Sodbuster
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« on: May 02, 2010, 07:16:22 PM » |
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I was in the process of checkin on the condition of the rear splines that I hadn't done since I bought it last fall. I decided to remove the rear pumpkin while the wheel was off and realized that the drive shaft came with it. So, just for giggles I took a flashlight and looked up inside the swingarm tube and noticed a long curly lookin object up by the u-joint. I used a long retracking jaw clamp tool and pulled it out and here is what I found (that's a 10mm wrench I layed next to it for comparison). If you're familiar with machine shop you'll realize that curly object is the result of a drilling operation. Only thing I can think of is it's been there since it left the factory. It didn't appear to have wrecked anything. Also, I found that the splines were OK but the drive flange pins were dry and the wheel bearings were shot ....bike has 23k miles .... glad I made the effort to check things out. 
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VRCC # 30938 '99 Std. - Black & Silver - "Spirit Horse" Dear God, Seriously .... Thanks for creating beer. You rock !! 
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 08:06:24 PM » |
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Dude, your bike appears to have had a tape worm. LOL
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 10:11:43 PM » |
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Dude, your bike appears to have had a tape worm. LOL
 hey .... maybe I'll get better gas mileage now that it's gone
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VRCC # 30938 '99 Std. - Black & Silver - "Spirit Horse" Dear God, Seriously .... Thanks for creating beer. You rock !! 
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roboto65
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2010, 05:01:21 AM » |
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Allen Rugg VRCC #30806 1999 Illusion Blue Valkyrie Interstate 1978 Kawasaki KZ 650 project 
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Ferris Leets
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2010, 05:51:21 AM » |
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I found about a tea cup full of chips when I took the oil pan off of my Guzzi. I think they contributed to a premature rod bearing failure.
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MNBill
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 08:23:50 AM » |
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Could the spring used to hold the chrome driveshaft cover get sucked in the somehow??? A guess as that is what teh spring that holds mine on looks like
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MNBill SE Minnesota
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Oldswimr
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 08:50:11 AM » |
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how hard are the bearings to replace? I'm about to check my splines, so I may as well be prepared..
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sandy
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 09:53:28 AM » |
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The drive flange pins are suppose to be dry. No grease should be on them. Grease traps particles which grind away on the pins and bushings.
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Sodbuster
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 05:43:06 PM » |
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The drive flange pins are suppose to be dry. No grease should be on them. Grease traps particles which grind away on the pins and bushings.
I TOTALLY disagree .... the shop manual tells you to lube them, my reputable Honda dealer tells you to lube them with a good moly grease. All the splines and drive pins will be getting a dose of Guarddog 525 
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VRCC # 30938 '99 Std. - Black & Silver - "Spirit Horse" Dear God, Seriously .... Thanks for creating beer. You rock !! 
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 06:53:39 PM » |
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I just looked at the Service Manual Section 14 page 7 Final Driven Flange. Please tell me where it says to lube the flange pins. I can't find it. 
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Time is not what is taken but what remains. C. Drewry 
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Sodbuster
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 07:10:55 PM » |
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I just looked at the Service Manual Section 14 page 7 Final Driven Flange. Please tell me where it says to lube the flange pins. I can't find it.  I'm looking at Clymer manual .... section 11, page 370, On rear hub installation, item 5 .... "Apply a light coating of molybdenum disulfide grease to the driven flange pins (figure 33)" Also, Carl Kulow's "Valkyrie Maintenance Guide" mentions to do the same Click HERE and also in ShopTalk. I spent a good half hour talking to a Honda shop manager at a reputable dealer about it one day and he said the same. On Goldwing forums it talks about lubing the 6 pin flange but not the 5 pin flange .... go figure.
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VRCC # 30938 '99 Std. - Black & Silver - "Spirit Horse" Dear God, Seriously .... Thanks for creating beer. You rock !! 
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Printer Mike
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 09:24:24 PM » |
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Wooooh..... For a sec. thought you found the wrench in there!!! 
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RP#62
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 06:00:03 AM » |
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You can lube them if you want, but the next time you go to take the flange out of the wheel you'll understand what Sandy is talking about. The shoulder on the pins will wear a matching shoulder on the ID of the bushings which will make it harder to get them apart. If anything you can use a dry film lubricant or put some moly grease on them then wipe every last bit of it off. There will be enough remaining in the pores to adequately lube them. If you use a wet lube though, they'll wear as described. -RP
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