one. With a 28” barrel it develops maximum pressures and the 3.5” chamber makes it a beast. Bird shot, 00 buck or slugs each do very different things especially with the removable/adjustable choke really gives the shooter lots of flexibility. Added to my other rifles and revolvers I can’t think of a gun I still need.

Wheel guns, lever actions in same caliber, shotgun. Know how to use them, all you'll ever need, reliable go bang everytime, never on any list...ever.

[Jess from VA]

I was never a fan of AKs (or ComBlock guns), but I was a fan of really cheap 7.62 X 39 imported ammo (whether steel core or lead).  The recent import ban dried that up some (or a lot).  

So I looked for a cheap way to shoot it and decided on an SKS rather than AK (which is designed as a full auto carbine, but isn't a great rifle).  The SKS is a better rifle with longer barrel, and always much cheaper than any AK variant (of which there are many).  Especially back in the good old days; around $90-150 (unless you wanted some rarer collector, and maybe the shorty paratrooper).

An added benefit of the SKS is that it comes standard with an attached/hinged/non-removable 10-rd magazine, which is below the radar/prohibitions of many state law restrictions.  You can get conversions to another attached/hinged 20 rd mag, or convert it to box mag feed, but that brought you back into state restrictions, or prohibitions.

Also not part of most state restrictions, it can rapidly be reloaded with 10 rd stripper clips the old fashioned way, nearly as fast as box mag changes (with practice).  

And they all came standard with pike or blade attached (swing down) bayonets which added more bad value on the import restriction numbers, but didn't disqualify it.  Some take them off (because they don't plan to be doing any bayonet charges when the ammo runs out), but shooting off-hand standing, the added weight up front is a plus to limit muzzle rise and controllable/repeatable shooting.  Even if you don't do any bayonet charges, that nasty spike up there would make it real difficult for anyone to get close to you.



It's not a world beating rifle for accuracy, but it is an effective combat/self defense rifle with good accuracy, that shoots (or used to) really cheap ammo.  And more accurate than AKs too. Mine has never jammed on any crummy ammo, so there's good reliability too.  And while it would never be a front line defensive rile (just like my .30 M1 Carbine) it would serve well as a 2d stringer self defense weapon for anyone.  And might still be legal to own (in your state) after others are banned.  

So other than the extreme ugly, what's not to like?  

Mine is a multi-color laminated stock Chinese in almost new condition (with a new original sling, and chest stripper clip carrier).  Fortunately I put away a supply of the cheap ammo back when it was out there.



And you can get an add on (cheap) rear peep sight that is much better than the original one forward of the action (for longer range elevations you will never use), for better combat accuracy.  And much easier on older eyes. https://www.tech-sights.com/sks-products/



10 rd strippers.


Chest carrier for them. (which of course you keep full of loaded strippers)


But the cheap and effective ammo was the entire reason for the purchase.

Anyone want to look at the SKS closer, here is the best historical website on them.
https://www.yooperj.com/SKS.htm

 

  

[Chrisj CMA]

I feel like the shotgun I just bought finished my needs list.  It really is multiple weapons in one. With a 28” barrel it develops maximum pressures and the 3.5” chamber makes it a beast. Bird shot, 00 buck or slugs each do very different things especially with the removable/adjustable choke really gives the shooter lots of flexibility. Added to my other rifles and revolvers I can’t think of a gun I still need.

Wheel guns, lever actions in same caliber, shotgun. Know how to use them, all you'll ever need, reliable go bang everytime, never on any list...ever.

xactly!!

[Psychotic Bovine]

I feel like the shotgun I just bought finished my needs list.  It really is multiple weapons in one. With a 28” barrel it develops maximum pressures and the 3.5” chamber makes it a beast. Bird shot, 00 buck or slugs each do very different things especially with the removable/adjustable choke really gives the shooter lots of flexibility. Added to my other rifles and revolvers I can’t think of a gun I still need.

Wheel guns, lever actions in same caliber, shotgun. Know how to use them, all you'll ever need, reliable go bang everytime, never on any list...ever.

Yet.

[Oss]

there is a place in hudson Ma where you can drive a sherman tank

There is another place where you can drive it AND fire its howitzer

Now that is cool

How do you carry a concealed Sherman ?

[Chrisj CMA]

there is a place in hudson Ma where you can drive a sherman tank

There is another place where you can drive it AND fire its howitzer

Now that is cool

How do you carry a concealed Sherman ?

You’d have to be Stacy Abrams

[h13man]

there is a place in hudson Ma where you can drive a sherman tank

There is another place where you can drive it AND fire its howitzer

Now that is cool

How do you carry a concealed Sherman ?

You’d have to be Stacy Abrams

 

[semo97]

sks with the peep sight like Jess showed. It was my truck gun and tractor gun, beat up, ugly, dirty as hell and would shot every time. As for ak 47, vietnam carry, in the chopper all the time, never checked out my issue m16. as for the ar15 ban dont think it will happen, they want to ban the look, but there is other semi autos out there. Put a regular stock on it, take the pistol grip off and put a smooth barrel on it and the gun haters would not know what it is.

[Skinhead]

time to move outta CALI?   Is there really a need though to buy more than 1 firearm per month?

Need has nothing to do with it.  Freedom is what matters.

[Chrisj CMA]

time to move outta CALI?   Is there really a need though to buy more than 1 firearm per month?

Need has nothing to do with it.  Freedom is what matters.

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say!  Any government that thinks they have the right to tell us what we need and don’t need should be abolished

[Serk]

[old2soon]

there is a place in hudson Ma where you can drive a sherman tank

There is another place where you can drive it AND fire its howitzer

Now that is cool

How do you carry a concealed Sherman ?

           Paint it pink and put those headlight eye lashes on the front?  RIDE SAFE.