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stormrider
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« on: May 30, 2010, 06:42:12 AM »

Is there any validity to these two men's ideas? I was thinking the same thing about using a supertanker and a huge sump pump to suck up the crude. Make a huge shop vac, attach a 48" bell to the end, place it over the crude spewing out and suck it up. Seperate the sea water from the crude and it pays for itself. How hard is that? If BP can't solve their problem then get them out of the way and let someone who can get in there and get the job done. There are incompantant people in lots of high places and it appears BP is no exception. There are a lot of people gonna suffer dearly for BP's mistakes and a lot of sea life paying a dear price.


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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 10:34:20 AM »

I watched the President of BP USA being interviewed on CNN by Wolf Blitzer on Fri night.
 
When asked about the BP/Government relationship he quite candidly said that BP did nothing about the oil spill without the approval of the Feds.
 
I thought Blitzer would attack him but nothing was said.
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 11:07:12 AM »

Well there goes the whole of the Gulf Region.

So sad for those that Lived through Katrina, and now this.

Dang It, to put it mildly.


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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 01:11:08 PM »

I watched the President of BP USA being interviewed on CNN by Wolf Blitzer on Fri night.
 
When asked about the BP/Government relationship he quite candidly said that BP did nothing about the oil spill without the approval of the Feds.
 
I thought Blitzer would attack him but nothing was said.

How'd you do that? I thought ya'll were on the road. How was the ride? We've been getting some of the much needed wet stuff.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 01:52:05 PM »

I watched the President of BP USA being interviewed on CNN by Wolf Blitzer on Fri night.
 
When asked about the BP/Government relationship he quite candidly said that BP did nothing about the oil spill without the approval of the Feds.
 
I thought Blitzer would attack him but nothing was said.

How'd you do that? I thought ya'll were on the road. How was the ride? We've been getting some of the much needed wet stuff.

Friday night I was in Knoxville with the rest of the reprobates.

Ride on Saturday was good. No drama. No rain.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 04:23:53 PM »

BP exec says end point for leak is relief well
 

 
 WASHINGTON — A BP executive says a relief well is the "end point" of efforts to stop the Gulf oil spill — which suggests there's little chance of plugging the leak until the new well is completed in August.

BP managing director Bob Dudley tells ABC's "This Week" that the current attempt to cap the leaking well would at best minimize the oil flowing into the Gulf of Mexico.

Dudley says the relief well expected to be ready at the end of August "is certainly the end point on this game."

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A BP executive says BP will learn from its failed attempts to stop the Gulf oil spill and apply those lessons to its next try.

BP managing director Robert Dudley says unmanned submarines working a mile below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico will try to saw through a leaking pipe and then cap it with a funnel-like device built to capture the oil.

This next attempt will be similar to a containment dome that failed to work.

Dudley says BP will try to pump warm sea water down the pipe to keep the oil and gas warmer and prevent ice from forming. That was blamed for the earlier failure.

Dudley spoke on "Fox News Sunday" with later appearances on CNN's "State of the Union," ABC's "This Week," NBC's "Meet the Press" and CBS' "Face the Nation."
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 05:52:28 PM »

New Agenda for Obama.

1 Apoligize to Louisiana

2 "            to Florida

3 "            to Key West

4  "           to BIMINI

5  "           to Newfoundland

6  "           to Iceland

7  "           to Greenland

8  "           to British Isles where he is already building Sand Berms to alleviate the oiling of beaches

                to save the British People from the hazardous chemicals we will soon have blown all over

                us by the next tropical/hurricane event.

                Oh wait that would help another country where BP is from.

9  " Then on to the Antilles and Spain for a whirl wind bowing tour to all our friends in Europe.

10  "    Oh well then we have Africa, I bet he really kisses some booty there..



This is just the beginning of the follies that we will have under him.

and don't try tellin me George Bush pulled this out of his hat.

Do what's right ,, nuke the damn thing shut and get on with it.

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 05:57:23 PM »

A explosive charge sent down that hole about a thousand feet to at least in the rock layer covering the oil field.

detonate it.

Would that not close the well?

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 06:06:16 PM »

I for one will no longer buy anything from BP until they get a sense of urgency about this disaster.  Shocked

You can blame Obama if you like, but the first finger needs to be pointed at BP and their lack of proper planning before hand and in my opinion, no sense of urgency since it happend.  Sad

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 06:54:25 PM »

I for one will no longer buy anything from BP until they get a sense of urgency about this disaster.  Shocked

You can blame Obama if you like, but the first finger needs to be pointed at BP and their lack of proper planning before hand and in my opinion, no sense of urgency since it happend.  Sad



I also think you can blame the gov. who allowed them to drill wells with out any safety shut offs like other govs. require. From what I understand all of the rigs in the Gulf are set up the same way. The technology is there to advert this type of accident  but it cost lots of $. I love the gulf and spend a lot of time in Clearwater and this makes me sick. Big Business needs to be regulated or they will destroy this planet. Money is the only thing important to companies like BP, not the environment, not workers or citizens. I try not to rant but the fact that oil is spilling into the gulf everyday and the jerks who caused it cannot fix it, the president who is in power does not seem to be helping and all the political supporters of big business who were yelling DRILL BABY DRILL are not doing anything, really pisses me off. They will have to drill a new well and it will not be operational until August according to BP, so I expect sometime in Sept or Oct. I feel bad for all those who make a living near the Gulf.
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 09:59:57 PM »

I for one will no longer buy anything from BP until they get a sense of urgency about this disaster.  Shocked

You can blame Obama if you like, but the first finger needs to be pointed at BP and their lack of proper planning before hand and in my opinion, no sense of urgency since it happend.  Sad



I also think you can blame the gov. who allowed them to drill wells with out any safety shut offs like other govs. require. From what I understand all of the rigs in the Gulf are set up the same way. The technology is there to advert this type of accident  but it cost lots of $. I love the gulf and spend a lot of time in Clearwater and this makes me sick. Big Business needs to be regulated or they will destroy this planet. Money is the only thing important to companies like BP, not the environment, not workers or citizens. I try not to rant but the fact that oil is spilling into the gulf everyday and the jerks who caused it cannot fix it, the president who is in power does not seem to be helping and all the political supporters of big business who were yelling DRILL BABY DRILL are not doing anything, really pisses me off. They will have to drill a new well and it will not be operational until August according to BP, so I expect sometime in Sept or Oct. I feel bad for all those who make a living near the Gulf.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2010, 06:20:41 AM »

I for one will no longer buy anything from BP until they get a sense of urgency about this disaster.  Shocked

You can blame Obama if you like, but the first finger needs to be pointed at BP and their lack of proper planning before hand and in my opinion, no sense of urgency since it happend.  Sad



I dont blame "president" Obama for the spill.....not even for the mistakes leading up to it.  I blame him for the arrogance of claiming hes on top of something he has done nothing to help.  AND he has tools at his disposal.  There was an emergency plan and equipment standing by for such a problem that took days and days and days for BP to actually get rounded up.  If Obama was on top of it he would have made them snap to immediately.  Also the fishermen with thier boats "standing by" NOT being used to corral and pick up surface oil.  Obama could have got in there too and got all resources operational.  Other countries have had spills and they have made some way for big ships to SUCK it up.........I wonder if any international clout was used to get that kind of help......Doubt it.  

See, When failure is not an option and you care about results, not your own reputation........stuff can get done.  I dont think Obama cares enough to feel that American Spirit, that "balls to the wall" go the extra mile attitude.

Give that problem to a handful of Marines and it would be solved because THEY CARE
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2010, 06:45:08 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2010, 06:59:20 AM »

Some body has to be the BOSS.

When it goes bad no one wants that Job.

So we get what we have here and that's the way he wants it.

I don't like this anymore than you guys.

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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2010, 07:56:10 AM »

See, When failure is not an option and you care about results, not your own reputation........stuff can get done.  I dont think Obama cares enough to feel that American Spirit, that "balls to the wall" go the extra mile attitude.

Give that problem to a handful of Marines and it would be solved because THEY CARE


That's not what Adm. Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has to say.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/31/mike-mullen-oil-industry-_n_595206.html

But of course, you must be far more informed than the admiral.  And while I'm at it, I'm plain damn tired of your accusations that this President we currently have doesn't care.  I call you on your bullsh*t.  You've no evidence... just a wound up automaton with nothing original to say.
 
You may agree or disagree with policy and actions but to say that he doesn't care is nothing more than small thinking, and you've been thinking real small in the vast majority of your political posts.
 
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2010, 08:21:14 AM »

See, When failure is not an option and you care about results, not your own reputation........stuff can get done.  I dont think Obama cares enough to feel that American Spirit, that "balls to the wall" go the extra mile attitude.

Give that problem to a handful of Marines and it would be solved because THEY CARE


That's not what Adm. Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has to say.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/31/mike-mullen-oil-industry-_n_595206.html

But of course, you must be far more informed than the admiral.  And while I'm at it, I'm plain damn tired of your accusations that this President we currently have doesn't care.  I call you on your bullsh*t.  You've no evidence... just a wound up automaton with nothing original to say.
 
You may agree or disagree with policy and actions but to say that he doesn't care is nothing more than small thinking, and you've been thinking real small in the vast majority of your political posts.
 
Cheers.



Wayne I really hate it when I have to agree with you...but in this rare case we see it the same way.  I honestly believe that the president is fully engaged and is willing to bring whatever resources are needed in order to put this disaster behind us.  This is going to be a tough fix....and the country needs to be united in order to put this behind us as soon as possible.

However my greatest anger is not that the president is being unfairly criticized...my greatest anger is that some conservatives are demagoging this issue for political gain JUST LIKE liberals demagogued George Bush flying Airforce One over New Orleans after Katrina to inspect the damage...and not landing. 

I naively expected a higher standard from conservatives....so far I have been grossly disappointed.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2010, 08:32:38 AM »

See, When failure is not an option and you care about results, not your own reputation........stuff can get done.  I dont think Obama cares enough to feel that American Spirit, that "balls to the wall" go the extra mile attitude.

Give that problem to a handful of Marines and it would be solved because THEY CARE


That's not what Adm. Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has to say.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/31/mike-mullen-oil-industry-_n_595206.html

But of course, you must be far more informed than the admiral.  And while I'm at it, I'm plain damn tired of your accusations that this President we currently have doesn't care.  I call you on your bullsh*t.  You've no evidence... just a wound up automaton with nothing original to say.
 
You may agree or disagree with policy and actions but to say that he doesn't care is nothing more than small thinking, and you've been thinking real small in the vast majority of your political posts.
 
Cheers.


LOL the Huffington Post.....a real fair and balanced piece of work there.  All the dude said was that the oil companies are better equipped......not that being so has helped them accomplish much........All I said, and I stand by it........when failure isint an option MUCH can be done with little and our Marines embody that mindset.

SE  glad to see you are back to spew personal attacks again right on cue........thats the real small thinking here........attack your fellows because they dont like your golden boys actions.......par for the course

And I did have three positive actions that could have mitigated this catastrophe if whoever was in charge did the job:
1. get surface skimmers working immediately and continuosly to remove the oil that surfaced.
2. Ask other nations that have successfully delt with this to help
3. Employ ALL available resources NOW, instead of letting them sit idle.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2010, 08:53:41 AM »

Well, Chris... or whomever you are, this is about what I expected from you.

a)  Was the article in the Huffington Post factually incorrect?  I mean, did they make it up?  If I find the same article in a local rag or maybe the WSJ, would you be happy?  LOL!  Not, dude.  Wake up.

b)  Personal attacks?  I said I was tired of your bullsh*t.  I am tired of your bullsh*t.  That's not a personal attack, that's my opinion, and if you can't figure that out, you've missed an important part of your education.
 
c)  Personal attacks?  Like calling your thinking small?  You don't get it, do you?  I call you a sniveling, moronic assh*le, that's a personal attack.  I say that you are small in your thinking, that's a judgment about your ideas, not you personally.  You seem incapable of making that distinction.  You'd never make it in a debating society.

But, you'll never get this.  Your arguments lack specificity, just like Sarah.  You attack without facts, then whine about personal abuse when challenged... just like Sarah.  I get that you just like to whine... and if you think that's a personal attack, we'll then... I just don't give a sh*t.

PS:  Surface skimmers are in use.  The Huffpost has shown lots of pictures of dual boat combos dragging containment booms to capture oil.  Rest assured that no other country can come close to the technology that the US has for solving this problem.  Other countries call on us.  And finally, oh great guru (OK, maybe that is a personal attack), what exactly are these resources that are lying idle?
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2010, 09:23:28 AM »

LOL!!!! Wayne.....you certainty learned from the best  Grin making statements without the FACTS  2funny Remember O's father never told him when to SIT Down and SHUT  UP LOL!!! Oh i guess Kennedy's seat took by Scott Brown was the Wrong thing to say, to the Wrong part of the Most Democratic place in America cooldude
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2010, 09:27:04 AM »

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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2010, 09:42:10 AM »

Boys, boys, now, let's see, is there a vialble solution to the gulf oil spill? Seems I heard Saudia Arabia had a similar spill and sucked it up into a super tanker just like suggested. Don't give a darn about who's to blame for the incident and who's doing what or nothing, just that all available resources and ideas are put into action. Seems there is very little gov't oversight and some of the boys supposedly checking up on the drilling rigs were taking favors to look the other way. I think they all share in the blame, gov't and industry. However, pointing fingers dosen't solve the problem at hand. There will be plenty of time later for the lawsuits to take place. Right now somebody needs to git-er-dun or get out of the way and let someone who knows what they are doing resolve the mess. And not all the technology available is being utilized.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2010, 12:31:41 PM »

Gas prices here in Arkansas have dropped to 239.9/gallon.  They were at 289.9 when the leak started.  That is about 10 cents per week.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2010, 04:13:26 PM »

Gas prices here in Arkansas have dropped to 239.9/gallon.  They were at 289.9 when the leak started.  That is about 10 cents per week.

On the news today, they were saying PCB, FL tourism was up from last year in large part due to the spill. Maybe the folkes at BP got condos to rent down there.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2010, 09:49:01 AM »

I for one will no longer buy anything from BP until they get a sense of urgency about this disaster.  Shocked

You can blame Obama if you like, but the first finger needs to be pointed at BP and their lack of proper planning before hand and in my opinion, no sense of urgency since it happend.  Sad



I also think you can blame the gov. who allowed them to drill wells with out any safety shut offs like other govs. require. From what I understand all of the rigs in the Gulf are set up the same way. The technology is there to advert this type of accident  but it cost lots of $. I love the gulf and spend a lot of time in Clearwater and this makes me sick. Big Business needs to be regulated or they will destroy this planet. Money is the only thing important to companies like BP, not the environment, not workers or citizens. I try not to rant but the fact that oil is spilling into the gulf everyday and the jerks who caused it cannot fix it, the president who is in power does not seem to be helping and all the political supporters of big business who were yelling DRILL BABY DRILL are not doing anything, really pisses me off. They will have to drill a new well and it will not be operational until August according to BP, so I expect sometime in Sept or Oct. I feel bad for all those who make a living near the Gulf.
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I was not refering to just Palin, there are people on both sides of our Gov. who support drilling as is. It is not going to help the current problem by pointing fingers at either side, we have to first fix this mess (more debt for all of us) and then make sure the dummies who drill do it with safety for the workers and environment in mind instead of just their bottom line. The arguing between parties has gotten so bad that this country is stuck and we can not fix anything. Immigration, banking, healthcare, you name it, it seems like it is impossible to do anything. Maybe someone should have listened to Washington and Adams when they spoke in opposition of political parties. I know two parties are better than one but what ever happened to cooperation, I am sure both sides blame the other for the lack of it. I wonder if we all would cooperate more if there were no political party leadership telling us how to look at every situtation.
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