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« on: July 02, 2022, 03:22:22 AM »

Your home is near an industrial area, a forest or overgrown neighbor's property and lightning strikes, there's a fire.   You call 911 and notify the fire department and this rolls up.

Check Out the First Electric Fire Truck in the US

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Electric vehicles are sweeping the nation, but how long until they’re used for everything? It looks like fire trucks are next on the list. With models like the Tesla Semi truck looming, it was only a matter of time before fire departments went electric with their fire engines. Check out the first electric fire truck in the US.

According to Electrek, the Los Angeles City Fire Department has deployed the first electric fire truck in North America. It’s the Rosenbauer RTX, built by the Austrian fire engine manufacturer. In 2019, the company took a prototype on tour across North America to show it to various fire departments. Although others tried to get one first, the LAFD secured the first production model.

As a result, the LAFD recently received the truck and debuted it this weekend. There’s an electric model in a fleet of fire engines for the first time. Moreover, the City of Los Angeles Fire Chief, Kristin Crowley, said this about the new big red EV:

“It will reduce noise, and bring it basically to nothing in regards to diesel emissions. We will actually create the space for our firefighters to be healthier around our fire engines.”

The first electric fire truck in the US starts at $900,000. However, the version of the truck the LAFD configured and purchased was more expensive, costing the department $1,200,000. For that reason, it’s unlikely you’ll see EV fire engines at most local fire departments any time soon. For now, they’re reserved for big-city departments with the kind of funding that allows for the change.

Rosenbauer says its electric truck uses a 360 kW electric powertrain and a 132 kWh battery pack. As a result, it’ll be operable for around two hours per charge. Additionally, it still includes all the fire engine equipment you’d expect. Like a 1,000′, 5″ hose and a 1,000′, 2.5″ hose. Next, it uses an adjustable air suspension, providing ground clearance between 7- and 19-inches. Finally, its water tank holds between 500 and 750 gallons depending on the configuration. For pumping the liquid out, it uses a pump with a capacity of 750 to 1,500 GPM.

Like fire trucks, we already have electric police vehicles on the horizon. The NYPD will soon be using one highly-coveted new EV model. More specifically, the Ford Mustang Mach-E will become a regular part of the police fleet. Other models, like from Tesla, have been used for the same purpose. With laws changing for fuel consumption, many more EVs will enter the workforce in the coming years. We’d expect entirely electric fleets within the next 5 to 10 years.

In conclusion, the first electric fire truck is a step toward a more eco-friendly large vehicle. With semi-trucks going electric, we figured it was only a matter of time before fire departments gained something similar. The LAFD debuted an electric fire truck in its fleet for the first time. However, it cost them $1.2 million, so we wouldn’t expect to see them in many other places for quite some time.

TWO HOURS PER CHARGE?   I guess they'll only go to smaller fires...  Maybe they carry a BIG portable generator?  So, they answer a call and go put out a fire, how long to recharge so they can go out again?    2, 4, 6, 8 hours?   Wait, wouldn't that kind of skew the whole idea?  question

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2022, 05:34:10 AM »

This is for the crew that goes out to get kittens out of trees and for other publicity stunts…and as you said small fires… like barbecue grills and fire pits. Maybe a new law will be passed saying the fire truck will be legally permitted to plug-in to any building for extended use during a structure fire.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2022, 05:37:08 AM »

Yeah, no.

Nice looking 1.2 million show piece.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2022, 08:02:27 AM »

This is for the crew that goes out to get kittens out of trees and for other publicity stunts…and as you said small fires… like barbecue grills and fire pits. Maybe a new law will be passed saying the fire truck will be legally permitted to plug-in to any building for extended use during a structure fire.

May have missed it, but where are the ladders?   Looks like what one would expect to see at a vehicle fire or maybe a really big high rise.

2 hours of use, not good.   Would that also include the travel to the fire and back.  Where I live, the nearest station is 15 minutes away.  That means it could only fight the fire for an hour and half. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2022, 12:52:45 PM »

Since I have never really been a "fire fighter" (just stuff learned in the Boy Scouts and Navy) I had always been enamored with the diesel fire trucks.  

It was my understanding that they could run forever, just as long as they had fuel.  No need to swap them out at a "big" fire.

If they above is true, you now have "electric" fire trucks that have limited usage times since they have to be charged.  

Know what the liberals answer would be to that statement??????    "Hey we have a generator that we can dispatch to keep the trucks operational. No problem.  

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2022, 01:19:43 PM »

  "Hey we have a generator that we can dispatch to keep the trucks operational. No problem.   

Pretty much what I was thinking, though it would cut the amount of battery power at the fire scene, they could tow one of those big industrial generators behind the fire truck.   Of course, it's gonna be diesel powered.   coolsmiley

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2022, 02:09:11 PM »

Million dollar fire trucks burning up from their own batteries.

That's pure irony.   
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2022, 02:33:27 PM »

On another board there is a post about "Electric Vehicles" and how several countries are outlawing the selling of "fossil fueled vehicles by 2030 and 2035 (just eight (Cool years away).

The reason, to limit pollution. 

Let me be very, very clear, this is "balderdash".

(Balderdash https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/balderdash)

You want an electric car, go buy one.   

And in case you wondered, electric cars need to be charged and that requires electricity and that is produced today (90%) by fossil fuels and nuclear.   

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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2022, 04:10:47 PM »

Always seems to be windy around a fire so maybe one of them windmill generators would work to keep the truck charged.

You could even have a steam powered generator. Get to the fire, throw it in the fire, steam to run the turbine, and electricity! Half the guys will keep the fire hot so the other half can put it out with ELECTRICITY!

If the fire is really bright, solar panels!

"We need to keep the building burning so we can put it out" Government in a nutshell right there.





















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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2022, 04:21:37 PM »

Well, one would hope there's some reason (other than the fire fighters not breathing diesel fumes) that got this battery powered fire truck bought for $1.2M.   I mean seriously, they all carry/use tanks and masks when fighting fires and that's when that "diesel" is running mostly.

I'd hate to think this is some Greenie thing just to make some tree huggers happy.

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