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At a PA rally someone tried to assassinate Donald Trump. This falls on our lawless leftists in power that incite this hate. Let’s go Brandon
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2024, 03:50:24 PM » |
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When the opposition keeps telling their followers President Trump is "Literally Hitler", this is the kind of thing that has to be expected...  |
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2024, 03:52:26 PM » |
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The responsibility for this lies totally upon leftist idiots that think it's completely OK to do whatever the F@#$ that they want to do!
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2024, 04:13:43 PM » |
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The President will be fine. He’s getting minor treatment right now. This will do nothing but guarantee his election. All the dirty plans the leftists have devised has backfired. This will solidify Trumps support!!
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2024, 04:14:09 PM » |
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Amazing some of the hateful comments popping up all over FACEBOOK. I didn’t know how deep the hatred went.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2024, 04:38:25 PM » |
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2 inches further to the right and the headline would have been-Former P O T U S Donald J. Trump Assinated in Butler Pa.! As a W A G some bozo who did this or knows who did this will git a on some social media platform braggin bout it.  RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2024, 05:59:10 PM » |
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One Spectator killed, two more in critical condition.
I'm so confused, all this time I'm being told the "Right/Conservatives" were the one considered dangerous.
Edited: Reported that the SS Counter Strike team neutralized the shooter. Apparently, the Shooter was outside the secured perimeter. You gotta wonder who set that security up.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2024, 06:22:59 PM » |
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Michigan Republi blamed the attack on a "demonization" of Trump
The puppet they show on TeeVee has no platform at all cannot win - so he tells his mouth breather followers “ I am great uniter Trump is Hitler & must be destroyed”
Many Republicans quickly blamed the violence on Biden and his allies, arguing that sustained attacks on Trump as a threat to democracy have created a toxic environment. They pointed in particular to a
comment Biden made to donors on July 8:”it’s time to put Trump in the bullseye.”
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2024, 06:38:58 PM » |
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AR15 @ 300 yards, sounds like a miracle shot!!!  Not at all. The first report indicated a semi-automatic 22 caliber. Later report speculates AR15. When I was active duty Marine our minimum range test (with M-16) was 200 yards, the max being 500 yards. The bullseye on the target would be head sized. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2024, 06:39:30 PM » |
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There will be no consequences or even talk of consequences for the lawless lefties who absolute are responsible for this. Biden is a thousand times more responsible for this than Trump was purported to be for Jan 6. Yet, nothing will happen
Biden very recently said it’s time to put Trump in the crosshairs. Sure he’ll say that was figuratively. But as charged and divided the country is any conscious person would know that was a dangerous thing to say.
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AR15 @ 300 yards, sounds like a miracle shot!!! Not at all. The first report indicated a semi-automatic 22 caliber. Later report speculates AR15. When I was active duty Marine our minimum range test (with M-16) was 200 yards, the max being 500 yards. The bullseye on the target would be head sized. Indeed, 300 yards wouldn't be incredible with an AR... Initial reports are there was an "AR Style Rifle" recovered with the shooter on his rooftop. Shooter's rooftop was (Again, this is initial reports, time will bring clarity) was in the 150 yard range from President Trump...  |
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2024, 06:58:08 PM » |
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Hoo Rah - Highly doubtful m16 was used here Oswald pretty sure m16 barrel is substantially longer tha ar assault rifles
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2024, 07:28:48 PM » |
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Watching the details on Newsmax it looked like it might not have been 300yds. Could have been half that. There’s really no excuse for that position to have been ignored. The secret service usually stakes out any possible shooting location in advance and there wasn’t many. Just this one cluster of buildings. I think someone is in deep doodoo.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2024, 07:40:14 PM » |
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There’s really no excuse for that position to have been ignored.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2024, 07:50:35 PM » |
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Ok. I'll start the conspiracy theories. Eye witness tries to alert SS and police of shooter on roof with a rifle. Yet, SS and police do not respond until after Trump is shot, and kill the shooter. I think Hillary and Biden found a patsy, like Oswald, that would assassinate Trump and then the SS snipers would take the shooter out. Would have worked if dude was a better shot.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2024, 07:53:16 PM » |
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It’s obvious this is the outcome the Biden handlers have been hoping for. It’s no secret they have been trying to revoke Donald Trumps security. Then they call him a clear and present danger, Hitler even. They must be disappointed the sniper missed. So sad for America today.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2024, 08:23:23 PM » |
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Watching the details on Newsmax it looked like it might not have been 300yds. Could have been half that. There’s really no excuse for that position to have been ignored. The secret service usually stakes out any possible shooting location in advance and there wasn’t many. Just this one cluster of buildings. I think someone is in deep doodoo.
No excuse at all. WTF? They're currently saying 130 yards. WTF? It's difficult to believe they would missed that threat location with a direct site line to the stage. Especially when a bystander pointed out the dude on the roof. I guess the spectators (cultists) were considered expendable. |
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2024, 08:27:59 PM » |
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Ok. I'll start the conspiracy theories. Dude witness tries to alert SS and police of short on roof with a rifle. Let eyewitness, SS and police do not respond until after Trump is shot, and kill the shooter. I think Hillary and Biden found a patsy, like Oswald, that would assassinate Trump and them the SS snipers would take the shooter out. Would have worked if dude was a better shot.
Just saw that witness. He was convincing, and seemed like an honest dude. Hmmm. Here it is. Trump supporter claims he saw a man with a RIFLE hiding on the roof before shots were fired https://mol.im/a/13632103 via https://dailym.ai/android |
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2024, 09:53:12 PM » |
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NY Post says it has identified the shooter as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2024, 10:22:27 PM » |
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I hope 45th gets better soon.
It is unacceptable someone trying to kill a former POTUS.
Now, it is clear to me that the Secret Service has some serious explaining to do. How the heck weren't all buildings around the rally area cleared out and with security people stationed?
Why they ignored the reports by people of a man with a rifle on a roof top?
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2024, 06:17:24 AM » |
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She was probably in on it. BTW - The shooter is from my hometown of Bethel Park, Pa. |
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2024, 06:30:24 AM » |
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I consider myself a good shot but have never handled ar so in my mind it was a & will remain a miracle shot that most here can easily accomplish blindfolded  The miracle is that the shooter missed. It’s obvious this is the outcome the Biden handlers have been hoping for. It’s no secret they have been trying to revoke Donald Trumps security. Then they call him a clear and present danger, Hitler even. They must be disappointed the sniper missed. So sad for America today.
I believe that this will Back Fire on them BIG TIME! This event has most likely assured that Donald Trump will WIN the election! AR15 @ 300 yards, sounds like a miracle shot!!! Not at all. The first report indicated a semi-automatic 22 caliber. Later report speculates AR15. When I was active duty Marine our minimum range test (with M-16) was 200 yards, the max being 500 yards. The bullseye on the target would be head sized. Indeed, 300 yards wouldn't be incredible with an AR... Initial reports are there was an "AR Style Rifle" recovered with the shooter on his rooftop. Shooter's rooftop was (Again, this is initial reports, time will bring clarity) was in the 150 yard range from President Trump... Hitting a silhouette target @ 300 meters with an M16 using iron sights is very easy to do. There is NO EXCUSE for that rooftop not being covered by a good guy. |
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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2024, 07:48:54 AM » |
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so much makes no sense
I have been to 3 Trump rallies
It is inconceivable how a person 150 yards away on a roof was missed between the drone coverage, the local leo and secret service
The response time from when a person reported the sniper to SS and no response
The head of SS Kim what a fubar DJT was safer in the south Bronx
The shot grazing POTUS not doing greater harm
The shooter being killed "neutralized" so no intel could be taken
The failure of Biden and his camp to apologize for their hate rhetoric that perhaps led the young man to commit the heinous act
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I don't think the shooter just up and did this on his own. How does a 20 yo loser from an hour away from the site know this rooftop 150 yards from Trump, would be unoccupied, and how does he get into position with all the security unless he was"assisted". With what has gone on with the weaponization of our government agencies, I can't believe the shooter acted on his own. I believe he was recruited and given a pass, and the plan was to take him out after he shot Trump to silence him. Hillary had people killed for a lot less. She just recruited a lousy shot.
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I have seen one video that shows the two government riflemen on their roof position, both sighting in on the direction of the shooters position, seconds before the first shots rang out. Make of that what you will.
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Far too many things about this shooting are F U B A R and bordering on insanity by what is Supposed to be D J Ts "security detail"! Also COMPLETELY Agree with Skinhead on the shooter having assitance. BUT again as a WAG the "security detail" was most likely assigned. I'm trying to NOT call out the Secret Service on loyalty issues BUT even seeing the "news reports" yesterday lotsa "stuff" ain't addin up. While I was NOT there once the shooter was found could the shooter have been taken with out with out lethal force? Or were standing orders eleiminate any threat? Course us mere regular folks most likely Will NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH! And Thank GOD Donald J. Trump is still Alive! May the folks behind this shooting forever burn in hell. RIDE SAFE. |
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I have seen one video that shows the two government riflemen on their roof position, both sighting in on the direction of the shooters position, seconds before the first shots rang out. Make of that what you will.
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Hitting a silhouette target @ 300 meters with an M16 using iron sights is very easy to do.
Easy with some practice.
Assuming Trump's wound was a bullet and not some shrapnel, the shooter did hit his target.
An inch, inch and half different, and it could have been fatal.
The randomness of life.
And Trump's and our very good luck.
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Far too many things about this shooting are F U B A R and bordering on insanity by what is Supposed to be D J Ts "security detail"! Also COMPLETELY Agree with Skinhead on the shooter having assitance. BUT again as a WAG the "security detail" was most likely assigned. I'm trying to NOT call out the Secret Service on loyalty issues BUT even seeing the "news reports" yesterday lotsa "stuff" ain't addin up. While I was NOT there once the shooter was found could the shooter have been taken with out with out lethal force? Or were standing orders eleiminate any threat? Course us mere regular folks most likely Will NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH! And Thank GOD Donald J. Trump is still Alive! May the folks behind this shooting forever burn in hell. RIDE SAFE. I really don’t think they’ve assigned FP Trump the “A” Team of the Secret Service. |
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Secret Service will need a house cleaning.
I’m sure they were understaffed and trying to rely on local PD . . . but really, no excuse. The shooter was climbing up the backside of that building and angled roof, so the good guys didn’t see him till he would have exposed himself for his shot, probably seconds there. Shooter got off one fairly accurate shot and then shot wildly in to the crowd before the snipers open up on him.
This was the work of an amateur assassin, that just got lucky on the poor performance Secret Service detail that was working that day.
Secret Service had a poor plan for protection, just unbelievable such ineptness.
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I really don’t think they’ve assigned FP Trump the “A” Team of the Secret Service.
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I really don’t think they’ve assigned FP Trump the “A” Team of the Secret Service.
The video of the event supports the above. Especially the one lady trying to get her handgun back in her holster and failing. You saw that too? I was watching yesterday and I tried pointing it out to my wife and she just missed it. The woman looked panicked and definitely could not holster her sidearm. |
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...if I hear one more "expert" refer to a 5.56/.223 AR15 as a "High Powered Rifle" I'm going to pull out my beard!
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I really don’t think they’ve assigned FP Trump the “A” Team of the Secret Service.
The video of the event supports the above. Especially the one lady trying to get her handgun back in her holster and failing. You saw that too? I was watching yesterday and I tried pointing it out to my wife and she just missed it. The woman looked panicked and definitely could not holster her sidearm. Would have been hard to miss! She also drew and (barely) holstered her pistol at least a couple times, and almost tripped once. I'm not saying I'd have done better but more training seems advisable, or maybe finding a better employment "fit". |
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