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Author Topic: I painting all my vehicles like this from now on.  (Read 2772 times)
98valk
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« on: July 13, 2024, 02:02:59 PM »

posted by a former SR-71 pilot on a FB air force plane page.

"In the paint. It held secret tiny iron microscopic pieces that dissipated electronic radiation. This would help scramble the image of a SR-71 Blackbird enemy radar scope."
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2024, 02:46:51 PM »

No one's probably going to shoot telephone pole size rockets at your vehicles.   Grin
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2024, 02:53:07 PM »

Not to mention, the price is quoted by the square inch. crazy2
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2024, 04:54:53 AM »

You’ll also need to harden the electronics. Let me know if you need help installing a 50mm hidden somewhere, I like the challenge. Lol.
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98valk
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2024, 05:21:57 AM »

the paint is to be invisible to police radar or what ever they are using today.

https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/40344/a-radar-invisible-stealth-car
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2024, 08:27:44 AM »

The problem with painting a motorcycle with this is, it would only reduce the RADAR reflections from the sides and, with RADAR, it's all about the angles the signal strikes the bike. So, a lot of money for almost no improvement. To make it work, you would need to build a mostly curved shroud, with a radome at the front, like the nose of an F-22. It would look cool, but I wouldn't want to ride it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2024, 09:09:00 AM »

The problem with painting a motorcycle with this is, it would only reduce the RADAR reflections from the sides and, with RADAR, it's all about the angles the signal strikes the bike. So, a lot of money for almost no improvement. To make it work, you would need to build a mostly curved shroud, with a radome at the front, like the nose of an F-22. It would look cool, but I wouldn't want to ride it.

I hope u know I'm only messing around about the SR-71 paint.
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2024, 12:36:38 PM »

The problem with painting a motorcycle with this is, it would only reduce the RADAR reflections from the sides and, with RADAR, it's all about the angles the signal strikes the bike. So, a lot of money for almost no improvement. To make it work, you would need to build a mostly curved shroud, with a radome at the front, like the nose of an F-22. It would look cool, but I wouldn't want to ride it.

I hope u know I'm only messing around about the SR-71 paint.
Fun to think about a piper tiger, though. Evil
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2024, 06:42:20 AM »

The problem with painting a motorcycle with this is, it would only reduce the RADAR reflections from the sides and, with RADAR, it's all about the angles the signal strikes the bike. So, a lot of money for almost no improvement. To make it work, you would need to build a mostly curved shroud, with a radome at the front, like the nose of an F-22. It would look cool, but I wouldn't want to ride it.
"Curved" isn't how stealth technology works. Look at the F-22 again. What you see are a number of planar shapes stitched together in such a way that they deflect the radar beams away from the aircraft - or deflect it into the skin when the energy is absorbed and dissipated as heat.

There are a number of commercially available FEA and antenna modeling programs which would get a designer close. But those packages which essentially reduce the signature of an an aircraft the size of a B-2 down to that of a large bird are and probably will remain classified. Until some D-F with a DEI penchant gives the wrong Chinese students access to the wrong computers, that is.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2024, 10:45:06 AM »

The nose of an F-22 is indeed curved back from the tip, while there is ridge line along the sides. Further back, it is angled panels to reflect away, but a bike is too small for that - and, it won't have wings or big engine inlets.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2024, 07:01:04 AM »

Years ago Car and Driver ran an article comparing radar detectors. It was during the national 55 MPH speed limit era, so these were hot sellers. Later in the article they discussed alternatives, like CB radios, a radar jammer, and some microwave absorbing panels they got from a military surplus place as I remember.

The panels were flexible, cardboard like material. They attached them all over the front of a Porsche 911, probably with duct tape. And sure enough, they greatly reduced the amount of signal that was reflected back to the police radar gun they used for the tests. The result was that the radar gun wouldn't get a reading until the 911 was very close. However, if a larger vehicle was following, the unit would read its speed and ignore the closer 'stealth' car. I've often seen this same effect when approaching one of those speed readout signs police place at the roadside to slow traffic, where the sign reads the speed of a truck behind me and ignores my bike.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2024, 09:29:29 AM »

   I mean, you'd have to cover all chrome, headlight bucket, bars, bolt heads, etc, everything with the Iron Ferrite paint.  I wouldn't be pretty, particularly.   That's the same stuff in the old brownish recording tape, maybe all recording tape.   
    You could try a radar detector.   They get a lot of false warnings from door openers at stores, etc. but they tell you when you're being checked.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2024, 11:10:04 AM »

   I mean, you'd have to cover all chrome, headlight bucket, bars, bolt heads, etc, everything with the Iron Ferrite paint.  I wouldn't be pretty, particularly.   That's the same stuff in the old brownish recording tape, maybe all recording tape.   
    You could try a radar detector.   They get a lot of false warnings from door openers at stores, etc. but they tell you when you're being checked.

it was a joke. however no false alarms with the latest detectors

https://www.valentine1.com/v1-detectors/
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2024, 05:39:01 PM »

I remember a cartoon years ago. Might have been Herman. He had a "Stealth Buick." It was covered in mattresses!
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2024, 08:58:34 AM »

I know this was posted as a joke, but it's worth mentioning that a stealth vehicle isn't invisible to radar, just less visible. Nearly any object reflects some of a police radar signal, including humans (especially bones/teeth) and even water droplets. So the goal is to reduce the reflection. The most obvious method is to reduce vehicle size, so motorcycles are already somewhat 'stealth'. You can also deflect the signal with angular panels like the stealth bomber. In fact some cars like a Porsche 911 reflect less radar because of the sloping hood and no front grille.

But there is a downside: a stealth vehicle could get someone else's ticket. You may have noticed that when passing one of those informational speed signs on the roadside, it won't read a motorcycle's speed until you get fairly close. But if there's a big truck in the vicinity the sign may ignore the bike and display the truck's speed. It's not unheard of for smaller vehicles to get ticketed for another vehicle's speed. I have a friend who got one.
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2024, 02:03:55 PM »

Forget about the paint.

This. THIS is what it is all about. This plus a great big air horn and Darksided.

"Oh yeah? Cut me off???? "


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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2024, 05:55:17 PM »

I believe that is the 30mm gattling gun from an A10 Warthog.











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