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« on: May 06, 2010, 03:49:33 PM » |
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Thinking of going over to Synthetic Oil. Riding buddy says he has a deal on Amsol. Heard good things about Q and Mobil though. Any thoughts or recomindations would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 05:31:41 PM » |
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do a search and u will find many opinions.
I use amsoil 10w30/30HD diesel oil.
bobistheoilguy.com has an oil analysis MC forum
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 05:34:56 PM » |
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An oil post!
hang on and grab a seat
you will not believe what is coming next!
They are fun to follow though.
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 05:58:53 PM » |
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Beware of moly and other "friction modifiers" which will screw up a wet clutch. Most motor oils have some. Diesel iols are generally OK to use. Mobil 15w50 synthetic has a bit more than their motorcycle oil but not enough to cause a problem. My answer is to make my own blend, 1/2 Mobil 15w50 and 1/2 non synthetic diesel 15w40. If your in a cold climate you might want to use a 5 or 10 w something for one of the halves. Now that I've gotten my obligatory 2Cents out of the way, I'm going to pop some corn.  |
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 06:10:00 PM » |
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Beware of moly and other "friction modifiers" which will screw up a wet clutch. Most motor oils have some. Diesel iols are generally OK to use. Mobil 15w50 synthetic has a bit more than their motorcycle oil but not enough to cause a problem. My answer is to make my own blend, 1/2 Mobil 15w50 and 1/2 non synthetic diesel 15w40. If your in a cold climate you might want to use a 5 or 10 w something for one of the halves. Now that I've gotten my obligatory 2Cents out of the way, I'm going to pop some corn. moly is not bad. it is the amount that is bad near 500 ppm and mainly for the starter clutch. the fear about moly comes from foreign scooters and their type of trans/clutch setup. I posted the SAE report number for this before. here it is again SAE 961217 study on 4-stroke engine oils for m/c. this report also states that manufactures design their engines for 10w30 oil mobil MC oils have moly in them as do other european mc oils. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 07:03:36 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 08:03:15 PM » |
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i have a starter clutch? ???
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 08:29:58 PM » |
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I'm all in, let's go, got my oil!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 01:51:56 AM » |
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It's very useful for tire threads or anything else that gets a lot of disagreements/opinions. Marty |
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 09:02:34 AM » |
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Mobil 15w50 is the oil I've running for the last 6 or 7 years. Not friction fighters in this one.I run 5k between oil changes.
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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 03:25:57 PM » |
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Been researching this on the bobistheoilguy site. Lots of info,only thing is 30 guys say 30 different things. Might try the Amsol. More worried about cold starting than anything. I've driven in some very cold situations. (Starting in my none heated Garage.) The oil looks the same when I change it, as when I put it in.I realize appearance isn't everything. All I know is this by far the best Bike I ever had and I want to take good care of it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 06:56:02 PM » |
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Might as well have asked what color Valk is the fastest.  btw....it's the Red & White ones. ......and oil.......Mobil 20/50 v-twin motorcycle oil. |
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 07:05:35 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 01:29:54 AM » |
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I agree. Red & White  Marty |
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 02:07:45 AM » |
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Sure, but Green and Silver are best at cold starting.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2010, 02:24:45 AM » |
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here we go again....................... can we atleast vote on who is gonna throw a hissyfit? how about a wet hissyfit contest? |
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2010, 05:17:57 AM » |
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Been using Mobil 15-50 for years...lots of guys here are also, BUT!!! 2 tones are FASTER!!! BLACK and CHROME.....and if ya got a CAR tire on it WELL.....flame suit on |
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2010, 06:52:39 AM » |
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Been using Mobil 1 15w50 for years in both valks with no problems. Wally world has it in 5 qt. containers for under $5 a qt. They also have the filters too. (Super Tech ST7317)
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2010, 07:30:06 AM » |
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I recently had the opertunity to talk with a former engineer who worked for Amzoil. He retired recently and was eating at a truck stop where I was in Georgia. His motorhome looked like an Amzoil billboard,so I watched for him to come out and discussed oil with him. A new amsol product that is designed for Diesel or Motorcycle and even you gas car and trucks is SAE 10w-40 Premium Protection Synthetic (coded, AMO). Haven't tried it yet, has anyone out there tryed it?  |
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2010, 07:59:57 AM » |
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I recently had the opertunity to talk with a former engineer who worked for Amzoil. He retired recently and was eating at a truck stop where I was in Georgia. His motorhome looked like an Amzoil billboard,so I watched for him to come out and discussed oil with him. A new amsol product that is designed for Diesel or Motorcycle and even you gas car and trucks is SAE 10w-40 Premium Protection Synthetic (coded, AMO). Haven't tried it yet, has anyone out there tryed it? have been using amsoil off and on since the late '80s. Their original 10w40 and 20w50 car motor oil was always rated for motorcycles which was what I used. Their mc oil sales really took off when they put that same oil in bottles with a mc on the label and of course a little higher price. their new mc oil is a different formulation than the org. for an everyday rider I don't think its much better than the org, its formulated more for the wknd rider whereas the bike sits for wks, this is from reading their formulation reports. do not have any experience with the new oil u asked about. they play marketing games like all companies however their products are top notch. I really like the 10w30/30HD diesel oil. oil temps down and shifting is really smooth, smoother than amsoil 10w40 and rotella 5w40 which is really good. never tried any of the mobil 1 oils. |
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2010, 04:02:09 PM » |
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i have a starter clutch? ???
yes, its a one way clutch assembly inside of the engine. its not a part of the starter. automobile starters have them as part of the starter |
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2010, 04:15:33 PM » |
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I've been using Amsoil's 10w40 synthetic motorcycle oil in all nine bikes for bunches of years now, and am very satisfied. It has the JASO m/c rating, so no clutch problems.
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2010, 08:05:29 PM » |
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is there any reason not to just do what the book says?
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2010, 09:29:08 PM » |
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I wouldn't use anything but the Amsoil 10-40. 8k between changes and it still drains looking better than standard oils. I've got better than 75k on my bike, no engine issues, no clutch changes, no transmissions issues, no valve adjustment needed, and it's as strong as the day I bought her. Amsoil..great oil! And no I'm not a dealer, but probably should be.  |
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2010, 06:34:16 AM » |
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I wouldn't use anything but the Amsoil 10-40. 8k between changes and it still drains looking better than standard oils. I've got better than 75k on my bike, no engine issues, no clutch changes, no transmissions issues, no valve adjustment needed, and it's as strong as the day I bought her. Amsoil..great oil! And no I'm not a dealer, but probably should be. with oil analiysis u most likely can extend the drain interval with no problems. others have posted on here of using rotella 5w40, changing every 10k and have over 100k on the bikes. "changing oil at 3k miles is just wrong for modern day oil." "Friends don't let friends change at 3k" |
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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2010, 06:45:25 AM » |
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Used Mobil One motorcycle 20w/50 switched to Redline Motorcycle 20w/50 No more oil changes at 3k with synthetic waste of money and I was adamant until recently when the engines started to say it was ok to go to 6 to 7 k.
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