Noise in drivline when riding

[gl1000dude]

My 1997 Valk is making a noise when driving/rolling. kind of bearing or transmission sound.  The sound is probably coming from the engine. I have replaced everything from universal joint to bearings i backwheel. Also tried another final drive. Im tinking about the bearing on ouput shaft. The noise is there i all gears, when clutch is pulled and in neutral. Any suggestions?

I have read a lot of articles on the forum but I cant find anyone that concluded that it was this bearing.

[Jims99]

Does it make noise when rolling, engine off?  Break pads will also make noise due to drilled rotors.

[Avanti]

Balancing beads can be heard when slow rolling.

[gl1000dude]

Does it make noise when rolling, engine off?  Break pads will also make noise due to drilled rotors.

Yes, noise when rolling and engine off. Removed brake pads earlier, still noise.

[gl1000dude]

Balancing beads can be heard when slow rolling.

The noise is there at low speed but is more noticeable at higher speeds

[sandy]

Check your U Joint.

[gl1000dude]

Check your U Joint.

Tanks for suggestion.

Yupp, have replaced with new.
Have changed evrything from U Joint and backwards

[Avanti]

Lift up motorcycle and hand turn/spin each wheel separately. Look for anything that might be rubbing.

[Valker]

Did some “friend” drop a rock inside one of the holes in the wheel?

[hubcapsc]

Did some “friend” drop a rock inside one of the holes in the wheel?

I had taken my metal valve stem cap with its integral valve stem remover
off the valve stem and was about to use it when it slipped from my fingers.
It went right through one of those holes, nothing but net... I was afraid it
would make a noise, but it doesn't... rocks or something might though... spin
the wheel when it is off the bike and listen for the sound...

-Mike

[Skinhead]

Romeo chased a similar issue, turned out to be the output shaft bearing.

https://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,86685.msg859917.html#msg859917

[Avanti]

Output bearing
Never said how they came to that conclusion and never said it fixed it.

[Skinhead]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed output shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

[gl1000dude]

Lift up motorcycle and hand turn/spin each wheel separately. Look for anything that might be rubbing.

Already checked 

[gl1000dude]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed putto shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

Thanks.
I think I have eliminated everything else. Bought the bike two years ago with a exhaust with cut piggies - a lot of noise. With a MarkT exhaust I can hear all the noises that should not be there.
I live in Norway but the bike came from US (2021)

How many miles on your bike when this happend?

1. So all you replaced was one bearing? (se picture below nr. 12 - partnr: 91002MN5003
2. Did you follow the instructions in the workshop manual or some guide ex. on this forum?
3. Du you have a list for the special tools needed?
4. What other parts need to be ordered? (gaskets, lock nuts , etc ?

Thanks in advance.

[gl1000dude]

 

Did some “friend” drop a rock inside one of the holes in the wheel?

 

[Skinhead]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed putto shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

Thanks.
I think I have eliminated everything else. Bought the bike two years ago with a exhaust with cut piggies - a lot of noise. With a MarkT exhaust I can hear all the noises that should not be there.
I live in Norway but the bike came from US (2021)

How many miles on your bike when this happend?

1. So all you replaced was one bearing? (se picture below nr. 12 - partnr: 91002MN5003
2. Did you follow the instructions in the workshop manual or some guide ex. on this forum?
3. Du you have a list for the special tools needed?
4. What other parts need to be ordered? (gaskets, lock nuts , etc ?

Thanks in advance.

I just got back from having lunch (and a few adult beverages) with Romeo, and I asked him to post the resolution, and some photos to this issue.  There are special tools listed in the manual, but we used some that were fabricated by MI members.  If you are mechanically inclined, you should be able to figure out how to make your repairs.  If not follow the manual and buy the special tools. 

Basically what we found was that the retainer that keeps the balls in position failed, replacing the bearing fixed the problem.  I hope Romeo will post the fix on the thread I provided.

[98valk]

check the side covers of the exhaust. sometimes they get loose, the tab connections esp if the rubber boot is missing.
they will rattle.

[Jess from VA]

One of the things I've done to find (non running engine/trans) noise is put it on the lift then go around methodically shaking, wiggling, tapping with rubber mallet (spin wheels as mentioned) to try to find where it is coming from.

A bike-knowledgeable passenger on the back seat might have better ears too (while you do the driving).

An intermittent click drove me crazy; a rock in the tire tread.   

[Ramie]

This doesn't help but I just noticed a strange knocking noise that I could feel while driving my Silverado.  It turned out to be some loose bolts on the drivers side running board.

[The emperor has no clothes]

If I understand correctly, the noise (no vibration?) is there with all speeds, bike running or not, clutch engaged or disengaged. If that’s the case, I don’t see how it would be engine related. It would seem to me it’s got to be wheel, tire, brake related. Or something loose that is vibrating while in motion. Have you inspected the rubber pad inside the front fender ? Physically inspected all the wheel bearings ? A long shot would be tire noise. Each brand seems to have their own sound.

[gl1000dude]

If I understand correctly, the noise (no vibration?) is there with all speeds, bike running or not, clutch engaged or disengaged. If that’s the case, I don’t see how it would be engine related. It would seem to me it’s got to be wheel, tire, brake related. Or something loose that is vibrating while in motion. Have you inspected the rubber pad inside the front fender ? Physically inspected all the wheel bearings ? A long shot would be tire noise. Each brand seems to have their own sound.

I have been chasing this noise for over a year. Have tried most of the tips I have found on this forum and my own experience. I think the only ting I have not tried is another front tire.
 
I can feel some vibration in the right peg. I also bought a stethoscope and can hear a lot of noise from the otput shaft area when rolling/riding- but I dont know what is normal.

[gl1000dude]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed putto shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

I just got back from having lunch (and a few adult beverages) with Romeo, and I asked him to post the resolution, and some photos to this issue.  There are special tools listed in the manual, but we used some that were fabricated by MI members.  If you are mechanically inclined, you should be able to figure out how to make your repairs.  If not follow the manual and buy the special tools. 

Basically what we found was that the retainer that keeps the balls in position failed, replacing the bearing fixed the problem.  I hope Romeo will post the fix on the thread I provided.

I think I can manage this operation, but planning is important
I will wait and see if Romeo responds 

BTW: Had some homebrew yesterday 

[Chrisj CMA]

Outstanding work!  It’s great to hear of guys tackling the harder jobs and succeeding!!

[Avanti]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed putto shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

Thank you for giving the finished results to the thread.

[Avanti]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed putto shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

Thanks.
I think I have eliminated everything else. Bought the bike two years ago with a exhaust with cut piggies - a lot of noise. With a MarkT exhaust I can hear all the noises that should not be there.
I live in Norway but the bike came from US (2021)

How many miles on your bike when this happend?

1. So all you replaced was one bearing? (se picture below nr. 12 - partnr: 91002MN5003
2. Did you follow the instructions in the workshop manual or some guide ex. on this forum?
3. Du you have a list for the special tools needed?
4. What other parts need to be ordered? (gaskets, lock nuts , etc ?

Thanks in advance.

I just got back from having lunch (and a few adult beverages) with Romeo, and I asked him to post the resolution, and some photos to this issue.  There are special tools listed in the manual, but we used some that were fabricated by MI members.  If you are mechanically inclined, you should be able to figure out how to make your repairs.  If not follow the manual and buy the special tools. 

Basically what we found was that the retainer that keeps the balls in position failed, replacing the bearing fixed the problem.  I hope Romeo will post the fix on the thread I provided.

So it needs to be repaired before the ball bearings pile up and cause more damage such as cracking the case.

[gl1000dude]

It did fix it.  How we came to that conclusion is we eliminated all else and removed engine and removed the rear cover and clutch. Removed putto shaft bearing and could feel roughness.  Replaced the bearing and no more noise.

Thanks.
I think I have eliminated everything else. Bought the bike two years ago with a exhaust with cut piggies - a lot of noise. With a MarkT exhaust I can hear all the noises that should not be there.
I live in Norway but the bike came from US (2021)

How many miles on your bike when this happend?

1. So all you replaced was one bearing? (se picture below nr. 12 - partnr: 91002MN5003
2. Did you follow the instructions in the workshop manual or some guide ex. on this forum?
3. Du you have a list for the special tools needed?
4. What other parts need to be ordered? (gaskets, lock nuts , etc ?

Thanks in advance.

I just got back from having lunch (and a few adult beverages) with Romeo, and I asked him to post the resolution, and some photos to this issue.  There are special tools listed in the manual, but we used some that were fabricated by MI members.  If you are mechanically inclined, you should be able to figure out how to make your repairs.  If not follow the manual and buy the special tools. 

Basically what we found was that the retainer that keeps the balls in position failed, replacing the bearing fixed the problem.  I hope Romeo will post the fix on the thread I provided.

So it needs to be repaired before the ball bearings pile up and cause more damage such as cracking the case.

I have a job to do

Hope for tips (Romeo?)  I will start getting the tools (special) needed for the job

[Romeo]

Skinhead informed me about the conversation here, so I’d thought I’d chime in.
I chased this crazy noise for a couple years on my 99 Tourer. It was a strange grinding sort of a noise that I heard while moving down the road. It seemed to change as my speed changed. In the beginning, it was not noticeable with the bike in neutral and just revving the motor. This led me down the wrong path for quite awhile. Once it started to get worse it was noticeable pretty much all the time, but was still a lot worse when the engine was under load. I got so frustrated with not being able to find it, I actually went out and bought an Interstate, and just parked the Tourer in the garage, after a year or so, we decided to pull the motor and start disassembling it. We pulled the clutch cover and removed the clutch as well as the rear case, exposing the output shaft. I found a bearing on the output shaft that is captivated by a plate, that the ball cage had disintegrated. Below is a picture of the bearing.
. Ok, don’t think that worked. Hopefully you have Facebook so you can go there to look at the picture. I’ll put it up on the VRCC Facebook page. Maybe the VRCC should join the 21 st century and update this site so it’s a little easier for us dumbshits to upload pictures. Just a suggestion.

[Skinhead]

Me, not being as big a dumbshit as Romeo, was able to post his picture from Facebook.  Thank you for your support.