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Peteg
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« on: December 07, 2022, 11:46:19 AM »

I put about 900 miles on my 1998 standard that I bought last month with 36,000 miles on the clock. The suspension is amazing. It tracks through the curves like a rocket on rails, and doesn't get pushed around in the wind, or by bad pavement. I'm not really sure why my Honda manual says don't put anymore than 400 lbs on the bike. I weight 145 lbs. I haven't taken the rear shocks off level 1 and the bike doesn't seem to care if my wife climbs on the back. She can't do that on either of my smaller bikes that are rated to carry more load.

Anyway I normally don't touch anything that seems perfect, but I'm thinking about removing the caps and seeing what I suck out, then replace what comes out with new, just to see what's in the the 24 year old machine. I'll do the total disassembly change if things look ugly. I'm just looking for an opinion. I don't see an oil change interval in the Honda manual. How far do people generally go without touching the forks?
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The emperor has no clothes
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2022, 12:00:04 PM »

I don’t know if it’s wise or not. But I’ve got a 2001 Standard that’s never had it’s fork oil changed. They still seem pretty flawless to me.
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sandy
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2022, 01:34:41 PM »

If they’re not leaking and the ride is good, don’t bother.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2022, 06:02:45 AM »

Age and how it was stored over the years will determine how long these seal last. 2,500 mi. a year usage is pretty good for keeping the seals conditioned. My 99' with 47,000 are just now needing replaced and I changed the fluid and springs @ 20,000. Mine was garage queen in its previous life. I suggest OEM seals and components when the time comes. Welcome to the community.
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da prez
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2022, 07:14:58 AM »

  If you do seals , FYI , Honda oem seals. I have installed others with bad results. If I install after market for a customer who purchased them , I have a signed paper that I am not liable for failure.

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Peteg
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2022, 06:32:27 AM »

Thanks for all the input. I heard these bikes run forever, but I never expected to be happy with the suspension without touching it. I have a little Triumph that I bought new in 2016. My wife and I ride it together pretty often. By the time it had 5,000 miles on it, it was getting blown around on the highway and was terrible on a curve if the road surface was at all rough. I completely upgraded the suspension which solve all the problems, but as good as it handles it still couldn't keep up with the Val around a curve with any imperfections in road surface. Maybe it could keep up on a track. Recently I blew a seal on a rear shock, so my Triumph is on it's third set of rear shocks in less than 25,000 miles.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2023, 07:47:13 PM »

I put about 900 miles on my 1998 standard that I bought last month with 36,000 miles on the clock. The suspension is amazing. It tracks through the curves like a rocket on rails, and doesn't get pushed around in the wind, or by bad pavement. I'm not really sure why my Honda manual says don't put anymore than 400 lbs on the bike. I weight 145 lbs. I haven't taken the rear shocks off level 1 and the bike doesn't seem to care if my wife climbs on the back. She can't do that on either of my smaller bikes that are rated to carry more load.

Anyway I normally don't touch anything that seems perfect, but I'm thinking about removing the caps and seeing what I suck out, then replace what comes out with new, just to see what's in the the 24 year old machine. I'll do the total disassembly change if things look ugly. I'm just looking for an opinion. I don't see an oil change interval in the Honda manual. How far do people generally go without touching the forks?

I know I'm late to this old thread but just now finding out you have my old bike I can tell you I put new fork seals and Lucas synthetic oil in June of 2021.  There's wasn't many miles put on after replacing them.  Original bushings were left in place and re-used.
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2023, 06:40:58 AM »

Timbo, thanks for the input. The bike runs and handles great. Do you know if the bike has had many owners? It really seems like a well maintained garage princess. I'm a little different than most, don't like a really loud bike. I pulled the baffles on the Cobra 6 into 6's and wrapped them with Drag Specialties  Muffler Packing which got the rumble down to a level that's much better for my wife and I. I probably had about 250 miles on it when I installed the packing. It seemed like the idle dropped about 50 rpms and got a touch rough, so I push the idle back up. It still runs great & has perfect plugs, but I think the mileage dropped a couple of MPG. I see the desmog was done and was wondering if the bike was rejetted for the 6 into 6. I know everyone rides differently, but with very little data it seemed like it could get 35 mpg before I packed the baffles but got consistently around 31 mpg after. I started riding it really slow and smooth recently so I can make my wife happy if we take a trip soon. It seems like I'll get around 33 mpg if I shift really early and use the torque down in the 2000 rpm range as apposed to the power above 2500 rpms. Once it's over 50 mph in 5th it's all over, could use a 6th. She definitely goes when you wind her up.

On another subject we live in North Texas about 40 miles from the Red River near Denton. I ride up near the Red River to the Texoma area regularly. The back roads are really nice and you hardly see a car. One of our favorite short trips is Medicine Park Ok. Wife and I love to hike in the Wildlife Preserve. We take back roads up - Saint Jo tx, Indian bridge, Ringling, Comanche, Medicine Park.
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2023, 09:19:58 AM »

Timbo, thanks for the input. The bike runs and handles great. Do you know if the bike has had many owners? It really seems like a well maintained garage princess. I'm a little different than most, don't like a really loud bike. I pulled the baffles on the Cobra 6 into 6's and wrapped them with Drag Specialties  Muffler Packing which got the rumble down to a level that's much better for my wife and I. I probably had about 250 miles on it when I installed the packing. It seemed like the idle dropped about 50 rpms and got a touch rough, so I push the idle back up. It still runs great & has perfect plugs, but I think the mileage dropped a couple of MPG. I see the desmog was done and was wondering if the bike was rejetted for the 6 into 6. I know everyone rides differently, but with very little data it seemed like it could get 35 mpg before I packed the baffles but got consistently around 31 mpg after. I started riding it really slow and smooth recently so I can make my wife happy if we take a trip soon. It seems like I'll get around 33 mpg if I shift really early and use the torque down in the 2000 rpm range as apposed to the power above 2500 rpms. Once it's over 50 mph in 5th it's all over, could use a 6th. She definitely goes when you wind her up.

On another subject we live in North Texas about 40 miles from the Red River near Denton. I ride up near the Red River to the Texoma area regularly. The back roads are really nice and you hardly see a car. One of our favorite short trips is Medicine Park Ok. Wife and I love to hike in the Wildlife Preserve. We take back roads up - Saint Jo tx, Indian bridge, Ringling, Comanche, Medicine Park.


I believe the guy I got it from was the second owner.  While he had it in a garage it sat according to him for a couple years due to his travel for work.   It was garaged the entire time I had it.

I installed All Balls standard needles & jets in late 2020 to early 2021.  It does have IS springs installed which seemed to let it rev quicker than my other Valk but other than that carbs are stock.  When I got it, it had standard jets but 3 different size needles.  The guy I bought from said someone had rebuilt the carbs before he let it sit.

The Cobra pipes on it are what came with it when I got it.  While i don't like the sound or the drone on long trips my wife likes that other drivers are more aware of us due to the roar.  If you keep your eyes open you could pickup some stock pipes on Ebay or maybe even here in classifieds.

As far as mpg it seems if you keep the rpm down say under 3k the better the mpg.   One of the reasons I traded that in was due to a trip I took on my other Valk where I was getting 20-25 mpg when we were running pretty hard.  But under normal riding conditions I'd say to expect high 20's to low 30's.

I'm familiar with Denton.  In my younger years I raced go karts and Denton kart track was part of our regional race schedule.  I held track record for my class (KT100 Heavy) for a brief period of time although never won a race. Smiley

I'm glad your enjoying it and hope you & your wife have many safe trouble free miles with it.




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Peteg
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2023, 06:13:06 PM »

 Timbo Thanks for the great work and the detailed response. That really answers a lot of questions for me. The exact color match on the paint will be helpful too.
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