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rdunbar123
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« on: March 14, 2010, 01:00:44 PM »

I have a 2010 IS I just bought with 29,000 miles. Took it and the wife to bike week had fun. purchased a magnacharger kit. I usually like to do things myself, but I am new to the valk and I am one of the lucky ones still working, but my recent workload doesnt allow much riding time much less wrench time. I have had Yamahas for 20 years and just bought my first honda since I was a kid. too make my point the yami dealer and the honda in my neck of the woods just combined. trusted the yama mechanics, new to the honda. I decided to let the Honda guys install the kit. first problem they reported was that the stock cables didn't fit and they couldn't adjust the free play. I admit I  haven' messed with cables that much I just wonder if any one else has had this problem or is it the mechanic? also when they put anifreeze back in the system it just poured out at the thermostat. Don't know the resolution as the shop was 10 minutes from closing . suspect they got the o-ring wrong or forgot it. Also I will have to trim the radiator covers but I knew about this from bill. Just wondering if any one else with a recent kit ran into problems.? I have supertrapps with 8 discs per side in so I wonder if this is a good starting place. by the way the mechanics at the shop are excited about the kit. I told them that it was $50 off the bill for each test ride. From what I have read here the kit will be worth it. I will have a power touring bike. I am 60 and trying to spend my kids inheritance.
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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 01:40:46 PM »

2010 Interstate...You are lucky man  cooldude
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I've seen alot of people that thought they were cool , but then again Lord I've seen alot of fools.
rdunbar123
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 01:57:18 PM »

I meant 2001,but who knows,maybe there will be a 2011. BTW, I gave up a venture still have a raider but I will probalbly sell the raider. The Valk is the best bike I have ever had. After the trip to Daytona, in spite of freezing my wife is in love with it.
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Jeff K
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 04:36:43 PM »

also when they put anifreeze back in the system it just poured out at the thermostat. Don't know the resolution as the shop was 10 minutes from closing . suspect they got the o-ring wrong or forgot it. Also I will have to trim the radiator covers but I knew about this from bill. Just wondering if any one else with a recent kit ran into problems.? I have supertrapps with 8 discs per side in so I wonder if this is a good starting place. by the way the mechanics at the shop are excited about the kit. I told them that it was $50 off the bill for each test ride. From what I have read here the kit will be worth it. I will have a power touring bike. I am 60 and trying to spend my kids inheritance.

I'll be willing to bet that they did not remove the bolts from the thermostat housing. If you don't remove the bolts that hold the thermostat housing to the block it will not seal to the manifold. I just loosen them up and pull the bolts up tight to the manifold. If you don't loosen or remove the bolts to the block not only will it leak but they will break the Thermostat housing trying to get it to seal.

Unfortunately they will have to pull the blower back off to do this.
Also, beware of detonation, if you don't control the timing you take the chance of breaking pistons.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2010, 04:40:12 PM »

Stock cables work fine, may need adjusting, Thermostat leak? that would be THE 'Mechanic' your pipes should be fine, anything is better than stock. well......i am sure the fella that did this work was not cheap make him remove the Blower and fix that leak, maybe he will try a little harder next time, getting to that housing under the blower manifold is a Nightmare, there is a lot more to the Blower add on than people think, don't forget about the Ignition system for the Blower, you will enjoy it as you get the bugs out of it, just takes a little time and a LOT of money LOL!! coolsmiley
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Scott from FL, now in Maine
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 04:59:03 PM »

I have Supertrapps also, they say to use between 6 and 12 discs and fine tune to the right amount. I have 11 discs installed with no end caps and it seems great to me. I should mention I haven't done anything to the carb setting myself, but I suspect the previous owner did some tweeking for the exhaust system. I switched to a standard exhaust system for a week to check it out and the bike ran very rich until I got the Supertrapps back on. Enjoy the ride :-)
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rdunbar123
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2010, 04:37:45 AM »

Thanks guys,
I sent this thread to the service dept. They open Tuesday, so I'll see how they respond. I ve learned to read the directions until I can repeat them in my sleep, I learned this by many times doing what looked reasonable but having to go back when it was wrong. I ve always been treated well by the yami folks so we'll see how this works. If I feel I've been screwed believe me I'll name names on every website I' m a member of and that s a lot of them. Several for my raider, several for the venture, and Ive owned two road stars. all of these since 2005. I know i've put enough extras on the bikes, including a stage 4 for one of the roadstars to buy an electra glide CVO, If I  really wanted one.
Again, If it goes well, I'll also name names because a dealer that treats you fairly deserves credit. I have know reason to think I won't be treated fairly but remember "just because you are paranoid it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you". Thanks again for your help.
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2010, 05:06:15 AM »

There should be "NO CHARGE" to fix the problem, it that is what it is.  If they screwed up, it is THEIR PROBLEM, not yours.


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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2010, 07:27:39 AM »

before you take it back in make sure the hose clamp on the housing is nice and tight. you cant see it drip and can go everywhere.
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rdunbar123
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 08:29:49 AM »

sorry for the misunderstanding. they knew there was a problem so they went no further as the shop was about to close. They are off Sunday and monday so I sent this thread to their email with some editing. I will call Tuesday and make sure they read it. Again, This is a dealership that has  been owned for several years by the Yami dealer, just recently they moved both brands into the honda dealership building. I guess the motorcyle business sucks. I always had good treatment, actually better than good on my Yamahas so I have no real reason to expect otherwise except I don't know the honda guys as well.
I have seen several customers with valks on my few visits there. I will report back on the resolution. my motto is "expect the worst and be pleasantly suprised" or "aim low...avoid dissapointment". Thanks again, I have always learned a lot from these websites and am surprised and glad that there is such avid participation on a site for a bike that was last made in 2003(not counting the Rune)
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2010, 09:00:55 AM »

sorry for the misunderstanding. they knew there was a problem so they went no further as the shop was about to close. They are off Sunday and monday so I sent this thread to their email with some editing. I will call Tuesday and make sure they read it. Again, This is a dealership that has  been owned for several years by the Yami dealer, just recently they moved both brands into the honda dealership building. I guess the motorcyle business sucks. I always had good treatment, actually better than good on my Yamahas so I have no real reason to expect otherwise except I don't know the honda guys as well.
I have seen several customers with valks on my few visits there. I will report back on the resolution. my motto is "expect the worst and be pleasantly suprised" or "aim low...avoid dissapointment". Thanks again, I have always learned a lot from these websites and am surprised and glad that there is such avid participation on a site for a bike that was last made in 2003(not counting the Rune)


Got to tell you these are some of the nicest people I have ever encountered,good hearts, and like challenges and willing to go out of there way to help.  Keep in mind when you take, you sometimes have to give back.  What I mean is, don't be afraid to give input on something you may have info.  We all started with step one and we learn as we go and sometimes the simplest answer is the best answer. Only wish our government had the same mind set.

Dan
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 01:05:44 PM »

Where did you buy the Magna charger?
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rdunbar123
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2010, 02:04:26 PM »

From Magnacharger in orland california, a guy named Bill bushling. Number is 530-865-7010.
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pvan
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2010, 02:41:57 PM »

For what its worth...I think you made a mistake having someone install a kit they have never before installed. I would take your bike home and try to hire Jeff K or Terry Klatt then ship your bike to them for completion and tuning.
A blower install adn tune is not all that big of deal for a guy that knows... but for a mechanic that has never done it before the learning curve after the hardware is bolted on could be expensive in more ways than one.
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rdunbar123
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2010, 07:32:26 PM »

Thanks for the input. Is that what you did with your magnacharger? Live and learn. As for tuning, I hope to gain some information from this and other boards. I think the basic kit will run fine based on what I have heard on other boards and the manufacturer(bill bushling). I actually would have installed it myself but I have too little time off as it is. Like I have said, I'll lucky to have as good a job as I have at my age and certainly have to put it first or else I cant pay for my addiction. I change bikes about every 18 months, modify them(that's what i do to relax) and then lose a fortune selling them or trading them in. Having said that, I do like the interstate as well or better than any I've had. also my wife is getting suspicous about all the stock parts and pipes piling up in my garage do I have to stop sometime. Appreciate the thought and I will report when i start to put significant miles on it. If I've screwed up by letting a mechanic who has not installed one before I will certainly admit it and let someone learn from my experience. The mechanic who is installing it did not represent himself as an expert for sure. He just has the tools, and instructions and has worked for years on valks and wings. Will keep everyone posted.
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rdunbar123
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2010, 10:15:18 AM »

also when they put anifreeze back in the system it just poured out at the thermostat. Don't know the resolution as the shop was 10 minutes from closing . suspect they got the o-ring wrong or forgot it. Also I will have to trim the radiator covers but I knew about this from bill. Just wondering if any one else with a recent kit ran into problems.? I have supertrapps with 8 discs per side in so I wonder if this is a good starting place. by the way the mechanics at the shop are excited about the kit. I told them that it was $50 off the bill for each test ride. From what I have read here the kit will be worth it. I will have a power touring bike. I am 60 and trying to spend my kids inheritance.

I'll be willing to bet that they did not remove the bolts from the thermostat housing. If you don't remove the bolts that hold the thermostat housing to the block it will not seal to the manifold. I just loosen them up and pull the bolts up tight to the manifold. If you don't loosen or remove the bolts to the block not only will it leak but they will break the Thermostat housing trying to get it to seal.

Unfortunately they will have to pull the blower back off to do this.
Also, beware of detonation, if you don't control the timing you take the chance of breaking pistons.


Jeff, you were spot on, thats exactcly what happend. will keep ;you posted thanks
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Jeff K
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2010, 12:58:19 PM »

also when they put anifreeze back in the system it just poured out at the thermostat. Don't know the resolution as the shop was 10 minutes from closing . suspect they got the o-ring wrong or forgot it. Also I will have to trim the radiator covers but I knew about this from bill. Just wondering if any one else with a recent kit ran into problems.? I have supertrapps with 8 discs per side in so I wonder if this is a good starting place. by the way the mechanics at the shop are excited about the kit. I told them that it was $50 off the bill for each test ride. From what I have read here the kit will be worth it. I will have a power touring bike. I am 60 and trying to spend my kids inheritance.

I'll be willing to bet that they did not remove the bolts from the thermostat housing. If you don't remove the bolts that hold the thermostat housing to the block it will not seal to the manifold. I just loosen them up and pull the bolts up tight to the manifold. If you don't loosen or remove the bolts to the block not only will it leak but they will break the Thermostat housing trying to get it to seal.

Unfortunately they will have to pull the blower back off to do this.
Also, beware of detonation, if you don't control the timing you take the chance of breaking pistons.


Jeff, you were spot on, thats exactcly what happend. will keep ;you posted thanks

I hate to say this but... I learned that the hard way. Cry
I helped Mosa with his install, it was one of the first new style manifolds, we broke the ears off of the Thermostat housing trying to get it to seal. We had to buy a new one. tickedoff
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rdunbar123
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2010, 01:16:43 PM »

The good thing I guess is they didn't break it. But if they did they would have replaced it. One of the reasons I had them do this is I wanted  to ride and I know it would have taken me several weeks working in 2 to 3 hour periods. Also if they break it they bought it. I know that I would have broken it if the instructions weren't explicit. Thanks again.
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