R J
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« on: June 06, 2010, 12:24:25 PM » |
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Turn signals. Lots of people forget to turn them off, including me.
If I turn a corner, I never forget as when I hit 2nd gear I punch the button.
OK, on to the story...........
Was coming home from church this morning in da Ram and was following a car. We were meeting a motorcycle, guess what, he had his Blinker on. I had noticed it about a block further up the road. The car flipped on his blinker and started to turn in front of the bike. I laid down on the horn, and at the last second he realized what I was trying to tell him. Bike swerved enough to miss him.
Now, this is the part that pissed me off and I told the rider.
He swerved, did a "U" turn in da middle of traffic and took off after the car. Well, this old fat retarded cop decided to go along for the ride.
When I rolled up and stopped the biker was tearing this guy a new A'hole. I asked him what the problem was and he replied, "this M*****F***** turned right in front of me. I asked if he knew why, he said yeah, he's a dumb stupid SOB.
I asked him if he'd go turn the key on on his bike. Blink Blink Blink, he turned told the guy he was sorry and rode off........ I talked to the gentleman in the car, and he was scared sheetless, because he didn't know how he missed the bike even after I honked at him.
SO PLEASE TRY TO REMEMBER TO TURN THEM OFF, OR GET YA A BUTT SIGNAL THAT TICKLES YOUR INARDS...... ......
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 12:33:05 PM » |
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KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 12:40:06 PM » |
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Good advice. I probably turn mine off 10 times more then I turn it on as it is a habit to constantly check to be sure. 
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R J
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 01:03:20 PM » |
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Good advice. I probably turn mine off 10 times more then I turn it on as it is a habit to constantly check to be sure.  Anytime I hit 2nd gear, I punch the button, especially out of a corner, I also pucnh it a bunch of times just like I still try to get another cog out of the tranny..... HABIT, and I'm glad I still have and use it......
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 01:11:30 PM » |
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After driving road tractors for years, I developed the habit of canceling a turn signal by hand. It followed through to the bike. I also find myself at times punching the button... just to make sure.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 01:25:37 PM » |
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Yup, that's a pet peeve of mine. Two guys I won't ride with anymore because they won't turn off their blinkers. I mean really, it's not that hard is it? You gotta remember to turn the key on to start it right? I find it extremely annoying and dangerous and just plain not curtious to your fellow riders. Same guy forgot to turn his blinker on and made an abrupt right turn while in a group and caused the rider behind him to rear end him, don't want to get into a debate about following distance, this was just plain STUPID and could have been avoided. I feel so strong about it that folks that can't remember, maybe shouldn't be riding at all.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 01:43:27 PM » |
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My Harley turns it off for yah, My Kawie Mean Streak turns it off for yah, why is it not mandatory for the manufacturer to install self cancelling turn signals on all motorcycles? My Honda Don't , turn it off for yah. Smokin Joe has commented many times about this, one of his old Yamahas had this feature. Honda, being a more technologically based company should have this. Go figure. You saved a life today and probably avoided a guy getting a arse whipping. Good Post , becuase that signal being on, at the wrong time, can get you hurt. But Honda can build a pretty good Robot. Robot's Name "HOMO HABILIEUS" http://www.youtube.com/user/Honda?feature=pyv&ad=4612975014&kw=honda&gclid=CJ7v9e2ojKICFRX6iAodFio3UQ#p/u/0/AF0WsvfG_nI
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 01:46:15 PM » |
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I can hear Forest Gump tell the guy on the bike... Stupid is as STUPID does ! 
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 01:47:10 PM » |
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Good advice. I probably turn mine off 10 times more then I turn it on as it is a habit to constantly check to be sure.  I ride down the road punching the signal cancel button, but there are still times when I miss canceling it. I'm only human. I often wish Mother Honda had spent another few bucks per bike and installed self canceling turn signals and four way flashers.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 01:53:53 PM » |
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My Harley turns it off for yah, My Kawie Mean Streak turns it off for yah, why is it not
mandatory for the manufacturer to install self cancelling turn signals on all motorcycles?
My Honda Don't , turn it off for yah.
Smokin Joe has commented many times about this, one of his old Yamahas had this feature.
Honda, being a more technologically based company should have this.
Even on brands (except HD) that have canceling turn signals, it's not across the board. My Vulcans don't have them, the VMax doesn't have them, nor do the Suzukis or the Triumph. In fact, only the Gold Wings (and the Harley) have self canceling turn signals.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 01:57:57 PM » |
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Four Way Flashers, now that's another thing I miss having.
What are these engineers thinking.
Thanks for reminding me.
It's hit and miss at best on these options.
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KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 02:03:05 PM » |
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My Harley turns it off for yah, My Kawie Mean Streak turns it off for yah, why is it not mandatory for the manufacturer to install self cancelling turn signals on all motorcycles? My Honda Don't , turn it off for yah. Smokin Joe has commented many times about this, one of his old Yamahas had this feature. Honda, being a more technologically based company should have this. Go figure. You saved a life today and probably avoided a guy getting a arse whipping. Good Post , becuase that signal being on, at the wrong time, can get you hurt. But Honda can build a pretty good Robot. Robot's Name "HOMO HABILIEUS" http://www.youtube.com/user/Honda?feature=pyv&ad=4612975014&kw=honda&gclid=CJ7v9e2ojKICFRX6iAodFio3UQ#p/u/0/AF0WsvfG_nIMy Nomad did it too 
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2010, 03:05:13 PM » |
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Both of my goldwings had them (1100 and 1500) and when I read the Valkyrie owners manual they almost approached it like it was a better feature to not have self cancel. I will say the 'wings would often turn them off when I wanted them on - which if you don't realize it can be just as dangerous as forgetting to cancel them if not more so.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2010, 03:26:51 PM » |
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Both of my goldwings had them (1100 and 1500) and when I read the Valkyrie owners manual they almost approached it like it was a better feature to not have self cancel. I will say the 'wings would often turn them off when I wanted them on - which if you don't realize it can be just as dangerous as forgetting to cancel them if not more so.
Usually when my Wings turn off the signals prematurely, it's when I'm sitting in traffic waiting to make the turn -- trips some type of time sensor, I guess. However, not only do I cancel my turn signals while riding down the road, I also tend to turn them on even when they are already on. I guess I've become obsessive about the turn signals as well as the side stand. Oh, well ........
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2010, 04:34:25 PM » |
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My .02 worth. I agree with all said. Signal ON when it is supposed to be- OFF when it ain't! For about $110 you can purchase a device which provides automatic cancellation of the turn signals (after 10, 20 or 30 flashes-programmable) lane change feature (hold the switch and the signal flashes till you release) and four way flashers and escort mode (wig wag). I have one on my I/S trike & love it. It also suspends the timer as long as the brake is on so it won't time out at those long red lights. Available here: https://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=4
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2010, 04:39:47 PM » |
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Have it on my I/S, won't work on Wizard's standard. Requires separate right/left indicator lights, standards have only one.
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2010, 04:41:25 PM » |
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I can honestly say that I have never forgot to turn off my signals since installing these piezo's...they have a nice loud beep to remind that they are still on! By the way I adjusted the piezo's after this photo was taken so that the speakers where not facing each other. 
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2010, 05:03:51 PM » |
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Have it on my I/S, won't work on Wizard's standard. Requires separate right/left indicator lights, standards have only one. Lyn-Del, he should be able to use it on his Std. if he installs the diode kit in the headlight bucket. It's the feedback across the indicator light that usually causes it since Honda uses a common circuit across it for boht turn signals. All the diode kit does is separates left/right, often needed if you have LED turns as well. Get them at Kuryakyn or make one from parts picked up at Radio Trash. As for self canceling...I have them on my Valk, but did it in a different manner a few years ago. It cost too much to get the switch boxes and master cylinders chromed, so for a lot less money, work, and time, I changed the handlebar controls over to HD controls. They have separate turn buttons which Honda should have gone with. When I did the changeover, I installed the PentaStar XP module. It gives you three different timed turn signal periods, and like Kisan will hold the circuit when you have the brake on, let off the brake and it will continue to time out. Will run anywhere from about 10 sec. to 75 seconds, depending on how long you press the turn button originally. You can kill it by just pressing the turn button again. Press both left/right together, you get 4-way. Press again together, they go off. That module also works as a brake and run light converter so you get a whole bunch of functions in one module smaller than a regular pack of cigarettes. Only trouble with it....won't work with the single button turns like the Valk has. It might work if the diode kit is installed since that separates the left/right circuits, would cost you about $104 for the module to find out, plus the cost of the diode kit. FWIW....that diode kit is only $7.99 from Kury. And even with the self canceling feature, I still find myself checking and will shut them off early if I'm already around the corner.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2010, 06:36:45 PM » |
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Not to be argumentative, but the installation manual (yea, I actually read the manual  ) for the Kisan unit covered several models and I am almost certain they have a unit that works for single indicator types. So maybe Wizard should give them a call tomorrow & see what they have to say. They are located here in Colorado Springs, so they will be on MDT. Stan
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2010, 07:04:01 PM » |
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I have a standard and the Kisan signal minder and it does work including the indicator. The problem came when I did led bulbs front and rear then there's a problem even with the led indicator that they will willingly send you. I now use the reflection in the running lights as a indicator. I could set up a separate indicator for each side but really not a problem. With the Signal Minder you do have self canceling turns, parade flash, four way, alternate flash. I also like that with the brakes applied it keeps the signals flashing till you release the brakes. Did I mention that you can also keep the turns flashing like doing a lane change as long as you hold the turn signal switch on then when you release it the lights will stop flashing immediately. Keep the module dry or it does funny things but will flash leds without any other resistors in line. I really like the unit it has helped me by turning off my turn signals which I know I would forget without this.  They are really helpful if you call too. As I ride more and more I find that most dont deliberately do bad things to us as motorcycle riders, most are either in their own world or just plain to stupid to think of the consequences of their actions. The ones that are to stupid or in their own world you waist your time arguing with them and the ones that do it deliberately you better know your in for a fight and possible waste to a day.
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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2010, 08:49:52 PM » |
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I have a blinker-buddy buzzer in my seat and a Kisan self-canceling module as well. If the blinkers self-cancel before I want them to then my vibrator stops and I just restart them as needed: Belt and suspenders mentality. I find that I manually cancel them after a turn anyway, though, as I never want to send an errant message to drivers anywhere near me.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2010, 04:19:22 AM » |
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We have a signal to one another... a short little "beep" means you left a signal on. I cancel mine about every 30 seconds I think...  But I still leave them on ocassionally. I try HARD not to.  Jabba
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2010, 06:30:36 AM » |
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I wholeheartedly endorse the Kisan Signalminder for the Valk. I have one on my Interstate and I love it, especially with all the features mentioned above. I also installed the Vectralights, which attach to the Signalminder and give me additional running lights and turn signals on my mirrors. I know the four-ways have kept me safer a few times. Hope it helps.
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