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Brian Huntzinger, EMT-P
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« on: March 17, 2009, 08:38:41 PM » |
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Any one have suggestions on a good method to replace these without pulling the heads?
I'm not completely opposed to the idea, but if I pull them then I'm gonna want to send them off to be reworked. It's smack in the middle of riding season and I don't want to be down that long.
Also, if I do need to go that route, where in the HECK do I find Head gaskets?
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2009, 04:49:20 AM » |
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Get hold of or machine a hollow adapter which screws into the plug hole and allows you to connect an air compressor to it. Then pull the lifter assemblies off the affected cylinder banks. Install the adapter into the cylinder with the bad seals, connect a compressor which can supply 100-120psi at several CFM then pressurize the cylinder. The applied air pressure will hold the valves closed, and you can remove the damaged seals and install new ones.
Honda should have head gaskets. Failing that, try Vesrah. They should be the same as those used on the GL1500 'Wing...
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 05:52:10 AM » |
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Same principle, different method as what Bagger John said is to feed some small diameter rope into the spark plug hole. -RP
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Gunslinger
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Brian Huntzinger, EMT-P
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 09:04:56 PM » |
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Ok, Both good ideas. Looking at the heads today... Any suggestions for compressing the springs to put it all back together?
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2009, 02:24:27 AM » |
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for about 8 dollars at autozone they have a valve spring compression tool, it compresses the spring so you can take the keepers off and reinstall them. tip:use a dab of grease on the keeper halfs to keep them in place while unboing the compression tool 
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Jeff K
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 06:31:14 AM » |
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I took an old spark plug and hollowed it out. Then brazed a pipe nipple on it for an air fitting. I'd be happy to mail it to you, if you'd just mail it back when you're done.
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Brian Huntzinger, EMT-P
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 06:59:41 AM » |
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I took an old spark plug and hollowed it out. Then brazed a pipe nipple on it for an air fitting. I'd be happy to mail it to you, if you'd just mail it back when you're done.
I appreciate that, but I think I can make the adapter on my compression gauge fit to an airline.
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Brian Huntzinger, EMT-P
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2009, 07:01:10 AM » |
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for about 8 dollars at autozone they have a valve spring compression tool, it compresses the spring so you can take the keepers off and reinstall them. tip:use a dab of grease on the keeper halfs to keep them in place while unboing the compression tool  I will check that out, Still waiting on the stem seals to arrive.... 
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2009, 06:59:25 PM » |
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Just kind of curious as to why you are replacing the seals? In most Valks they are really not doing their job and theres usually not a problem. If you have a compression tester you could adapt that hose to use as the air inlet. Also to release the keepers off the valve get a socket and put it on the head of the valve spring and tap it. Be prepared because it will just pop off.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2009, 07:27:14 PM » |
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Just kind of curious as to why you are replacing the seals? In most Valks they are really not doing their job and theres usually not a problem. If you have a compression tester you could adapt that hose to use as the air inlet. Also to release the keepers off the valve get a socket and put it on the head of the valve spring and tap it. Be prepared because it will just pop off.
and how do you plan to put the keepers back on after you replace the seal? hit the socket in the revers order? 
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2009, 05:17:23 AM » |
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Your name fits you junior. Its quite obvious that you have never done this kind of work for a lively hood, probably to your benefit. I think Ill let you wonder how to put them back on. 
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