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Author Topic: MC tire ratings  (Read 1861 times)
msb
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« on: October 19, 2022, 06:09:55 PM »

I've always run matching tires on my Interstate for the 21 years I've had it...the last 12 or so with Avons. Not happy with how the Rear of my Avon Chrome wore right from the get go (was my first set of the newer Chromes). The front has worn great, have at least another full season if not two left on it, so now I'm looking to replace just the rear this Fall.
Question...does anyone concern themselves about running a 77H rated MC tire along with a 77V rated one? Of course all the MC & tire techs say not to when researching, but I don't see how a 145 mph rating and 130 mph rating differ much since the old Valk won't be getting anywhere close to those speeds. Since 180/70R16 Chromes are O/S here in Canada at my preferred suppliers, I was thinking of trying a Journey as they're readily available and about 100 bucks less...its a 77"H" rated tire as opposed to the Avon 77"V".

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Mike

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2022, 09:45:04 PM »

I’ve run plenty of H tires. I think you’d have to be Kenny Roberts to be able to tell a difference.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2022, 04:49:18 AM »

Higher speed rated tires tend to be made of softer compounds and tends to be stiffer to maintain shape at the higher speeds it is rated for.

An H tire is more than adequate and will likely last longer.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2022, 09:04:53 AM »

H rated tires are recomented for heavy weight cruisers because of the stiffer sidewalls, they give you a smoother ride and better cornering. You can run a bias tire front or rear with radial tire, the only time you can't do this is when try to do this on the same axle.  The major differents between radial and bias tire is how fast the tire heats up and cools down, the radial cools faster then the bias, this is important because the repeated heating and cooling changes the chemical balance of the tire over a period of time.
        To answer your question, the higher rated tire will heat up faster so that the tire has a better grip of the road, but being a softer compound will wear faster. you are right about the 145 diffence to 130 nothing to worry about.  Myself I'd run the same rated tire front and rear.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2022, 04:08:05 PM »

C’mon buddy. You gotta fess up and show the pic of that rear tire  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2022, 06:26:44 PM »

C’mon buddy. You gotta fess up and show the pic of that rear tire  Grin
Haha...Nope!! I've made too many others feel bad for letting their tires get down to a dangerous wear level. Can't let any visual evidence get out there that may lead others to believe that I'm anything less than perfect when it comes to monitoring my own tire wear  Grin

Got the new 77H Journey ordered and should have it by next week Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2022, 05:08:33 AM »

I’m running a set of Journeys for the past season. I like them would recommend if you don’t want to spend a lot more for premium tires.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2022, 08:18:42 AM »

C’mon buddy. You gotta fess up and show the pic of that rear tire  Grin
Haha...Nope!! I've made too many others feel bad for letting their tires get down to a dangerous wear level. Can't let any visual evidence get out there that may lead others to believe that I'm anything less than perfect when it comes to monitoring my own tire wear  Grin

Got the new 77H Journey ordered and should have it by next week Smiley

if not riding in the rain and/or wet surfaces, then only riding on the cords is a dangerous wear level.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2022, 09:02:39 AM »

never run bias on rear and radial on front. vise verse is safe to do. There are a few motorcycles that actually came and do presently come from the factory with radial on rear and bias on front.
https://www.rideapart.com/news/246058/the-motorcycle-tire-question-radial-bias-or-both/

I run a radial CT on rear and Bias rear on front on my std/tourer with I/S tank. first time I did this was with a ContiGo bias V-rated 130/90-17 on front. zero problems at any speed even when I changed it at 28k miles at the wear bars.
Right now I have a bias Dunlop D404 in front, same CT. nice tire will get maybe 22-24k miles from it. It is H-rated and that is the problem, has to be at max PSI on sidewall of 41, otherwise will get a bad wobble at 90mph when passing somebody. Even had the wobble at that speed if going over not a real smooth expansion joint when changing lanes. 80mph and below never had a problem even with less air pressure. the carcass cords are of stronger materials for a V-rated than the H-rated tire.
others on here have mentioned wobble issues sometimes with the D404.
my conclusion I will only use a V-rated tire on the front from now one.
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