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« on: March 01, 2010, 07:43:59 AM » |
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I was down in AZ last week and 3 times I ran out of fuel at about 1/2 tank. Switched to res and got to a fuel stop w/ no further problems. I met another valk rider at a fuel stop
and asked about this. He said petcock was going bad to switch to a Pingel. I've read enough about the OEM petcock here, so I think I'll just get a pingel. I checked Pingel's
site and got # 1311CH for the valk. Is this the right one?? I think I want to eliminate the
vacuum line and this one seems to be it. Also, any place better or cheaper than getting it from Pingel. Thanks for the help !!
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 10:31:14 AM » |
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rmrc51
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 10:46:03 AM » |
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The 1311CH is the correct one for the non-vacuum application. I have the same one. Simplicity in it's finest!
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 10:54:56 AM » |
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The CH means Chrome body and Hex shaped body. A CR has a round body if want something different. CHV and CRV uses the vacuum shutoff diaphragm.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 10:59:49 AM » |
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That might have been me you talked to. I recall talking about fuel valves with someone. Was it at D&D Discount MC or the Pavillions car/MC show on a Sat night?
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 12:39:39 PM » |
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Got any plans for the OEM one after you take it off?
-Mike
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Tundra
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 03:00:20 PM » |
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Mike, What do you do with these old OEM's??? I've got one I took off if you need one. I rebuilt it twice last year alone, and still no workie right  So the inner parts are new. |
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 06:05:24 PM » |
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Mike, What do you do with these old OEM's??? I've got one I took off if you need one. I rebuilt it twice last year alone, and still no workie right So the inner parts are new. A rebuilt OEM in the saddlebag might save a ride for me or someone someday... it's a small thing, known to break sometimes... you probably rebuilt yours correctly and some part of it is warped or something, but if you sent it to me and it passed my (Shoptalk's) vacuum test, I'd carry it... -Mike |
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 06:50:23 PM » |
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Tundra,
When you say not working right after rebuild what was wrong?
Thanks Steve
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 07:18:09 PM » |
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I'm still a factory petcock user. I could use a spare also. Rebuilt or not.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2010, 03:25:52 AM » |
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Mike, It's yours. Send me a pm with your address. Keep in mind I would check this out before relying on it. I replaced it for a reason (it sucks) or maybe it wasn't sucking, when it was supposed to  Steve, I had the same symptoms as above, running out of fuel early, loss of power, fuel starvation. I got sick of pulling the tank and messing with it. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 05:04:14 AM » |
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Just installed the 1311CH, pluged the vacumn line with a screw, seems to work fine, glad I did it.  hoser |
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 06:21:06 AM » |
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Is it that simple, replace the stock petcock with the non vacuum model pingel and plug the vacuum line? Just got my 2000 standard and would like to avoid this potential problem. thanks, Ed
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 06:58:01 AM » |
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Is it that simple, replace the stock petcock with the non vacuum model pingel and plug the vacuum line? Just got my 2000 standard and would like to avoid this potential problem. thanks, Ed
Yep! It's that simple! I did it and have no regrets. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2010, 02:52:36 PM » |
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Hoser, remove the vacuum line and then cap it.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2010, 02:57:46 PM » |
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Mike,
It will be mailed to you in the morning. I did remove the fuel selector from it. Hope you can use yours if needed. I JB Welded the fuel selector inside my engine hanger, I did not want to loose my engine hangers and hated that hole, so that was my fix, looks good. I'll be sending you a brand new viton #6 vacuum line also, as I now have no need for it. I could use it as a straw for sippen lemonade, but you'll get more use out of it.
-Doug
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2010, 11:17:08 PM » |
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Hoser, remove the vacuum line and then cap it.
I will when I do the desmog. hoser |
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 07:20:53 AM » |
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Mike,
It will be mailed to you in the morning. I did remove the fuel selector from it. Hope you can use yours if needed. I JB Welded the fuel selector inside my engine hanger, I did not want to loose my engine hangers and hated that hole, so that was my fix, looks good. I'll be sending you a brand new viton #6 vacuum line also, as I now have no need for it. I could use it as a straw for sippen lemonade, but you'll get more use out of it.
-Doug
Thank you. I'll let you know if I can make it pass my (Shoptalk's) vacuum test, and certainly let you know if it ever saves someone's ride... -Mike |
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2010, 04:39:43 AM » |
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Mike,
It will be mailed to you in the morning. I did remove the fuel selector from it. Hope you can use yours if needed. I JB Welded the fuel selector inside my engine hanger, I did not want to loose my engine hangers and hated that hole, so that was my fix, looks good. I'll be sending you a brand new viton #6 vacuum line also, as I now have no need for it. I could use it as a straw for sippen lemonade, but you'll get more use out of it.
-Doug
I got it, I'll test it soon... thanks! -Mike |
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2010, 06:52:21 AM » |
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Your welcome, hope you don't ever need to use it. Just good insurance |
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2010, 02:44:37 PM » |
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Hey All, Have read most of the posts on the site and tested out my petcock to day by trying to run out of gas in the "OFF" position ( Actually forgot to turn it to "ON"!!!!!) and the bike did not run out of fuel in the "OFF" position, so I now am in the bad petcock bunch. SOOOO.... I will be pulling the tank, but want to stick with the OEM for now.... Ran for 20 plus minutes and went around the block on "OFF". Can someone send me the link to the rebuild post and what to order from HDL? I don't want to pingle because I often forget to turn off the petcock... Had an 85 wing that I never touched the petcock except in the winter.... so I got bad habits....  Any and all help would be appreciated, Brad |
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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2010, 04:21:45 PM » |
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A point to watch with these petcocks. If the selector knob is binding it will allow fuel to flow.
This means any time you remove the petcock you have to make sure it is positioned so there is not side load/binding of the selector when you tighten the retaining screw.
There is not much clearance between the selector and bracket and it only takes a little misalignment to cause this to happen.
Found this by accident. My petcock had the bleed orifice blocked and held vacuum on the petcock, while tightening the selector retaining screw fuel started to leak from the valve. I had not connected the fuel hose or would have missed it.
So if you have a petcock that does not shut off try undoing the screw, remove the selector knob and test ride it again.
Regards Steve
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2010, 05:03:09 PM » |
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Can someone send me the link to the rebuild post and what to order from HDL?
The part you need is called a "cover set". While you're in there, changing out the screen could be worthwhile... 04 SCREEN SET 16952-MZ0-003 $12.00 05 COVER SET,rooster 16953-MBZ-B51 $27.90 There's an easy vacuum test in the Shoptalk article that will help you make sure you did the rebuild properly before you put your bike back together... -Mike |
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2010, 05:53:16 PM » |
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i went to easternperformance type in 1311ch it comes up with a pingel but does not list it as 1311ch any info would be great
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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2010, 07:04:43 PM » |
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my bike run great but when you rev it up it boggs hold it wide open and it sounds like it runs out of gas but it dont carb are fine
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2010, 03:21:19 PM » |
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i went on easternperformance typed in 1311-ch and nothing comes up
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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 03:49:17 PM » |
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can anyone tell me part # at eastern as i put in 1311-ch and nothing comes up thanks
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2010, 10:56:36 PM » |
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Matt, just call them. They're pretty knowledgeable. When I called them back in December, they even called Pingel to make sure I was ordering the correct petcock.
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2010, 08:33:19 PM » |
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thanks for the help have it ordered should be running this weekend. how hard is it to turn off and on as it looks like you need to reach from left side
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2010, 01:49:23 AM » |
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No problem after the old petcock is out of the way.
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