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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2024, 03:43:54 AM » |
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yep use them a lot esp., for OEM parts usually lowest price. my last two tire purchases Mx was lower than Rocky and what is nice for me MX doesn't need to hit me with my states sales tax, whereas rocky has to.
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1998 Std/Tourer, 2007 DR200SE, 1981 CB900C 10speed 1973 Duster 340 4-speed rare A/C, 2001 F250 4x4 7.3L, 6sp
"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other." John Adams 10/11/1798
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mello dude
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2024, 02:07:07 PM » |
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Typically Rocky Mountain and Dennis Kirk have been my goto for motorcycle tires... 
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2024, 03:34:54 PM » |
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h13man
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2024, 06:22:31 AM » |
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Availability is more key than price nowadays but https://www.americanmototire.com/ has been my "go to". 2 day less delivery time. Jake Wilson ran a special on Cobra AV 72's that was as cheap as the my usual Bridgestone 701/702 Exedra's. Liked them as equal but the Diamonds version showed up along with Covid and here we are.  I used the Exedra Max on a 1600 Nomad but can't testify the cold/wet condition handling compared to the Cobra in a complete deluge of rain which were awesome. Taking rain over the Rain Ex treated windshield sure made visibility a hoot.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2024, 04:03:36 PM » |
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Availability is more key than price nowadays but https://www.americanmototire.com/ has been my "go to". 2 day less delivery time. Jake Wilson ran a special on Cobra AV 72's that was as cheap as the my usual Bridgestone 701/702 Exedra's. Liked them as equal but the Diamonds version showed up along with Covid and here we are.  I used the Exedra Max on a 1600 Nomad but can't testify the cold/wet condition handling compared to the Cobra in a complete deluge of rain which were awesome. Taking rain over the Rain Ex treated windshield sure made visibility a hoot. i ordered from them as well, very fast shipping and best price and instock i could find on the metlzer 888 front and rear
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RobH
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2024, 06:17:54 PM » |
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I just ordered a set of Shinko SE890's from DK (couldn't afford anything else). A bit worried: as one of the reviewers noted, the Shinko's had great reviews up until a couple of years ago, and then suddenly there was all kinds of talk about them separating, etc. I'm really hoping that was the exception, and not the rule....
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h13man
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2024, 06:16:50 AM » |
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Tire failure happens to all manufacturers one time or another. Metzler 880's bias ply had a reputation of failures before the harder compound 888's which in turn has issues with cold/wet conditions. This seems to be an issue with lighter VT1100's and the Michelin Commanders II also had this issue on VT1300 Yamaha cruiser. The Exedra Max though cheaper than the 701/702 variant, I used them on a Vulcan 1600 Nomad @ 800 lbs. but only rode it in the summer thus can't say anything about cold/wet performance. I've had Cobra AV 72 and on my second set of 701/702 with no difference in performance except I got 21,000 out of the front Cobra 1st. time using balance beads but on rear w/o beads with both brands, 12,500. I'm not expecting any better due to torque wear but the beads are in and under testing. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2024, 06:43:17 AM » |
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Tire failure happens to all manufacturers one time or another. Metzler 880's bias ply had a reputation of failures before the harder compound 888's which in turn has issues with cold/wet conditions. This seems to be an issue with lighter VT1100's and the Michelin Commanders II also had this issue on VT1300 Yamaha cruiser. The Exedra Max though cheaper than the 701/702 variant, I used them on a Vulcan 1600 Nomad @ 800 lbs. but only rode it in the summer thus can't say anything about cold/wet performance. I've had Cobra AV 72 and on my second set of 701/702 with no difference in performance except I got 21,000 out of the front Cobra 1st. time using balance beads but on rear w/o beads with both brands, 12,500. I'm not expecting any better due to torque wear but the beads are in and under testing.  Thank you for the information! I've been considering using balance beads - should they be used in tires that have been balanced in installation? You guys are great!
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h13man
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2024, 05:57:32 AM » |
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I guess you could but not necessary in my view point. I've had stick on weights come off but poor tire install (not cleaning the wheel) at the shop was the culprit as weight fell off on the garage floor reinstalling the wheel. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2024, 12:50:55 PM » |
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I guess you could but not necessary in my view point. I've had stick on weights come off but poor tire install (not cleaning the wheel) at the shop was the culprit as weight fell off on the garage floor reinstalling the wheel.  Great info. I guess I'll see how the shop does with the balancing, and go from there. From what I've read (but not experienced yet), balance beads do a pretty good job. Is that accurate?
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2024, 06:05:08 PM » |
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Battle Wing BW502 Tire on the front yes it is a rear tire and Yes I change the rotation. I love the amount of rubber it has, Even HB ran them on his Valks.. Dennis Kirk has the best price for this tire 206 plus a 10% discount ta boot..
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h13man
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2024, 06:34:41 AM » |
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The only issue with using beads is tedious install with 90 degree stems and you have to have your tire @ 10-2 o'clock position and blast some air in to clean the beads out of the stem to do pressure checks. They make valves that alleviate this issue but didn't work in my 90 degree variants.
Another issue that could be is using string plugs for tire repair as the adhesive might collect beads though 2 oz. minimum might be enough to offset this issue.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2024, 02:25:18 PM » |
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The only issue with using beads is tedious install with 90 degree stems and you have to have your tire @ 10-2 o'clock position and blast some air in to clean the beads out of the stem to do pressure checks. They make valves that alleviate this issue but didn't work in my 90 degree variants.
Another issue that could be is using string plugs for tire repair as the adhesive might collect beads though 2 oz. minimum might be enough to offset this issue.
I've had good luck using good ol fashion BBs! NO dust and best I can tell tween tire changes BBs sppear to have no/nada/none deterioration. Been using BBs in my cage tires and my recently departed 99 Green & Silver I/S AKA Phatt Ghurl. Even wally wurld has BBs and BBs at least in this point in time are Not fed regulated!  RIDE SAFE.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2024, 07:06:24 PM » |
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At my first W2 withholding job at a Mobil gas station ($1.25 an hour), we kept used tires for sale. They were $5, $4, and $3 dollars. We'd mount them, but not balance them. The $5 ones might have some tread on them. All we guaranteed was that they'd hold air (for awhile). There was a huge Chrysler engine plant up the street from us, and lots of their employees drove old beaters and these tires were just to get home on. Can you imaging selling used tires with cord showing today.  You'd get your ass sued off, and your business insurance cancelled. Or even charged with some crime.
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h13man
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2024, 07:29:13 AM » |
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The only issue with using beads is tedious install with 90 degree stems and you have to have your tire @ 10-2 o'clock position and blast some air in to clean the beads out of the stem to do pressure checks. They make valves that alleviate this issue but didn't work in my 90 degree variants.
Another issue that could be is using string plugs for tire repair as the adhesive might collect beads though 2 oz. minimum might be enough to offset this issue.
I've had good luck using good ol fashion BBs! NO dust and best I can tell tween tire changes BBs sppear to have no/nada/none deterioration. Been using BBs in my cage tires and my recently departed 99 Green & Silver I/S AKA Phatt Ghurl. Even wally wurld has BBs and BBs at least in this point in time are Not fed regulated!  RIDE SAFE. I got 21,000 miles to the wear bars my 1st. time on my front AV72 Cobra using beads. My thought on BB's is they are too large/smooth to be as effective as the way smaller ceramic beads and getting thru the 90 degree valve stem might be an issue as beads are tedious enough. Buy beads in bulk, much much cheaper. doing beads in rear now but I expecting 12,500 regardless as I believe the torque on these beasts is the major wear factor. Just my thoughts/experience so far.
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