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« on: July 06, 2010, 03:01:19 PM » |
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Has anyone taken off the plastic heat shield behind the radiator, if so what was the results of taking it off. Any over heating problems or other issues to know.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 04:43:42 PM » |
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is probably to keep radiator heat off the carbs and the operator. The shield sends it out the sides.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 04:48:05 PM » |
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I haven't taken it off either... but I'd have to agree...
Probably just for pushing the hot air out to the sides.
It's only made of plastic, so I doubt it does anything overly important.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 07:22:08 PM » |
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The PO took it off my IS and also the pods.... made a big difference once igot them back on.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 07:59:39 PM » |
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When I took my carbs out to clean and rejet on my '97 tourer, I fought and fought trying to get the shield back in. I gave up and left it out. I rode it all last summer amd didn't notice any real difference in the heat of the bike. I sold bike last winter with it still not installed.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2015, 01:01:34 PM » |
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ANY tips on getting this sucker back in?? I rejetted the carbs and swapped out rotten vacuum tubes but now I can't get the stinkin' deflecter back in right. It's sitting just a SMIDGE too tall for the airbox to seat properly.  Can't figure it out to save my life, but fortunately, can't ride for a bit, but would like to have her ready to go at a moment's notice. Thanks in advance! |
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2015, 01:26:43 PM » |
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ANY tips on getting this sucker back in?? I rejetted the carbs and swapped out rotten vacuum tubes but now I can't get the stinkin' deflecter back in right. It's sitting just a SMIDGE too tall for the airbox to seat properly. Can't figure it out to save my life, but fortunately, can't ride for a bit, but would like to have her ready to go at a moment's notice. Thanks in advance! Obviously the radiator has to be off. I found a few minutes in the oven on low heat made it MUCH more flexible. Just make sure you have it facing the right way when you get started |
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2015, 02:11:31 PM » |
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My bike was missing the shield when I bought it. You can fold it in half and work it down between the frame tubes from the top. It is flexible and can be done, but not easy. The top goes under the wiring behind the neck on the frame.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2015, 02:42:08 PM » |
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ANY tips on getting this sucker back in?? I rejetted the carbs and swapped out rotten vacuum tubes but now I can't get the stinkin' deflecter back in right. It's sitting just a SMIDGE too tall for the airbox to seat properly. Can't figure it out to save my life, but fortunately, can't ride for a bit, but would like to have her ready to go at a moment's notice. Thanks in advance! Obviously the radiator has to be off. I found a few minutes in the oven on low heat made it MUCH more flexible. Just make sure you have it facing the right way when you get started I did it with the radiator on. I'm sure it's easier without it off. |
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 02:50:16 PM » |
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Took me less than 5 minutes to put the heat shield back on when I rebuilt my carbs. Did not have to take the radiator off either. Put the heat shield in first and then the carbs.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 03:34:53 PM » |
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Took me less than 5 minutes to put the heat shield back on when I rebuilt my carbs. Did not have to take the radiator off either. Put the heat shield in first and then the carbs.
Hey, what's the jacket you are wearing in your signature photo? It looks like leather with armour and reflective ribbon, exactly what I'm looking for. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 04:53:51 PM » |
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Took me less than 5 minutes to put the heat shield back on when I rebuilt my carbs. Did not have to take the radiator off either. Put the heat shield in first and then the carbs.
Hey, what's the jacket you are wearing in your signature photo? It looks like leather with armour and reflective ribbon, exactly what I'm looking for. No Armour, but has reflective piping. Got it from hot leathers when they had a sale before Christmas for a whopping 70 bucks. http://www.hotleathers.com/Hot-Leathers-Mens-Grey-Striped-Racing-Jacket-P6746C207.aspx |
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 03:35:24 PM » |
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Made a big difference on the heat factor on my 03, PO had taken it out and it pumped a lot of heat on hot days. Should not be a problem installing it if the carbs are out.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 05:34:56 PM » |
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Don't understand why you would remove it to pull the carbs ???
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 07:46:55 PM » |
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Don't understand why you would remove it to pull the carbs ???
He stated that it was not installed when he bought it Signart, he may want to install another one when the heat hits him this summer. One thing I didn't mention in my post was there is a difference in design between the I/S and the other models. I got one for an I/S and had to trim it for the Standard. |
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2015, 07:57:30 AM » |
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IS may be different, but at least 2 posts refer to struggling with the heat shield during carb service, just wondering what that has to do with it.
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 11:36:42 AM » |
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The shield is in the way when pulling the carbs and must be removed. It's a ROYAL PITA, but just one of those things we've learned to live with.  |
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2015, 11:52:41 AM » |
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The shield is in the way when pulling the carbs and must be removed. It's a ROYAL PITA, but just one of those things we've learned to live with. I've pulled the carb bank twice. if both engine supports are removed no need to remove shield. manual calls for support removal, I don't remember it directing removal of the shield as I did not have to. I'll re-check manual tonight. Just checked manual does not require shield removal just both engine supports. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2015, 12:55:19 PM » |
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I was following D-Ray's YouTube videos for guidance. He never got around to detailing exactly how to put the stinkin' thing back in.
I will say it made removing the carb bank MUCH easier, but now I'm dealing with this ...
Thanks for all the replies!
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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2015, 03:12:27 PM » |
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CA is correct, no need to remove the shield for carb removal, but you will need to remove the carbs to install a shield if you don't have one.
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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2015, 03:21:41 PM » |
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CA is correct, no need to remove the shield for carb removal, but you will need to remove the carbs to install a shield if you don't have one.
not true, just remove the radiator, get it in from the front |
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2015, 04:09:42 PM » |
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I've never removed the engine supports, I took the advice from this board over ten years ago of removing the carbs by pulling the shield first. Been doing it that way since. PITA, but it works.
Looking at it, seems there's alot of fiddle parts behind the supports that mount the coils. Do the coils come off with supports? Do you pull the coil wires?
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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2015, 04:42:29 PM » |
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Looking at it, seems there's alot of fiddle parts behind the supports that mount the coils. Do the coils come off with supports? Do you pull the coil wires?
no disconnecting of coils or wires needed, just unplug from plugs. plenty of room to move it out of the way. ignition side no problem either. |
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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2015, 06:31:02 PM » |
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CA is correct, no need to remove the shield for carb removal, but you will need to remove the carbs to install a shield if you don't have one.
not true, just remove the radiator, get it in from the front I've rebuilt a few Valkyries, never had to remove the radiator to install that shield or remove and install carbs, as was stated, just remove engine hangers and move them back. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2015, 07:20:23 PM » |
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CA is correct, no need to remove the shield for carb removal, but you will need to remove the carbs to install a shield if you don't have one.
not true, just remove the radiator, get it in from the front I've rebuilt a few Valkyries, never had to remove the radiator to install that shield or remove and install carbs, as was stated, just remove engine hangers and move them back. To each his own.......I think its much easier to remove a radiator than unhook the carb bank and engine mounts. But, Hey whatever works for you |
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2015, 03:28:12 AM » |
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CA is correct, no need to remove the shield for carb removal, but you will need to remove the carbs to install a shield if you don't have one.
not true, just remove the radiator, get it in from the front I've rebuilt a few Valkyries, never had to remove the radiator to install that shield or remove and install carbs, as was stated, just remove engine hangers and move them back. To each his own.......I think its much easier to remove a radiator than unhook the carb bank and engine mounts. But, Hey whatever works for you CHrisJ, kinda two threads/questions going on here, u know we all do this in a lot of threads. if just replacing the shield yes your way is best and really the only way it should be done, I have not seen in manual about removing it at all. 2nd question was if the shield needed to be removed to remove carbs, answer is no, just the engine mounts. |
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2015, 04:58:21 AM » |
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2nd question was if the shield needed to be removed to remove carbs, answer is no, just the engine mounts. If I remember correctly, which I don't, a lot, back in the day someone posted about taking the shield out so you could slide the carb bank out w/o removing the supports. I didn't ask, nor was it stated, which procedure was better or easier, I just did it that way since. Guess that proves the old saying "You learn something new every day" Next time, I'll try the support removal way. It might not include as much cussing, but I doubt it. |
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2015, 03:08:18 PM » |
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No need to take off the radiator if you have the airbox off. With the intake runners off, assuming you had the carbs out, from the left side hold the shield in the position it will eventually be in. Now rotate it clockwise 90 deg. laying it on it's back side, slide it in on top of the carbs and then move it forwards rotating it downwards and it will fall into place. Kinda like a puzzle.  It did take a lot of head scratching before I figured it out. If I ever do this again, it will be a non issue. The reason for knowing/having to deal with this is on my Std, I changed out the shield for an Interstate one because I put I/S pods on and wanted them to be functional.  |
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2015, 06:07:47 AM » |
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Next time, I'll try the support removal way. It might not include as much cussing, but I doubt it. Last night I re-installed my carbs. I installed the plastic guard first, removed the motor supports and slid the carb bank in w/o any cussing.  Dang, why have I been messing around with that plastic POS for so long? I did manage to misplace one of the support bolts, not finding it for 15 min or so, so some cussing was involved.  |
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2017, 07:13:13 PM » |
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I was following D-Ray's YouTube videos for guidance. He never got around to detailing exactly how to put the stinkin' thing back in.
I will say it made removing the carb bank MUCH easier, but now I'm dealing with this ...
Thanks for all the replies!
I watched that video too before I started my carb removal... I'm going to cut mine in half and reinstall it one side @ a time......................  |
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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2017, 04:21:38 PM » |
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I forgot to put mine back in and there is a lot of heat on the rider with that off, it was then I realized I forgot it.
So if you don't get it back together in the middle you may have some heat
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2017, 04:51:28 PM » |
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To replace the heat shield the previous owner had removed along with the pods...
I cheated.......
I cut it in half and drilled 4 holes in it..... slid each half in from each side... zip ties thru holes....
Been like that for 7 years.... Did not remove it to do carbs
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2017, 06:42:03 AM » |
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