wheel spacers UTV-wheel stud snapped off tightening

[cookiedough]

anyone ever break off a wheel stud tightening down a lug nut onto one?  If so,  can you just pound out the broken one and get the correct sized one and reinstall?  It is not for a vehicle, but a 2012 can am commander UTV.

I swapped rims and tires today and had to use the aftermarket 2 inch wheel spacers to clear the axle in rear and air ride suspension hose in front turning wheel.    Could have used 1 inch wheel spacers but the 2 inch wheel spacers were already on the existing rims/tires when I bought it.

2nd issue is the darn broken off piece has only 3 threads past the lug nut which is 1.50 inches long.  I will have to put those 3 threads into a bench vise cranked down and use a heavy duty long bar/17mm socket in hopes the lug nut unscrews and the 3 threads hold.  UTV are only m10 x 125 sizing so not as thick/large as a car.

Never  used wheel spacers before so am hoping the 1 of 4 wheel stud broken off can just be replaced with a new bolt/stud for my UTV?   Of course was the VERY last one of 16 total I was tightening with a longer single bar 17mm socket right before dark tonight at 7 p.m. so fricking packed up and gave up until another weekend.  Always something goes wrong in my life...

I have only broken off 1 wheel stud on a vehicle once in my life with a 4 way wrench not just a longer socket bar about 16 inches long with one hand.  That wheel stud I replaced not super easy since was on a car with stuff behind having to remove 1st, but this is on a wheel spacer easily removed on a UTV, assuming I do not break off another one. 

I would not think wheel spacers for a UTV would have welded on wheel studs (4 of them). I assume they either thread on or are pounded on from the back so can put the lug nuts on sticking out?  will not get to it until 2 weekends from now since next weekend not home and by the time I get home from work is already dark now at 7 p.m..  cannot wait until retirement right?

[ridingron]

I have replaced lugs using a press, hammering them in and using a nut & washer to pull the lug in place. If you are saying you only have 3 threads to hold to get the nut off, toss the lug and nut and buy a new nut when you buy a new lug. Maybe buy a longer lug?

I used a punch and a good size hammer to knock the broken part out of the hub if it was too short to hit directly.

I put grease/anti-seize on the lug and on the washer/nut surfaces. Pulling it on with the nut will probably start the lug in straight as com pared to just giving it a bash with a big hammer.   

[cookiedough]

 yah, watched a video of replacing a wheel spacer stud they should have grooves to put a properly threaded nut on it and it will tighten up with a drill on the new wheel stud, or so one would think.   Easy part should be tapping off the broken wheel stud with a heavy hammer, assuming I do not miss the wheel stud bolt and smash the aluminum wheel spacer of the UTV.. LOL

[cookiedough]

tried officially to contact max motosports online thru amazon.com where they are sold for the wheel spacers.  Have had NO luck locally finding M10x125 wheel studs over 1.10 inch long need to be over 1.25 inches long or more.  shouldn't be that hard should it to contact seller and if nothing else, have them for 25 bucks get just 1 new 2 inch wheel spacer or 2-3 wheel studs that go into the wheel spacer?

https://www.amazon.com/Spacers-Bombardier-Outlander-Commander-Kawasaki/dp/B01A59025I/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=eHayr&content-id=amzn1.sym.5f7e0a27-49c0-47d3-80b2-fd9271d863ca%3Aamzn1.symc.e5c80209-769f-4ade-a325-2eaec14b8e0e&pf_rd_p=5f7e0a27-49c0-47d3-80b2-fd9271d863ca&pf_rd_r=JEV6ENW449EX02T3RPAC&pd_rd_wg=2O5KY&pd_rd_r=b8bf1830-2bc9-42c2-9770-ac12354bc0b5&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1

I see they are sold by partsdeal so will be trying to contact them as well thru amazon.com website.  am sure they do not care that I broke off a wheel stud even though I know I never cranked by hand 80lbs. torque on any of the 16 since just used one hand with about a 14 inch heavy duty single socket bar.  Am sure I can crank 70lbs of torque, but specs state about 75lbs. and that is a HARD crank for only 1 hand and no power tools or even a 4 way jack.

[cookiedough]

as expected, the seller on amazon was useless to help saying they do not sell or even find out the wheel studs that go into the wheel spacers they resell.  I asked if I can just buy one wheel spacer for 25 bucks since a 4 pack is 100 they sell on amazon.com, but not much help their either.  Guess customer service nowadays is lacking.  Will keep trying to find 1 or 2 wheel studs locally after I remove it broken off inside the wheel spacer and my lug nut.  someone has to make the wheel stud right even though locally cannot find the correct length only sell 1.10 inch long threads and need over 1.25 inch long threads.  I think that about .25 inch shorter threads would be no big deal since will not go all the way to the end of the lug nut but should be at least halfway on and the lug nut tightens anyways to the rim itself.  I see no reason why most of the lug nut threads have to be used on the bolts threads, half or so on say 3/4 inch vs. 1.40 inch or so would be fine since lug nut tighten up anyways on the rim itself

[da prez]

  If you have a local parts store with an older (?) employee , it can be cross matched to a car lug. Most places want make , model and year.  Just a guess , a Smart (?) car may be a starting point. .

                                   da prez

[cookiedough]

  If you have a local parts store with an older (?) employee , it can be cross matched to a car lug. Most places want make , model and year.  Just a guess , a Smart (?) car may be a starting point. .

                                   da prez

size is m10x125 with 4x137 wheel spacer.  auto parts stores have them but only 1.10 inch long, need longer threads...  got thru to amazon.com and pretty much useless all they want to do is sell me another wheel spacer set of 2 vs. me just needing a wheel stud 3-4 bucks...  customer service sucks nowadays.

[cookiedough]

arghh,  finally got the snapped wheel stud off wheel spacer and went to 5 auto parts places and NONE have the knurled 12.5mm diameter wheel stud, all places ONLY have the skinnier 10.5mm knurl to them so will not work.  Where can I get the darn 3 dollar wheel stud bolt?  m10x1.25 with 12.5mm knurl? 

google search might have a lead but have to contact them first.  Disgraceful that all these products (wheel spacer) made in CHINA sold thru 3rd party supplier who is useless to contact thru amazon.com cannot find for me a simple 3 dollar wheel stud from the mfg. max motosports made in CHINA stuff.   3rd party who sells them on amazon.com says just buy a new set of 2 wheel spacers for 58 bucks having a spare just in case need it thru them on amazon.com    Customer service sucks nowadays.

[Valkorado]

Sooner or later you'll decide the time you've spent looking for one stud is probably worth more than the 58 bucks you'll spend on a new set.  Maybe you could eBay the spare and make some money back.

[ridingron]

Before you scrap the adapter, consider a nut on a piece of all thread. I believe the wrench size for a 10mm nut is 17mm. Drill a counter bore hole on the back side of the adapter plate that size, to the depth of the thickness of the nut, probably 10mm. Make the round part of the counter bore that deep not including the conical part of the hole. Center the nut over the hole (should be supported over the hole by the 6 points of the nut). Use a press to force the nut into the hole. You might get away with a BFH but probably just get 1 shot at it.      Fill the adapter plate hole with JB Weld. Screw the all thread into the nut, obviously from the correct side. Run the all thread through the nut slightly and put some red Loctite on it and screw it back into the nut. Put some of the JB Weld on the nut side filling any openings.

All thread can be purchased in a couple grades. I would suspect the most popular size would be a grade 3 or less if that's possible. I would look for a grade 5 or a grade 8. Cost more but I would feel better about it.

[cookiedough]

Sooner or later you'll decide the time you've spent looking for one stud is probably worth more than the 58 bucks you'll spend on a new set.  Maybe you could eBay the spare and make some money back.

gave up for now looking for m10x1.25 wheel studd with 12.5mm knurl with thread length 1.25 inches or at least 1 inch.  Went on facebook marketplace this weekend and bit the bullet drove 75 miles one way to buy a used set of 4 wheel spacers for 60 bucks (plus 20 gas).   

I went to 5 auto parts stores and a can am dealer and NO luck finding a wheel stud that size. 

[Valkorado]

Sooner or later you'll decide the time you've spent looking for one stud is probably worth more than the 58 bucks you'll spend on a new set.  Maybe you could eBay the spare and make some money back.

gave up for now looking for m10x1.25 wheel studd with 12.5mm knurl with thread length 1.25 inches or at least 1 inch.  Went on facebook marketplace this weekend and bit the bullet drove 75 miles one way to buy a used set of 4 wheel spacers for 60 bucks (plus 20 gas).   

I went to 5 auto parts stores and a can am dealer and NO luck finding a wheel stud that size. 

Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.  Glad you'll be back in business at least.

[cookiedough]

Sooner or later you'll decide the time you've spent looking for one stud is probably worth more than the 58 bucks you'll spend on a new set.  Maybe you could eBay the spare and make some money back.

gave up for now looking for m10x1.25 wheel studd with 12.5mm knurl with thread length 1.25 inches or at least 1 inch.  Went on facebook marketplace this weekend and bit the bullet drove 75 miles one way to buy a used set of 4 wheel spacers for 60 bucks (plus 20 gas).   

I went to 5 auto parts stores and a can am dealer and NO luck finding a wheel stud that size. 

Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.  Glad you'll be back in business at least.

agree,  was aggravating to say the least driving all over just to find a 3 dollar bolt that apparently NO ONE makes.   Customer service, thru amazon, is not to my liking.  Hey, just buy NEW 60 bucks for a 3 dollar part.  I did not want to give my 60 bucks for 2 new wheel spacers to same company who was NO help on amazon.com to get 2 identical wheel spacers vs. driving 150 miles total to get 4 used ones that should work putting 1 of the 4 on this weekend for 60 bucks plus 20 in gas so I can finally drive the darn thing hopefully this Sunday after it rains next 3 days.

[Challenger]

Wheel Lug Stud Bolt - 10mm - Round Top
https://www.vmcchineseparts.com/products/wheel-lug-stud-bolt-10mm-round-top

Too late, but his looks close.

[cookiedough]

Wheel Lug Stud Bolt - 10mm - Round Top
https://www.vmcchineseparts.com/products/wheel-lug-stud-bolt-10mm-round-top

Too late, but his looks close.

thanks for link, darn close the thread knurl is close enough around that 12.4 to 12.5mm knurl and same m10x1.25 but the overall length is only 1.33 inches and for sure need 1.75 inches preferred 2 to 2.25 inches long overall bolt.  someone has to make LONGER wheel stud bolts right since that is what is on these chinese wheel spacers