Thinking about checking out the TEA party rally in Orlando tonight.

[Jeff K]

I've never been to one and figure it's about time to check it out.

[Black Pearl's Captain]

Sweetened or just regular?

Raymond

[Ratdog]

I've never been to one and figure it's about time to check it out.

You move back to Florida ?

[Jeff K]

I've never been to one and figure it's about time to check it out.

You move back to Florida ?

Yep, Orlando.
They made me an offer I couldn't refuse

[Ratdog]

I've never been to one and figure it's about time to check it out.

You move back to Florida ?

Yep, Orlando.
They made me an offer I couldn't refuse

Well, heck... goes to show just how "out of the loop" I am.  I figured you were still frozen in place up north !!!  How long have you been back in the land of blue hairs and Buicks?  LOL

[Jeff K]

I've never been to one and figure it's about time to check it out.

You move back to Florida ?

Yep, Orlando.
They made me an offer I couldn't refuse

2 years

Well, heck... goes to show just how "out of the loop" I am.  I figured you were still frozen in place up north !!!  How long have you been back in the land of blue hairs and Buicks?  LOL

[Ratdog]

I've never been to one and figure it's about time to check it out.

You move back to Florida ?

Yep, Orlando.
They made me an offer I couldn't refuse

2 years

Well, heck... goes to show just how "out of the loop" I am.  I figured you were still frozen in place up north !!!  How long have you been back in the land of blue hairs and Buicks?  LOL

LMAO !!!  Otay !!!   

[sugarbee]

 

[flamingobabe #44]

I'm wanting to go to a Tea Party gathering, also.....every time there is one close by...something else is a happening...let me know what you think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!fb

[JimC]

I went to one in Milwaukee last week, I don't know for sure but I would estimate about 1200 to 1500 people braved the cold (38degrees) and rain, it was OK except for the normal politicians babbling about getting the career pols out of office, when they were career pols themselves.

One thing that ticked me off was the liberal TV media that made no mention of the event on any of the 4 local programs. The Milwaukee Journal (newspaper) had one picture that stated "dozens of people" showed up for the event. More liberal whitewash!

Jim

[Jeff K]

Yep, we had a good time, and there were a couple of dozen people there. 

[Jeff K]

But to be fair there were HUNDREDS of opposition there!! 

Well to be honest it was just the one guy, the guy next to him was holding a "my congressman is nuts" sign. 

[Jess from VA]

Way to go Jeff!!

I'm sure you noted that these are NOT the lunatic fringe as regularly reported in the liberal press.

[fstsix]

I don't know if i should believe you ? i did not see it on Obama TV up here  .....Thursday we will be going with all my Democrat friends Up here in the North East...and then watch the news and see nothing LOL !!  COME ON NOVEMBER!!!!!!  last year we had over 2 thousand at the STATE bldg, this year even more are pi$$ed about Caesar Nero non health care. thanks for going for us and standing up for our Country  btw don't ya get a kick out of the left, no substance just filth and lies, they have no clue? what it's all about. all i got to think is stand aside America has risen!! Oh i did not vote last election nor my Wife or 22 year old son, i didn't want to do a absentee ballet because of travel in 08, you bet your A$$ i will be Voting this mid term and all for now on 

[Tundra]

Stand up and unite, vote and take back our Country (Or loose it for good)

[Big Rig]

I have been wondering if any of you (us) are tired of paying for pensions for the politicians?

[lynn]

Pardon a foreigner asking but what is the tea party/health care debate all about?
Your country is deep in debt and really needs to get it's fiscal house in order. To me it would seem that the government needs to spend much less and take in more or am i wrong?

[Willow]

Pardon a foreigner asking ...

Help us out, lynn.  Add a location to your profile so we'll know from where you're coming.

Your IP address indicates Ontario. 

You'll probably get a lot to agree with you concerning the need of the government to spend less.  You'll likely get a lot of resistance on the government's need to take in more.

Some of our government's needs are not all that different from those of Canada's government.  Some are very different.

[stormrider]

Just making an observation on the Tea Party. I'm assuming they are using that name based on our founding fathers original Tea Party. Didn't it lead to them revolting; lives, homes and fortunes laid on the line? Didn't they make remonstrances and petitions of redress of grievences to the then King? And didn't Patrick Henry make some sort of speech concerning liberty or death?
Just my observation, but didn't Thomas Jefferson say that the tree of liberty must from time to time be sprinkled with the blood of both tyrants and patriots? Didn't the original Tea Partiers put up? From a careful study of history and change, not much has changed without bloodshed. Sorry for pointing this out but honestly, nothing is going to change unless we make it happen. Sometimes force is the only measure that tyrants understand. And they will label us the tyrants or terroists, whichever fits their agenda. If those on the Hill are spending withour representing us then quit giving them anything to spend.

[Jeff K]

Just making an observation on the Tea Party. I'm assuming they are using that name based on our founding fathers original Tea Party. Didn't it lead to them revolting; lives, homes and fortunes laid on the line? Didn't they make remonstrances and petitions of redress of grievences to the then King? And didn't Patrick Henry make some sort of speech concerning liberty or death?
Just my observation, but didn't Thomas Jefferson say that the tree of liberty must from time to time be sprinkled with the blood of both tyrants and patriots? Didn't the original Tea Partiers put up? From a careful study of history and change, not much has changed without bloodshed. Sorry for pointing this out but honestly, nothing is going to change unless we make it happen. Sometimes force is the only measure that tyrants understand. And they will label us the tyrants or terroists, whichever fits their agenda. If those on the Hill are spending withour representing us then quit giving them anything to spend.

Taxed
Enough
Already

[lynn]

Pardon a foreigner asking ...

Help us out, lynn.  Add a location to your profile so we'll know from where you're coming.

Your IP address indicates Ontario. 

You'll probably get a lot to agree with you concerning the need of the government to spend less.  You'll likely get a lot of resistance on the government's need to take in more.

Some of our government's needs are not all that different from those of Canada's government.  Some are very different.

Fixed the location yes i am in the great white north .
I would think that a government should provide the infrastructure of life including but not limited to
Roads
Policing/Fire/EMS
National Defense
Schooling
Sewer/Water
Basic health care
And such social programs as wanted by the majority
For those who complain about what the president is doing well he did say he was going to do it and holy crap he is doing it.
As for the differences please explain. eh?
 

[stormrider]

Pardon a foreigner asking ...

Help us out, lynn.  Add a location to your profile so we'll know from where you're coming.

Your IP address indicates Ontario. 

You'll probably get a lot to agree with you concerning the need of the government to spend less.  You'll likely get a lot of resistance on the government's need to take in more.

Some of our government's needs are not all that different from those of Canada's government.  Some are very different.

Fixed the location yes i am in the great white north .
I would think that a government should provide the infrastructure of life including but not limited to
Roads
Policing/Fire/EMS
National Defense
Schooling
Sewer/Water
Basic health care
And such social programs as wanted by the majority
For those who complain about what the president is doing well he did say he was going to do it and holy crap he is doing it.
As for the differences please explain. eh?
 

Not sure of percentages for a comparison, as for the USA, nearly half don't contribute, just takers. They voted for what we are currently experiencing. And then again, what we have is what was fortold over 200 years ago. We have a government whose leaders can vote to bestow generous gifts from the public treasury upon their constituients, so we vote for more of the same old BS. Demorcrat or Republican, doesn't matter. We have thousands of lobbiest on the national level and many more on the state level ensuring their agenda is approved and gets funded. Look at our military industrial complex for example. We were warned but who's listening? I guess when our ecomomy folds......

[fstsix]

Lynn...respectfully...If you can Explain this maybe it will help us answer your question......                 
Canadian official has heart surgery -- in the U.S.

Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams (AP)

What to make of reports that Canadian official Danny Williams opted to have his heart surgery in the U.S. instead of in his homeland?

Williams, premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, apparently needed surgery on a leaky heart valve, a problem discovered when doctors detected a heart murmur. According to news accounts, he chose to have the surgery done in Florida, where he could take advantage of a minimally invasive through-the-armpit procedure that promised to leave no scar on his chest and would allow for a speedier recovery than the traditional sternum-cracking open-heart approach.

Many have viewed his choice as an indictment of Canada's government-run health-care system and a sign that America's health-care system remains superior.

Others say they're puzzled by Williams's choice, noting that the procedure he underwent is available in Canada.

Allowing his words to speak as loudly as his actions, Williams, who is said to be recovering in Miami from his surgery (which according to this story took longer than expected), had explained his decision simply: "This was my heart, my choice and my health."

"I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics," Williams said.

That's not much of an endorsement for Canada's vaunted public health system. I hope that President Obama and Congress, on the eve of their health-care summit, are paying attention. And I hope that we in the U.S. won't end up trashing our excellent, though imperfect, health-care system in our rush to "reform" it.

But that's just my opinion. What's yours? Share your views in the comments section, and take a moment to vote in today's poll.

W

[Willow]

Fixed the location yes i am in the great white north .
I would think that a government should provide the infrastructure of life including but not limited to
Roads
Policing/Fire/EMS
National Defense
Schooling
Sewer/Water
Basic health care
And such social programs as wanted by the majority
For those who complain about what the president is doing well he did say he was going to do it and holy crap he is doing it.
As for the differences please explain. eh?

Thanks, Lynn.  I'm hoping the great north is getting less white as each Spring day passes.    

You and I would certainly agree strongly on the first five entries on your list, but the majority of those, I would think, should be the responsibility of governments more local than the national.  You'll find both agreement and disagreement with your assessments among U.S. citizens.

As to the differences, I was speaking in general terms.  There are certain burdens that are not the same for the U.S. and Canadian governments due in part to differences in population, position of military power within the civilized world, and responsibilities to our allies.   On the Canadian side, there is the need to maintain some level of reasonable cooperation between the English and French speaking Canadian communities.

For me, I'm comfortable with believing we are two countries that are very much alike and yet very different.   I'm okay with that.  I hope you are also.   

[lynn]

Williams, premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, apparently needed surgery on a leaky heart valve, a problem discovered when doctors detected a heart murmur. According to news accounts, he chose to have the surgery done in Florida, where he could take advantage of a minimally invasive through-the-armpit procedure that promised to leave no scar on his chest and would allow for a speedier recovery than the traditional sternum-cracking open-heart approach.
 

I cut and pasted the above from a post from fstsix

He could have had the basic cut the chest open go in and fix up here. He chose to go south to do it.
He would have to pay for anything over and above what it would have cost up here himself.

The fact that he did that was a bit of a scandal out east.

Now that said i will be the first to admit that you folks have the best health care  in the world if you can afford it! I was shocked to find out that folks on here where having a party to celebrate having paid off a birth of a child  .
Up here you get treated by medical need. My husband (we are a married gay couple but that is an other discussion) had a bowel obstruction and was in hospital for 2 weeks getting it fixed, direct cost to us 80 dollars for 3 trusses to stop hernias.
If i had the money I would most deff head to the US for care it is the best in the world but CAN YOU AFFORD IT i know we can not. I never have to worry about losing the house to pay for caner treatment or heart surgery like some of  you folks do.

[lynn]

Thanks, Lynn.  I'm hoping the great north is getting less white as each Spring day passes.    

You and I would certainly agree strongly on the first five entries on your list, but the majority of those, I would think, should be the responsibility of governments more local than the national.  You'll find both agreement and disagreement with your assessments among U.S. citizens.

As to the differences, I was speaking in general terms.  There are certain burdens that are not the same for the U.S. and Canadian governments due in part to differences in population, position of military power within the civilized world, and responsibilities to our allies.   On the Canadian side, there is the need to maintain some level of reasonable cooperation between the English and French speaking Canadian communities.

For me, I'm comfortable with believing we are two countries that are very much alike and yet very different.   I'm okay with that.  I hope you are also.   

Oh it is green and i have had the valk out for a couple of runs  always nice to go for a ride and see frozen waterfalls on the side of the road.
Yes there are some differences but how much of that is ego and how much of that is really necessary?  Oh find i like most folks from south of us and get along just fine. Yes we have much in common and much that is different  I like that if we where all the same it would be dull around here.
I respect other people's right to there opinion and my right to politely disagree with said opinion.

What many do not understand is that the US and Canada are each others largest trading partner. There is a saying up here if the US sneezes Canada gets a cold. Any thing that  causes economic issues for you affects us sooner or later.

[Willow]

... Yes we have much in common and much that is different  I like that if we where all the same it would be dull around here.
I respect other people's right to there opinion and my right to politely disagree with said opinion.

What many do not understand is that the US and Canada are each others largest trading partner. There is a saying up here if the US sneezes Canada gets a cold. Any thing that  causes economic issues for you affects us sooner or later.

Thanks for the reply, Lynn.  We in the U.S. need to be more careful to cover when we sneeze.

Perhaps you could give lessons.  The art of politely disagreeing seems to be dying out.    

[fstsix]

Lynn, we could go on and on  Health care,...But back to this Topic of the T.E.A party, well it's about control 3000 pages of laws and spending that absolutely have nothing to do with our Health, it's about Taxation,it's about federal Government that has grown into a monster and has a big appetite, Example Our Dog catcher here in Jamestown RI makes 75.000.00 per year, Now one would wonder why we have the best Doctors in the World it's because of free market competition a person striving to be the best in private practice to make a name for him or herself and have clients that come back time and time again to get results and not get the runaround or Misdiagnosed. But mostly remember this, i have been without insurance before or under insured and have never been turned away from the Emergency room, now even as i speak i am paying off Medical bills, and i do not know anyone who has made an effort to pay small monthly payments to the hospital that has had them take their home. if you do not pay for insurance payments before you get sick, you will have to pay for the treatment after your visit. now the amount of Taxation they have now stacked on us in this so called health bill will cost us as Taxpayers more a year  by Taxation than if one would have just paid for a small insurance plan, we do and have always had programs for low income welfare patients in this country but it has been abused by those who make a living doing nothing.

[Jeff K]

Going to the "big dance" in Titusville tomorrow. Osama is going to be there telling lies so I figured it would be a good one to attend. He is going to announce an increase in funding to NASA, that explains Susan Kosmas' vote change on health care. Another bribe for a vote.

[fstsix]

Boston today T.E.A 16.000 people est In the most Democratic state in America somebody is in trouble.

Bird's Eye View: Tea Party Rally On Common	powered by Aeva

[therapist]

Wonder how many there will be Crashers?  This whole thing is kinda fun to watch but I think, ultimately, will backfire.  JMO

http://crashtheteaparty.org/

[Jeff K]

Wonder how many there will be Crashers?  This whole thing is kinda fun to watch but I think, ultimately, will backfire.  JMO

http://crashtheteaparty.org/

Google "Jason Levin", the guy is gonna get his a$$ handed to him. And most likely loose his teaching job.

[fstsix]

Well good luck to the parasites..a little out numbered LOL!!!!

[Jeff K]

Well good luck to the parasites..a little out numbered LOL!!!!

His site crashes on a regular basis, from conservatives visiting his site.

[stormrider]

I heard a rumor back several months ago that Carl Rove is behind some of the TEA Party's agenda and is in a round about way using it to bring conservatives back in the the Republican fold.

[lynn]

Here we have a health tax that goes to pay for Health etc. Doctors here can specialize as well and make a good living. 
I am all for responsible government but making 75k as a dog catcher WTF?  Here the spca sell dog/cat licenses and pay most of their own way.
3000 pages for one law WTF  I will bet that there are lots exceptions and other little goodies in there as well.
As for tax rates look at ours up here 13% sales tax on just about everything income taxes that are much higher and property taxes that would make you scream on a house valued at 400k we pay 6k in property taxes.

[Bob E.]

Here we have a health tax that goes to pay for Health etc. Doctors here can specialize as well and make a good living.  
I am all for responsible government but making 75k as a dog catcher WTF?  Here the spca sell dog/cat licenses and pay most of their own way.
3000 pages for one law WTF  I will bet that there are lots exceptions and other little goodies in there as well.
As for tax rates look at ours up here 13% sales tax on just about everything income taxes that are much higher and property taxes that would make you scream on a house valued at 400k we pay 6k in property taxes.

Actually, those property taxes aren't that different from PA.  Around here, they vary quite a bit depending on where you live.  Ten years ago, I was looking at a small house in eastern PA valued at $80,000.  Property taxes (county, local, and school district) were about $3500 per year.  I now own a small home in western PA valued at about $70,000 and my property taxes are only $1300 per year.  My buddy about a mile down the road built a new house for a little under $300K and his taxes run around $5000.  His school tax alone is $3500.  Your sales tax is about double what I pay here in PA (6%-7% depending on where you live), although clothes and most food aren't taxable...for now.  As for income taxes, it's really hard to compare.  I pay about 3% to the state, another 2% or so local, and federal, after all of the deductions for kids and other things, I really ended up only paying about 3-4% or so. People complain about high taxes...but personally I don't think that's too bad.  If I didn't have kids or own a home, it would be alot higher...probably something over 10%, and I'd probably be complaining more.  Then there's Social Security and Medicare which run about 7%.  So counting my property taxes, I figure I'm paying about 20%-22% of my gross salary in taxes (property, state, local, fed income, and sales (assuming about 1/2 of goods are taxable)).

[fstsix]

Dog catcher article...http://www.jamestownpress.com/news/2010-03-25/Front_Page/Cut_of_ACO_position_has_residents_seeing_red.html

[lynn]

This is the easiest way to do it if you can tax freedom day the article explains it fae better than i can.
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/newsandevents/news/6736.aspx

[fstsix]

Ouch!!!! i think we our on our way to over 70 %..if we could just eliminate the IRS, and flat tax all to a even playing field, so that no one could use their Tax lawyer to escape tax, we would have a surplus... what i don't understand in America ?.... is with the Gov financial problems is... they are now printing Money...like it's paper.......why not just keep printing, and why if  they can just print their way out of dept LOL... why do we even need the IRS ???  just ranting. btw.. we have been trying to Audit our federal reserve but almost all the Democrats who own congress voted NAY hummmmm ?      http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/audit-the-federal-reserve-hr-1207/