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clanky
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« on: March 03, 2024, 12:19:55 PM »

I'm getting tired of waiting on local garages to swap out my tires.  I've been looking at the manual tire changing equip online.  Anybody out there changing out the tires on one of the manual type tire changing machines?
I made a tire holder and was going to get a machine but after breaking the bead on the rear tire I'm more than little intimidated by the effort that will be needed to get the tire off the rim using the manual machines that utilize a long bar and a lot of effort.
Most of the videos show front tires being swapped out but not the rear ones.
Any advice/input is appreciated !!!
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98valk
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2024, 12:54:04 PM »

Harbor Freight has a nice tire changer and a separate motorcycle bead breaker.   reviews on web are always great.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2024, 01:22:54 PM »

I don’t think the rears are harder to change than the fronts.

This is what I use.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2024, 01:24:23 PM »

      I've seen the rear tire being changed out on the floor. The longer your tire irons are the More Leverage you have. LONG time ago when I was bustin tires for a living eventually I developed a touch for it. BUT like many things these days requiring manual labor it are a young guys thingy!  2funny I've heard good reviews on that H/F tire machine. You have a H/F close to you you can eyeball it before ya buy! RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2024, 02:24:09 PM »

I've used this HF Tire Changer from Harbor Freight for years.  Bolted to the floor of my garage it does the job but can still be a pita sometimes.  I made a square spacer out of 2x4's to raise & protect the rotor when breaking the bead.

I also have a couple Tire Iron's from Harbor Freight and they help. Tire Iron

I'd also suggest some kind of rim protector similar to these Rim Protector so you don't nick or mar the rim.

Alternatively you can take a old piece of water hose 6"-8" cut down the length then put on the rim for protection.

And a spray bottle of diluted dish washing soap helps slide the bead of the tire over the rim.


Unless it's an emergency or I'm in a hurry I prefer to just take the wheels to the shop and pay them $25 to break them down and put on new.  They can do it much easier and quicker than I can.


I also made a balancing jig with two tapered round blanks that slide on a shaft that I can slide into the bearings or hub, lock down the set screws then put the rod onto some v-blocks that have bearings to balance the wheel.

Last year or the year before I've tried using balancing beads and so far I think I prefer the beads over manual balancing.



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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2024, 02:31:20 PM »

I have the HF manual machine but have yet to try my Valk. Won't know until next winter. The issues that I have with the HF machine are easily fixed. Issues tend to stem from head efficiency. If you have a nice head like the Emperor you will likely do a lot better. I actually use the POS bar that comes with the HF machine. It's long with lots of leverage, but it's raw steel and it will scratch the hell out of your rims. I have a pair of motion pro tire iron rim protectors. I put one protector with a tire iron tied off that keeps the tire from popping back over the rim. The second protector is under the HF bar with tie wraps around the bar so it moves and stays under the bar and protects the rim until the tire is of the rim. It also helps the bar to slide along the rim. I also buy the expensive lube from Nomar, which helps. You will also need to protect your rims where the metal vise clamps grab the lower wheel in 3 locations. I use edge protector strip that I purchased from McMaster Carr, but almost anything would work. Lastly the bar has no T handle and since it has a single point head (unlike the Emperor's 2 point) it tends to roll and bind. I installed an adjustable T arm. It's a 1 1/4" x 3/4" steel reducing  T with a 3/4" x 8" nipple for a handle. I drilled and threaded the reducing T for 2 ea - 1/4 20 bolts so I can lock the T handle at any location along the arm. I don't have a lot of strength, but I expect to be able to change Valk tires. Only time will tell.
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clanky
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2024, 06:21:20 AM »

Emperor, great picture!  I assume you got the tire lip up over the "duck" using standard tire irons/spoons? 
I have a similar setup on my work bench. I built a wooden stand to support the tire wheel casting.
My worry is damaging the brake rotor trying to get the tire lip up over the "duck" lip prior to rotating the "duck" support arm to peel off the tire.
How to prevent warping the rotor, or am I over thinking this?
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2024, 08:53:23 AM »

Emperor, great picture!  I assume you got the tire lip up over the "duck" using standard tire irons/spoons? 
I have a similar setup on my work bench. I built a wooden stand to support the tire wheel casting.
My worry is damaging the brake rotor trying to get the tire lip up over the "duck" lip prior to rotating the "duck" support arm to peel off the tire.
How to prevent warping the rotor, or am I over thinking this?
Clanky
The plywood I put over the rotor protects it pretty well. I do try not to crank down with leverage on it though. Once you break the bead, you can get the duck in there without using tire irons. I usually do use them though, to keep the tire from slipping.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2024, 06:56:50 PM »

https://www.mojotiretools.com/mojoblocks.htm

these will help keep your rims from being scratched..
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98valk
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2024, 03:42:43 AM »

https://www.mojotiretools.com/mojoblocks.htm

these will help keep your rims from being scratched..

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