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Rio Wil
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« on: January 30, 2010, 10:44:05 PM »

Has anyone come up with a rear tire of equal or one size larger than the oem (150-80-17) front tire size. I am still looking to extend the mileage of the front tire. 
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shortleg
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 07:25:09 AM »

   Go to the goldwing site and take a look.
 A few of the trike guys do just that, the trick is
that they mount them backwards.
          Shortleg[Dave]
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Pete
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2010, 08:16:25 AM »

Having done this on a KZ1300 and a V65 Sabre.

On the KZ1300 I went 110-90 to 120-90, worked fine larger, lasted much longer etc.
On the V65 Sabre I went 110-90 to 120-80, worked fine larger, lasted much longer etc.

   
D103 160/70-17 REAR is available but check actual height, width to be absolute sure that it is actually larger and will still fit and clear every thing.

Now for the bad news - it may be wise to NEVER remove both hands from the bars, since the rears on the front, introduce at best a mild shake,weave with no hands. One hand always dampened the shake for me - your results may be different - different bike, different tire so test it carefully.

Good luck, Pete.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2010, 08:47:38 AM »

Has anyone come up with a rear tire of equal or one size larger than the oem (150-80-17) front tire size. I am still looking to extend the mileage of the front tire. 

Well, you're correct! There certainly isn't much out there. That's a result of the manufacturer (Honda) trying to maintain control over everything. Originally the Honda dealer was the only source for a front tire on the Valkyrie.

And there are differences between front and rear tires also. My experience shows that front tires have lesser tread depth when compared to rear tires. They also have different compounds for the front and rear tires. Engineered for durability and safety they will say. Mileage is a low priority I would think.

The prices of motorcycle tires have risen out of proportion to any other item and are becoming prohibitively expensive. If I could fit a car tire on the front I would probably give it a try.

I've a Shinko in the garage that I got a good deal on last year and have it waiting for when I need to change out the front.  What I don't want to do is go with a smaller front tire. That is what most rear on the front tire exchanges have had to do. Go with a smaller tire.

If you find a good rear tire that matches the size, I'd sure encourage you to post that information. There are many that would welcome finding out about that particular changeover.

In the meantime I just keep an eye out for a good deal and will continue to buy when a deal comes along. The miles never stop piling up on my Valkyrie so I'm sure I will use all the tires I purchase.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2010, 10:18:38 AM »

Hey Rio,
I put a Dunlop d404 130/90/17.  I also mounted it to rotate counter to the directional arrow.
It has at least twice the tread depth and I haven't felt any difference in handling unless maybe if you like to ride at three digits.  I also think because of tread depth and/or compound that the ride is "softer" up front.  I'm sure you can get the specific speedometer variance with the different circumference tires from others in this forum or the Darksider's forum.
I figure that the Darkside on rear and rear tire on front should last around 20k miles but as others will chime in, don't forget to service your final drive (grease splines)at 10k.

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Valker
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2010, 10:25:13 AM »

I'm running the same rear tire as one post up. It looks like it will last 40,000 miles as I can't tell it has worn at all yet with about 13,000 on it. Handles perfectly.
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Hoser
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2010, 05:28:00 PM »

Dunlop makes a bias ply D404 front in the proper size for a Valk, might be a good match for a car tire. see link
http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tirecatalog_tire.asp?id=37
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Rio Wil
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2010, 08:33:41 PM »

I am currently running a E3 and with 10K miles it looks like it might go another 2-3K.  Its interesting that the E3 is about .7 inches larger in diameter than the D404  front or rear (per Dunlops site)....That will just further piss me off about the speedo inaccuracy.  Did it ever occurr to anyone at Honda that if they could consistantly make speedo's that read about 8% high, they could make speedo's that read 8% less and dad-gum if they would not be dead on....not that hard especially with the i/s....and not that difficult even with the mechanical one.

 Elite 3 Radial Front
 150/80R17     72H         26.77     5/32     783 @ 41
D404 Front
 150/80-17      72H       25.97     5/32      783 @ 41
D404 Rear
130/90-17        68H       25.97      9/32      694 @ 41
Avon
Cobra AV71 (front)   
 150/80R17           72H         26.5    5/32          672

Maybe installing another 150/80/17 would get me through the next 4-5 months and then put the 130-90-17 on for a extended trip up north....might be nice to have the extra thread thickness for a cushion on gravel roads/repairs.

Sure was hoping someone knew of a "one size larger" rear that would fit...must not be Christmas yet....chuckle

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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 12:22:51 AM »

Rio, if you do decide to run the rear tire on the front make sure you reverse its rotation.

Marty
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 04:39:35 PM »

Rio, if you do decide to run the rear tire on the front make sure you reverse its rotation.

Marty


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Rio Wil
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2010, 05:12:50 PM »

think it has something to do with the way the plys in the tire are laid down and torque direction, but  i am hungry and the wife said din-din is ready and i am outta here....Shocked)

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2010, 05:33:34 PM »

I'm running a Dunlop E-II K491 bias ply rear on the front - tread is twice as deep as normal front tires and more aggressive.  Handling is excellent.  I did not mount it backwards.  I disagree with the theories I've heard about that, per the tread pattern - but the cord overlaps vs. rotation makes sense to me.  I do not ride at triple digit speeds, though I do get close.  No handling problems at all.  There was talk for a short while that they were going to discontinue this tire - then they didn't.  The tread is a little deeper than the 404.  You can see the K491 in the front in this pic. 
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2010, 05:36:03 PM »

Hey guys Hi u´doing ?
I am just wondering if somebody can assist me to get a white wall tires for my Valk, I´ve been looking for them unsucessfully ¡¡¡ Appreciate your support

Regards

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Rio Wil
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 06:26:33 PM »

here ya go:

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/3/31/402/6033/ITEM/Dunlop-Cruisemax-Whitewall-Front-Tire.aspx?SiteID=CSE_Nextag_402&WT.mc_ID=80005&zmam=88421133&zmas=1&zmac=4&zmap=6033
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Rio Wil
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2010, 06:49:10 PM »

MartT, I am not finding that E-II in 17 inch.....any pointers?
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2010, 04:13:36 AM »

Here is a rear tire for the front in the correct size. hoser It's a Shenko
712 REAR
STREET / CRUISER TIRE
The 712 Rear was designed for mileage and performance—without the high price tag. A staggered, positive ration tread pattern ignores highway rain and provides excellent wet weather adhesion. Other features include:

•H rated (130 mph)
•Tubeless, 4 ply nylon carcass
•Lateral grooves increase inline stability
•DOT approved
Size Retail Price
 
140/90-15 80.95
130/90-16 71.95
130/90-17 76.95
150/70-17 84.95 X
110/90-18 58.95
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MP
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2010, 05:58:27 AM »

Thanks, hoser.  I think that is the first one in oem size I have seen.

MP
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2010, 06:07:55 AM »

It should work well with a car tire.  JCW has it in thier catalog. Has a pic in the Shinko web site  Smiley hoser
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Jack
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2010, 03:39:24 AM »

Thanks, I needed a tire and just stopped in to see what was available.  Ordered the 712 from JCW.
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2010, 09:37:46 AM »

Here is a rear tire for the front in the correct size. hoser It's a Shenko
712


Isn't the stock size for the front 150 80 17?

The Shenko 712 listed here is    150 70 17.
This would be a little shorter tire, don't know how much difference it would make.  Undecided
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