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Rear brake started that squeaking thing so I ordered three sets of rear I/S pads part #06435-MBY-671. Started on the rear and install went smoothly, Flushed fluid and bled brakes. Moved to front left, pads were worn to about 25% left. Install went fine, just had to remove the heat shield from the rear pads to fit on the front. ($50.00 savings) Right side pads looked almost new W.T.H. Pistons were froze solid in the caliper and were not doing any braking.  I've flushed and bled the brakes every two years since I've owned this I/S and never noticed anything weird.  Anyway, I repaired the caliper and reinstalled. After flushing, bleeding and burnishing the pads, I noticed it takes a little less pressure to activate the brakes. I checked the front disks for wear with a micrometer and could not see much difference. (less than .001) All is well that ends well I guess.  And a BIG thanks to whom ever discovered that rear I/S pads will work on the front. |
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98valk
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2024, 10:50:06 AM » |
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And a BIG thanks to whom ever discovered that rear I/S pads will work on the front.
that was me or I never saw anybody else post about them until I did. your welcome. |
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LadyDraco
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2024, 01:04:21 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2024, 06:12:33 PM » |
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Figures after ALL this time with my beloved 99 Green and Pewter/Silver I/S I find yet more information I hope the next owner appreciates. Why the next owner? Case y'all missed it I'll soon have a lightly used-less than 91 G on the clock-88 G W Trike. I WILL Truly MISS Phatt Ghurl but the left hip no longer has fun supporting close to a half ton of M/C when I'm fully loaded on a road trip. So with much sadness time to git that 3d wheel under these old bones. This board overall has been of Much Unlimited HELP in more ways than one. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2024, 07:05:26 AM » |
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And a BIG thanks to whom ever discovered that rear I/S pads will work on the front.
that was me or I never saw anybody else post about them until I did. your welcome. I believe it was you 98valk, cause I remember having a web site discussion with you about the metal backing plate. I couldn't see how the plates could be removed with out harm or against Honda engineers spec. You explained it was a heat shield used because the rear brake works alone and is not as open to air cooling as the front. Worked for me and I've not bought a set of fronts since. So, thanks also. |
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2024, 08:17:51 AM » |
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"Worked for me and I've not bought a set of fronts since" And hopefully they don't catch onto it as fast as they did with the cheap priced alternator covets! |
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2024, 09:02:55 PM » |
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Is that only on I'State?
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2024, 07:31:21 AM » |
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I believe that they will fit all three models. Hopefully someone with more info will chime in.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2024, 04:30:38 AM » |
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The Interstate rear pads with fit all models and all calipers with modification.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2025, 12:26:15 PM » |
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The Interstate rear pads with fit all models and all calipers with modification.
What kind of mod? The tourer pads are on back order but the interstate are in stock. |
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mello dude
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2025, 03:41:38 PM » |
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« Last Edit: July 29, 2025, 04:09:02 PM by mello dude »
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2025, 05:56:42 PM » |
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Sintered Bronze is OEM material and provides the best shortest stopping distance of all street brake pads. anything else increases stopping distance. |
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mello dude
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2025, 07:39:00 PM » |
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Sintered Bronze is OEM material and provides the best shortest stopping distance of all street brake pads. anything else increases stopping distance. Don't care really, but what data you have that shows that? Friction material has come a long way since late 90s. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2025, 09:05:10 PM » |
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Sintered Bronze is OEM material and provides the best shortest stopping distance of all street brake pads. anything else increases stopping distance. Don't care really, but what data you have that shows that? Friction material has come a long way since late 90s. any legitimate brake pad site/company will specify sintered bronze as the best for street. every sport bike from the factory and heavy cruiser uses them and always with an HH rating. ""SUPERIOR STOPPING POWER compared to carbon organic, Kevlar™ organic, or semi-metallic organic pads. LONGER PAD LIFE than organic, Kevlar™ organic, ceramic, or semi-metallic pads – stable sintered metal structure is impervious to softening and decomposition in wet conditions."" https://www.sixity.com/brake-pad-selection-guide |
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mello dude
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2025, 09:40:54 PM » |
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The site splits hairs and is making generalities...Specific brands could be exceptions..Is it good advice? Probably.....
Is there test data for the conclusions? Nada.
Still I'm not racing the Valk, don't care..for my duty cycle I'm good.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2025, 03:48:13 AM » |
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The Interstate rear pads with fit all models and all calipers with modification.
What kind of mod? The tourer pads are on back order but the interstate are in stock. I haven't looked at a set of I/S rear pads for a while, but what I remember is they come with a metal backing plate that all other pads do not have. It's been discussed the plates are for heat dissipation. Once removed, the larger OEM I/S rear pads will fit in the front calipers of all Valks. My theory for the lower price is because Honda has not run through the original stock, so has not had to reorder at higher cost, but that's probably going to end soon  When ever I see some pads claiming to be longer lasting, I always think "longer lasting pads = shorter lasting rotors" |
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2025, 06:14:36 AM » |
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OEM organic pads last about 20,000 mi. for me thus $50 a leg is tad expensive but...
0-60 mph stops @ 107 ft. is pretty adequate for a 750 lb. bike with organic OEM pads.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2025, 10:18:43 AM » |
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OEM organic pads last about 20,000 mi. for me thus $50 a leg is tad expensive but...
0-60 mph stops @ 107 ft. is pretty adequate for a 750 lb. bike with organic OEM pads.
Valkyrie OEM pads are not Organic material. they are sintered bronze material. organic pads provide a long stopping distance. only race track organic pads will stop shorter than sintered bronze, BUT they must be kept at race track brake temperatures. That '97 stopping distance is still in the top five of all motorcycles. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2025, 05:51:56 AM » |
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The site splits hairs and is making generalities...Specific brands could be exceptions..Is it good advice? Probably.....
Is there test data for the conclusions? Nada.
Still I'm not racing the Valk, don't care..for my duty cycle I'm good.
every OEM has the test data. they wouldn't use and have less stopping power for their hypersonic sport bikes. |
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2025, 06:40:04 AM » |
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OEM organic pads last about 20,000 mi. for me thus $50 a leg is tad expensive but...
0-60 mph stops @ 107 ft. is pretty adequate for a 750 lb. bike with organic OEM pads.
Valkyrie OEM pads are not Organic material. they are sintered bronze material. organic pads provide a long stopping distance. only race track organic pads will stop shorter than sintered bronze, BUT they must be kept at race track brake temperatures. That '97 stopping distance is still in the top five of all motorcycles. I stand corrected. After a 2 yr. hiatus in vision of my last change.  In the past I had replaced the pads on the VT1100C with EBC sintered and the visual difference was much more pronounced. The rotor wear factor leads me believe that they are sintered as my rotors are on low limit @ 51,000. |
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