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f6john
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« on: August 25, 2023, 08:34:28 AM »

A 10 foot piece of 1/2” copper pipe is $42.00 a stick. 12-2 wire was $170+ per roll. I guess it’s Pex time for everyone. My entire house in copper for water lines and I’m doing this bathroom remodel and needed to cap off some lines while doing rough in. A bag of 10 1/2” caps was $10.00. People who already own a home are seeing their values go up, people who are looking for their first home are between a rock and a hard place.
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carolinarider09
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2023, 10:54:45 AM »

Yes it seemed that all metal and wood products prices are up.   I wonder why?

Regarding the PEX, my entire house is plumbed with PEX for the hot and cold water delivery.  

I purchased the tubing and fittings and (for lack of a better term) the clamps and provided them to the plumbers for installation.  Also have a distribution manifold as shown on Holmes On Homes (which is were I saw the PEX for the first time).

Anyway, the key, according to the plumbers doing the work, was the tool I purchased to crimp the "crimp rings".  They said it as great.  

I still have spare PEX tubing and crimp rings and the tool.  One never knows.



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old2soon
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2023, 05:09:23 PM »

      A GOOD Friend of mine WAS going to fix up a small 2 bedroom place he owns that sits on his property. Key word here WAS! When he started pricing building materials his exact words to me were sticker shock. He also stated he "thought" the new in 2012 tractor he bought was rather high priced. He looked again in 21 and was HAPPY he'd bought in 12! Guy I rent from is also a contractor. He has horror stories of how EVERYTHING he uses from lumber to paint to nails and the concrete are now all Well Beyond RIDICULOUS as far as pricing goes. His bids reflect the price increases and some folks here bouts must STILL have money cuz he sure ain't lackin fer work! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2023, 05:43:46 PM »

Yes it seemed that all metal and wood products prices are up.   I wonder why?

Regarding the PEX, my entire house is plumbed with PEX for the hot and cold water delivery. 

I purchased the tubing and fittings and (for lack of a better term) the clamps and provided them to the plumbers for installation.  Also have a distribution manifold as shown on Holmes On Homes (which is were I saw the PEX for the first time).

Anyway, the key, according to the plumbers doing the work, was the tool I purchased to crimp the "crimp rings".  They said it as great. 

I still have spare PEX tubing and crimp rings and the tool.  One never knows.

I LOVE PEX for doing my own freshwater/supply plumbing. Sharkbite fittings are even easier than the Crimp ring on, and they can be used to join almost anything to almost anything.
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DIGGER
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2023, 08:14:37 PM »

Construction Materials are really high.    I recently went to Lowe's in Tomball Texas to buy some electrical gray schedule 40 pvc 2 1/2" to install a service for my brother in law and had to pay $70.85 per 10' stick.   
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carolinarider09
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2023, 07:03:08 AM »

Construction Materials are really high.    I recently went to Lowe's in Tomball Texas to buy some electrical gray schedule 40 pvc 2 1/2" to install a service for my brother in law and had to pay $70.85 per 10' stick.   

REALLY!!!!!  I just looked here, could not find a 2 1/2" pipe but the 2" pipe was $29 and the 3" was $69.   Luckily I have left over wiring and some pipe but not much electrical grey PVC.   

But yes, I have found the same.  Its a price whirlwind out there and it will not stop in the their future. 
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JimmyG
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2023, 07:23:02 AM »

If your plumber has the tool, Pex A is the way to go. 
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DIGGER
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2023, 02:39:13 PM »

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carolinarider09
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2023, 03:43:58 PM »

Oh,,, I believed you but I found it interesting in the difference in pricing.   I just looked on line using my location and the Lowes store I routinely visit.

I just checked, online, the local ACE Hardware Store.   No 2 1/2" PVC but 2" is $31.99 and 3" is $74.99.   

Most be Location - Location - Location. 
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DIGGER
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2023, 07:25:55 PM »

Post is about copper.    Last yr I installed a new 24 kw generator and large propane tank.   Had to run about 25' of 3/4 copper in a 50' roll that cost around $250.   

I was a  electrician for 44 yrs and had a small pile of scrap copper at my house.  Not a very big pile.   About a yr ago I took the pile to a scrap yard and they gave me a little over $800 for it.  I was shocked it brought that much
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RP#62
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2023, 08:35:16 PM »

I know at the metal place I go to, copper and brass are $4/lb and it doesn't take much to make a pound.

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98valk
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2023, 05:47:11 AM »

all of those junk science windmills and solar panels use tons of copper wire.

59,000,000,000 tons of copper, steel, and alloys for the turbines;

These numbers do not include the ultra-long transmission lines required to carry electricity from windy locations to distant cities

https://stopthesethings.com/2017/07/23/the-true-staggering-environmental-cost-of-wind-solar-power-unsustainable-energy-defined/
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2023, 06:26:26 AM »

 We are in the process of doing a 14x24 home addition. Master bedroom with a handy cap master bath. Everytime we turn around we have to pay more for something. We are way over budget on this project. Our interest rate on the loan is 7.375%. Rediculous. All this falls on the current occupier of 1600 Penn Ave and his worthless policies.

 As part of our updates our contractor had to hook up to the original plumbing. When he opened up the "plumbing" wall he found the original 1955 copper pipes showing signs of leaks. With exception of the cast pipe in the foundation he ended up replacing everything with PVC for the drains and the stack and Pex for all the supply lines.
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