pdorman
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« on: May 18, 2023, 11:22:43 AM » |
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Hello gang, thought I would throw this out there since some may be able to take advantage of the information. Especially one's like me that know dang well they won't be pulling the carbs off to send them out and then put them back on... (Just saying, I know that's not popular but more realistic than you think)
I live in the Kansas City area and know others in Arkansas, Texas, Iowa and Oklahoma that have been in the need for this service and stuck trying to find local shops to help knowing the Honda dealerships won't touch these bikes any longer. It would be nice to have a list of people that can help and the general areas they work in.
Thoughts ????
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2023, 11:29:10 AM » |
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There's a couple of guys, one in OK, who have ads that run at the top of the
page. There's a guy near me in South Carolina and some others
on this board who will probably chime in if they see your thread...
-Mike
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pdorman
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2023, 08:42:20 AM » |
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Thanks Mike, I know Bob in OK has a ton on his plate at this time and was hoping for a chime in from someone that could R&R the carbs that wouldn't be too far away to trailer the bike and leave it there. I know it's not a quick job and would expect it to take a few weeks to pull, rebuild, reinstall and run the bike. I'm in the Kansas City area and have seen other Valks around but not sure who will work on them any longer. I had Bon Shaw help me out a few years ago but I think he's off RV'ing in retirement land now.
Ride Safe All.
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Mooskee
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2023, 10:40:06 AM » |
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I think he needs someone to remove and replace the carbs and either rebuild them or send them out. So is there anyone in his area that can R&R his carbs? Big BF left a big hole when he passed. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2023, 12:18:49 PM » |
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Great bike mechanics, of the "old school" variety, are slowly all dying off. The "big" shops won't touch anything unless it has fuel injection these days. But they WILL set you up with a brand new bike!! That is their goal afterall. Most of the Kids in these shops today, probably have never even been into a carburetor?? They just pop in a new injector(s), or change out the ECU. All "plug and play" these days. Yes.....it has gotten to the point, that if you cannot do the carburetor work yourself.....it is time for a new fangled bike?? SAD to say.......but that is how it is.......  |
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2023, 03:16:53 PM » |
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New fangled can still leave you sitting on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2023, 10:56:05 PM » |
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May not be the MOST help but where I live there is Neihaus Cycles in Litchfield IL about 280 miles from you a Honda Powerhouse they have a "Valkyrie Guy" here and they will service a old Valkyrie the same as my 21 Goldwing... just ride it in... discussed carbs and all the other stuff previously and they didn't even blink it was no problem, I just got back from riding my bike out to Dave Wilder in NC where he rebuilt and rehabbed all the stuff so I am good for the moment but Neihaus does all the work on the Wing and my 2014 when I had it, They will work on my 98 as well if needed
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2023, 08:37:35 AM » |
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The guys you send your carbs to have the easy part. All they have to do is clean and rebuild them. The customer does most the work. Removal, installation, adjustments, synchronizing, test ride and tweek some more.
Check Craigslist for motorcycle mechanics looking for side work. Maybe find a guy who can remove and re-install the carbs, then you send them somewhere for rebuilding.
Or put in a need help CL ad yourself.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2023, 05:25:46 PM » |
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The guys you send your carbs to have the easy part. All they have to do is clean and rebuild them. The customer does most the work. Removal, installation, adjustments, synchronizing, test ride and tweek some more.
Not sure who you’ve talked to about rebuilding carbs, but have had work done by two fine mechanics on this board. They disassembled the carbs, soaked all in an ultrasonic cleaner to get that crud out. The carbs are reassembled, bench tested, synchronized and color tuned. Agreed, the removal and remodel is a bit of a process, but the returned carb back is great to ride once installed. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2023, 07:05:20 AM » |
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"color tuned" only works for the motorcycle and atmospheric conditions the carbs are installed on.
I don't know why that is being offered as a plus for carbs tested somewhere else.
There are opinions out there that syncing the carbs only works for the running motorcycle they are intended for and doing it as a bench test only has them close so the motorcycle will run so the actual sync can be done.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2023, 04:58:51 PM » |
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"color tuned" only works for the motorcycle and atmospheric conditions the carbs are installed on.
I don't know why that is being offered as a plus for carbs tested somewhere else.
There are opinions out there that syncing the carbs only works for the running motorcycle they are intended for and doing it as a bench test only has them close so the motorcycle will run so the actual sync can be done.
I wonder how many were tuned in Marysville Ohio, and shipped all over the world. I've been to the factory and watched them roll off the assembly line. They put them on a dyno affair to run them up. I don't remember them doing a lot of tuning. Perhaps they did .It was long time ago. I suspect they determined a base set of adjustments that would be an acceptable setup, and mounted the carbs. Fired it up and made sure everything worked and crated it for shipping. I however have no idea. I figure no matter where in the world you tune it, you are probably going to ride it somewhere else. So when I tune, I set them up for the air intake and exhaust that is mounted on the customers bike. I have no choice but to tune for 20 feet above sea level in North Carolina, because that is where I live. If they are going to a location to be ridden at high altitude continuously, I make the factory recommended adjustment to the pilot screws. As for balancing, the purpose is to sync the other 5 carbs to #3. If a given engine is operating properly the sync on my test engine should produce more than adequate results. The Digi sync is many times more accurate than what is specified in the manual. There are a lot of riders out there that are not interested in tackling a carb rebuild job. There are some people associated with the VRCC that are willing and able to help those folks out. 2 of us advertise on here, Attic Rat and me. WoodButcher, Dave Wilder, Jarred Hinkle are also in the business. I do not speak for any of them, only my own 2 cents worth. I am just trying to provide what I think is a needed service. Respectfully Dave |
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2023, 05:49:19 PM » |
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"color tuned" only works for the motorcycle and atmospheric conditions the carbs are installed on.
I don't know why that is being offered as a plus for carbs tested somewhere else.
There are opinions out there that syncing the carbs only works for the running motorcycle they are intended for and doing it as a bench test only has them close so the motorcycle will run so the actual sync can be done.
I wonder how many were tuned in Marysville Ohio, and shipped all over the world. I've been to the factory and watched them roll off the assembly line. They put them on a dyno affair to run them up. I don't remember them doing a lot of tuning. Perhaps they did .It was long time ago. I suspect they determined a base set of adjustments that would be an acceptable setup, and mounted the carbs. Fired it up and made sure everything worked and crated it for shipping. I however have no idea. I figure no matter where in the world you tune it, you are probably going to ride it somewhere else. So when I tune, I set them up for the air intake and exhaust that is mounted on the customers bike. I have no choice but to tune for 20 feet above sea level in North Carolina, because that is where I live. If they are going to a location to be ridden at high altitude continuously, I make the factory recommended adjustment to the pilot screws. As for balancing, the purpose is to sync the other 5 carbs to #3. If a given engine is operating properly the sync on my test engine should produce more than adequate results. The Digi sync is many times more accurate than what is specified in the manual. There are a lot of riders out there that are not interested in tackling a carb rebuild job. There are some people associated with the VRCC that are willing and able to help those folks out. 2 of us advertise on here, Attic Rat and me. WoodButcher, Dave Wilder, Jarred Hinkle are also in the business. I do not speak for any of them, only my own 2 cents worth. I am just trying to provide what I think is a needed service. Respectfully Dave I think it’s great that you (and others) are doing this. I usually do the work on my bikes, but I understand some aren’t comfortable doing that. Your service is a godsend for these folks.  |
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