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[Warlock]

 Don't know if this is so or not.
While you were watching the oil spill, the New York failed terrorist bombing and other critical crises, Hillary Clinton  signed the small arms treaty with the UN. 
  OBAMA FINDS LEGAL WAY AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT AND USES IT. IF THIS PASSES, THERE COULD BE WAR
On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States
On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.
 Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This has happened in other countries, past and present! THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR A FALSE WARNING. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Read the Article U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. View The Full Article Here
Click on the link below for further acknowledgement….. http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
  Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.  This is a very serious matter! Silence will lead us to Socialism!!!     
 

forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.  This is a very serious matter! Silence will lead us to Socialism!!!     

[stormrider]

Thanks Warlock. Tom Moore, a friend and lobbyist has been fighting this on a national level. Nothing short of an all-out uprising will stop them. Talk doesn't hurt them at all. All for them to do now is create a national emergency, ie. economic meltdown, collapse of the $$$, national environmental tragedy, etc in order to declare a state of emergency, then the Pres can forgo all our laws and our rights. Course another friend, Roy Moore has hit the nail on the head, "We don't have a politcal problem in our nation, we have a moral problem."

But what the hey, let's go ride.

[bigvalkriefan]

Just wait, the next step will be a takeover of the oil companies. Obama did some posturing yesterday when he chastised the them in a speech. $10.00 a gallon gas here we come!

[fstsix]

Subject:  .The Bankruptcy of The United States
United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303
THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!!
Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

 "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are
official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt
entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth
hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a
coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

 It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has
been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1,
Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and
insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint
Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause
dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official
capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and
Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal
Government exists today in name only.
 

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International
Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International
Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now
operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.
With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the
receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the
United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This
act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office
of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International
Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part:
"The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing
the United States."

 Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the
united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold
or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage
were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in
banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded
their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money
substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in
gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises,
and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the
federal United States government, not "money?' The federal United States
government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by
the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any
kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.
 It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and
paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money
substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have
any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long
time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel
broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of
the country?

 Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed
account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through
inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the
supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase
in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

 Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments
inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply
and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited
supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs
are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities
(T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.
 There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a
debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold,
silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt.
You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt
with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in
Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable
consideration." Un-payable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign
power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice
because they have so much wealth already.

 Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central
banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

 The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of
sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact,
the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding
stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a
law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock
Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870),
although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]
 The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and
distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a
maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United
States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or
underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific
performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

 Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a
security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or
underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the
debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve
Act for ever paying the principle.

 Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free
and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)
"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held
legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a
"beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the
federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties,
assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to
the Federal Reserve System.

 In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United
States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any
other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral
and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the
federal United States didn't have any assets, they assigned the private
property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against
the un-payable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal
territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit
organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been
transferred as payment to the international bankers.

 Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal
roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no
rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the
tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the
guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master
for another.
For those who are well read here is more.....for those here with their head in the sand don't bother go back to your Nap! http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy.htm

[Divot]

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/international-gun-ban-treaty/

[ptgb]

I am by no means either a leftist, nor am I a hardcore conservative. Consider myself squarely on the right on just about everything.

With that being said.... I mean come on.... do you really believe this stuff?

First off, the UN gun ban... we learned in 6th grade Civics class that  treaties must be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. The Secretary of State (Democrat or Republican) cannot sign treaties, they are signed by the President. Now there are other types of treaties, some need a simple majority of congress to pass them. Others are made by the president only... but the Republicans would make a field day out of something like that... there is an election in 6 months. Something like this would be perfect for them. Also, do you honestly think that the mainstream conservative media (Limbaugh, FOX, etc.) would not be all over something like this?

Secondly, the US bankruptcy/gold standard speech by Congressman Trafficant. He was my representative for many years. We know all about him here in NE Ohio. Do a little reading on him... he just got out of Federal prison after a 9 year stint for racketeering; he took kickbacks from his own staff. Probably done by most of them in Congress, but he was brazen about it. Read some of his other speeches on the floor of Congress. The only thing missing is a tinfoil hat. He is to the right what Dennis Kucinich is to the left... fringe at best.

This is my first... and last foray into a political post on this board. Not trolling for responses (won't respond anyway)... but this stuff is the same as when the leftists scream about the "vast right-wing conspiracy", "new world order", Chaney's secret bunkers, etc.

I think Obama is a bozo... but hell, I thought Bush was a bozo too. I never understood why either side fans flames just for shock value, makes no sense to me....

[Scanner]

If you fall for everything, you can't stand for anything.

I'd be happy if they would simply learn what "socialism" is and quit using it as a rallying cry for every imaginary cause they come up with.  It's way beyond the crying wolf stage to where it's just asinine and obscures any validity they may have had.

[Steve K (IA)]

If you fall for everything, you can't stand for anything.

I'd be happy if they would simply learn what "socialism" is and quit using it as a rallying cry for every imaginary cause they come up with.  It's way beyond the crying wolf stage to where it's just asinine and obscures any validity they may have had.

 

[asfltdncr]

The sky is falling!  The sky is falling!   

[asfltdncr]

Subject:  .The Bankruptcy of The United States
United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303
THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!!
Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

 "Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11.. Members of Congress are
official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt
entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth
hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a
coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

 It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has
been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1,
Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and
insolvent. H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933 - Joint
Resolution To Suspend The Gold Standard and Abrogate The Gold Clause
dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official
capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and
Departments and is further evidence that the United States Federal
Government exists today in name only.
 

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International
Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International
Monetary Fund. All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now
operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.
With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the
receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the
United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an
established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America. This
act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office
of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International
Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part:
"The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing
the United States."

 Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the
united states of America, that the founding fathers declared that only gold
or silver coins can be "money" in America. Since gold and silver coinage
were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in
banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute. People traded
their coupons as money, or "currency." Currency is not money, but a money
substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in
gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises,
and are not "money." A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the
federal United States government, not "money?' The federal United States
government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by
the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any
kind, but only lawful money, -gold and silver coin.
 It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and
paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money
substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have
any "money." Most Americans have not been paid any "money" for a very long
time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel
broke? Now, do you understand why you are "bankrupt," along with the rest of
the country?

 Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed
account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through
inflation (devaluation of currency). when ever there is an increase of the
supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase
in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

 Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments
inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply
and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited
supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs
are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities
(T-Bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.
 There is a fundamental difference between "paying" and "discharging" a
debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold,
silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt.
You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt
with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in
Common law is valid unless it involves an exchange of "good & valuable
consideration." Un-payable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign
power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity or justice
because they have so much wealth already.

 Their lust is for power and control. Since the inception of central
banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

 The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of
sovereignty protected in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. In fact,
the international bankers used a "Canon Law Trust" as their model, adding
stock and naming it a "Joint Stock Trust." The U.S. Congress had passed a
law making it illegal for any legal "person" to duplicate a "Joint Stock
Trust" in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post-facto (to 1870),
although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution. [1:9:3]
 The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and
distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a
maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United
States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or
underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific
performance in paying the interest, or premiums are the same.

 Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a
security without taking possession of it.) as security by the lender or
underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the
debt was to be paid in gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve
Act for ever paying the principle.

 Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free
and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913)
"Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of
Governors of the Federal Reserve, -in which the Trustees (stockholders) held
legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a
"beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the
federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties,
assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to
the Federal Reserve System.

 In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United
States corporation all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any
other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral
and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the
federal United States didn't have any assets, they assigned the private
property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against
the un-payable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal
territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit
organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been
transferred as payment to the international bankers.

 Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal
roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no
rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the
tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the
guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the people have exchanged one master
for another.
For those who are well read here is more.....for those here with their head in the sand don't bother go back to your Nap! http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy.htm

What the fu.....?

[valkmc]

To me these types of things are no different than Al Gore's cries for global warming, if you cry long and hard enough you start to believe all of it. What ever happenned to the middle, this government was formed to prevent either far out side from taking over. It has worked for 200+ years.

[asfltdncr]

I don't believe the government was formed for that specifically but entertaining that thought, who decides what is far out and what is not and for whom?  I do believe that the "fringers" on both sides of the isle have too much influence over their party. 

[fstsix]

No Snopes ?.......yawn  LOL!!!!

[Charlie]

I am by no means either a leftist, nor am I a hardcore conservative. Consider myself squarely on the right on just about everything.

With that being said.... I mean come on.... do you really believe this stuff?

First off, the UN gun ban... we learned in 6th grade Civics class that  treaties must be ratified by 2/3 of the Senate. The Secretary of State (Democrat or Republican) cannot sign treaties, they are signed by the President. Now there are other types of treaties, some need a simple majority of congress to pass them. Others are made by the president only... but the Republicans would make a field day out of something like that... there is an election in 6 months. Something like this would be perfect for them. Also, do you honestly think that the mainstream conservative media (Limbaugh, FOX, etc.) would not be all over something like this?

Secondly, the US bankruptcy/gold standard speech by Congressman Trafficant. He was my representative for many years. We know all about him here in NE Ohio. Do a little reading on him... he just got out of Federal prison after a 9 year stint for racketeering; he took kickbacks from his own staff. Probably done by most of them in Congress, but he was brazen about it. Read some of his other speeches on the floor of Congress. The only thing missing is a tinfoil hat. He is to the right what Dennis Kucinich is to the left... fringe at best.

This is my first... and last foray into a political post on this board. Not trolling for responses (won't respond anyway)... but this stuff is the same as when the leftists scream about the "vast right-wing conspiracy", "new world order", Chaney's secret bunkers, etc.

I think Obama is a bozo... but hell, I thought Bush was a bozo too. I never understood why either side fans flames just for shock value, makes no sense to me....

Well said.  You nailed it, Bro!!!!

[Charlie]

To me these types of things are no different than Al Gore's cries for global warming, if you cry long and hard enough you start to believe all of it. What ever happenned to the middle, this government was formed to prevent either far out side from taking over. It has worked for 200+ years.

Man, I was just starting to think I was the only Independent thinker in this club!! This post shows there are a number of them out there!!!

Well said, Bro!!!

[Charlie]

No Snopes ?.......yawn  LOL!!!!

Did you miss Divots post?  Not Snopes, but pretty clear where this came from!

[fstsix]

No Snopes ?.......yawn  LOL!!!!

Did you miss Divots post?  Not Snopes, but pretty clear where this came from!

Still waiting............

[fstsix]

At 9.29 listen to JFK

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[Oss]

The War of 1812 was a war fought between the United States of America and the British Empire – particularly Great Britain and the provinces of British North America, the antecedent of Canada. Lasting from 1812 to 1815, it was fought chiefly on the Atlantic Ocean and on the land, coasts and waterways of North America.

The United States took the initiative in declaring war for multiple reasons. In 1807, Britain introduced a series of trade restrictions to impede on-going American trade with France, Britain's long-time rival. The U.S. contested these restrictions as illegal under international law. Both the impressment of American citizens into the Royal Navy, and Britain's military support of American Indians who were attacking American settlers moving into the Northwest further aggravated tensions. Indian raids hindered the expansion of U.S. into potentially valuable farmlands in the Northwest Territory, comprising the modern states of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Some British officials – and some dissident Americans – charged that the goal was to annex part of Canada, but they did not specify which part. The states nearest Canada strongly opposed the war

Most important, the United States sought to uphold its national honor in the face of what they considered to be British insults, such as the Chesapeake affair.

n June 22, 1807, the American frigate Chesapeake was stopped by the British ship Leopard for the purpose of inspecting the American crew for possible deserters.

The Leopard and the ChesapeakeThe Chesapeake’s captain refused and the British opened fire, causing extensive damage to the ship. The American ship was boarded and four accused deserters were forcibly removed.

The event, clearly a violation of America's neutral rights, was widely reported in the newspapers and heightened the calls for war against Britain. The Chesapeake Affair was one additional grievance leading toward the War of 1812. Although the British made some concessions before the war on neutral trade, they insisted on the right to reclaim their deserting sailors. The British also had the long-standing goal of creating a large "neutral" Indian state that would cover much of Ohio, Indiana and Michigan. They made the demand as late as the fall of 1814 at the peace conference, but lost control of western Ontario at key battles on Lake Erie, thus giving the Americans control of the proposed neutral zone.

-----------fstsix  usually I enjoy your posts but know this
The video you posted was funded by an anti Zionist organization whose purpose is to dehumanize jews and particularly Israel  to isolate it and to eliminate its existence  Do some google research and you can see  is true. Putting out these "fires" is something that many people spend much time doing as those who would destroy Israel and well as this country are active and creative

any video or program that seeks to dehumanize is not going to help  This is a red flag we all should keep in the back of our minds.

My humble suggestion is when you get an email, snopes and google and check some more  and if you post say I got this email and I wonder what you all think about this one  Dont just drink the KOOLAID

[fstsix]

Well OSS....this was only a Art form of Video (Sound familiar) i do recall a post i did about Westpoint and Chris Mathews and calling our Military Cadets the Enemy Camp,and your response about it as my Son was a Cadet @ the USAF academy, This post i did Challenge for some one to Snopes it as a debate not to be Anti Semitic, as far as the info you posted the dates are correct, as far as the reason for war was as accurate as Bush starting a war just to steal OIL from the Mid East, or WMD'S that some would say were never found, You and i will never know all the reasons Man will start Wars, But i will tell you it is not for his Health mostly Greed and power, I am not happy with what this currant Administration is doing to keep The Apple of Gods eye safe and secure but that is a other topic , If you want to tell us that the federal reserve is Government agency please sent the Links for my education, But due to the Democrats Stopping Ron Pauls Audit the federal Reserve we may never know were all this money comes from or goes, No surprise, Don't forget as my family comes from Poland that we didn't suffer too, most Polls were also Jews! that was not what this topic was about Brother. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System#Independent_within_government

[Oss]

understood  and you know I have not accused you of being prejudiced   sound bites are just easy to mislead people and I called what I perceived.

fstsix our views are pretty similar in a great many of the things we have discussed privately in our emails off the boards and we both have lots of polish in our blood as well   


It does seem that Cartels, whether drug, oil, arms  all benefit when two sides fight  This has always been the case and will probably be so in the future as well 

These are indeed dangerous times my friend no doubt about it and we must all be vigilent and consider well what we read and see.  The politics of fear is real.

Isnt it so sad that Mankind always loses in these times as it is our sons daughters and families who are sent to battle, not the kingpins of industry over mans greed and hate

I am going to ride my Valk in the morning, burn some dinosaur dna and watch the sun come up before work. It aint much but its all  I can do right now

[fstsix]

understood  and you know I have not accused you of being prejudiced   sound bites are just easy to mislead people and I called what I perceived.

fstsix our views are pretty similar in a great many of the things we have discussed privately in our emails off the boards and we both have lots of polish in our blood as well   


It does seem that Cartels, whether drug, oil, arms  all benefit when two sides fight  This has always been the case and will probably be so in the future as well 

These are indeed dangerous times my friend no doubt about it and we must all be vigilent and consider well what we read and see.  The politics of fear is real.

Isnt it so sad that Mankind always loses in these times as it is our sons daughters and families who are sent to battle, not the kingpins of industry over mans greed and hate

I am going to ride my Valk in the morning, burn some dinosaur dna and watch the sun come up before work. It aint much but its all  I can do right now

Understood, and ride safe brother, Greg

[John Schmidt]

Considering their stance and sources. I'll not expand on it here, just go do some digging on your own. You'll be surprised as to how much of their stuff is opinion vs. fact, and which side of the aisle they are on in most issues.

Just sayin'....

[stormrider]

G Edward Griffin's book, "Creature From Jekyll Island" spells it all out about the Fed.