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[98valk]

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[ricoman]

Had read a little about this. Seem to remember a doctor saying somewhere that it could be related to the cause of so many childhood sicknesses  and medicine resistance.
We (in my house) have taken to watching closely what the contents are in our food, although there is no requirement to list food sources that are from genetically modified crops (seeds).
There is a growing industry in "antique" seeds from pre-engineered times.
I am hopeful that people will become aware of the seriousness of this issue and, through non-purchasing of products containing these engineered genes, will cause changes in what we are offered by manufacterers/producers of food.
God help us if the government gets into the picture.
I would however, welcome a "gene' to be introduced to my Valk that would give her self healing capabilities. Playing the Oral Roberts record in the garage has not worked!

[Billy]

They say these beans were found in ancient SW Indian ruins and are now being cultivated in the Southwest. Anasazi beans are small kidney shaped purple and white beans in the same family as pinto beans. They can be used in Latin American and Southwestern cuisines, and have a mild, sweet flavor which pairs with a mealy texture. Anasazi beans cook much more quickly than regular beans, and they appear to have been a part of the human diet in the Americas for thousands of years. The beans are also marketed as New Mexico cave beans, Aztec beans, New Mexico appaloosas, and Jacob's Cattle beans.

Taste purty good as far as beans go.

[Bobbo]

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I am always leery of dooms-day soothsayers who are selling a book or movie.

Remember the 2000 (Y2K) dooms-day time bomb?  Many books were sold, and millions of dollars were extracted from the uneducated masses.  Instead of a gazillion megaton nuclear explosion as was predicted, the problem was more like a cap gun pop.

Is genetically engineered food the next Y2K scare to make money on?

On a similar note, what about hybrid foods?  Those are foods that don’t exist in nature, and have been manipulated towards some desirable improvement.  Seedless grapes and oranges come to mind.  Should we consider these dangerous as well?

[Serk]

Remember the 2000 (Y2K) dooms-day time bomb?  Many books were sold, and millions of dollars were extracted from the uneducated masses.  Instead of a gazillion megaton nuclear explosion as was predicted, the problem was more like a cap gun pop.

I'm not gonna wade into the GM foods issue, but... Y2K was a cap gun and not a complete disaster because a LOT of people worked their asses off for several years making sure it wasn't a complete disaster... Had all the work not been done to rectify the issue before 12/31/99, things woulda been MUCH different...

[Bobbo]

Remember the 2000 (Y2K) dooms-day time bomb?  Many books were sold, and millions of dollars were extracted from the uneducated masses.  Instead of a gazillion megaton nuclear explosion as was predicted, the problem was more like a cap gun pop.

I'm not gonna wade into the GM foods issue, but... Y2K was a cap gun and not a complete disaster because a LOT of people worked their asses off for several years making sure it wasn't a complete disaster... Had all the work not been done to rectify the issue before 12/31/99, things woulda been MUCH different...

My point was not that very little work was done towards Y2K compatibility (I was a part of that), but rather many books were sold on scare tactics like satellites and airplanes would fall from the skies, cars would stop at the stroke of midnight, home appliances would not function, and the like.  Most programs that used the two-digit date code for anything remotely important were obsolete well before the race to Y2K.  The majority of the work was done on programs that calculate interest and other business related things.

[Pete]

Bobbo "Most programs that used the two-digit date code for anything remotely important were obsolete well before the race to Y2K.  The majority of the work was done on programs that calculate interest and other business related things."

Not sure where you were but 2 digit year date programs were one of the MAJOR problems. The majority of the changes were in programs aging files and using dates for calculations (a few did include interest calculations).

As was micro code in hardware that rolled dates from 99 to 1982, 1900, 195x, etc.

++99 Serk.

[Bobbo]

Bobbo "Most programs that used the two-digit date code for anything remotely important were obsolete well before the race to Y2K.  The majority of the work was done on programs that calculate interest and other business related things."

Not sure where you were but 2 digit year date programs were one of the MAJOR problems. The majority of the changes were in programs aging files and using dates for calculations (a few did include interest calculations).

As was micro code in hardware that rolled dates from 99 to 1982, 1900, 195x, etc.

++99 Serk.

I guess I need to add more detail…  Most important software, meaning DOD, military contractors, aviation, transportation, and even most major businesses, had been upgraded by 1995, mainly because of new hardware.  Of course, the main concern was the two-digit rollover.  Anything using a date that included the year was a potential problem.  The majority of the work from 1995 to 2000 was things like interest calculations, personnel files, and food freshness codes.

Again, my main point was the Y2K problem was expanded into a giant propaganda machine to get people worried and sell books.

[Serk]

Again, my main point was the Y2K problem was expanded into a giant propaganda machine to get people worried and sell books.

That I will agree with. I even made a little money off of the paranoia myself (Had a "Stocking up on wood and canned goods" distant relative who got into a discussion with me about it in early 1999. I bet him $100 that everything would be fine, called him the morning of 01/01/2000 and, miracle of miracles, the call went through just fine.)

(One more idiotic Y2K story. Had a anti-gun co-worker who was stocking up on food and batteries, water, etc, but refused to buy any guns. He asked me how my stocking up was going... Told him I wasn't worried, I had guns, I had ammo, I knew how to use 'em. Me and my family would eat. We might be eating YOUR food, but we'll be eating... (Same guy, while watching the news of Katrina hitting New Orleans a few years later turns to me and asked what gun he should get to best protect his family should something like that happen here.))


My concern is, I've seen several times it referenced (Not necessarily in this thread specifically) that Y2K was a scam, or a lie, and THAT I strongly disagree with, it WAS a serious issue, but it was dealt with by a lot of dedicated people doing a lot of work, and thus there was no (Well, very VERY few) visible issues when the calendar rolled over...

Anyway, sorry to cause a threadjack, from GM foods to Y2K...

[Jabba]

(One more idiotic Y2K story. Had a anti-gun co-worker who was stocking up on food and batteries, water, etc, but refused to buy any guns. He asked me how my stocking up was going... Told him I wasn't worried, I had guns, I had ammo, I knew how to use 'em. Me and my family would eat. We might be eating YOUR food, but we'll be eating...

Funny, I was reading this thread... ready to enter my story like this...

My Mother-in-Law stockpiled for Y2K.  She couldn't believe I wasn't.  I told her I did.  I had guns... and I bought a few extra cases of ammo.  If you have that, you can GET whatever else you need.


Glad to know there are others out there like me.  Now... if the ever TSHTF, we all need to get together... and not kill oneanother.  But rather, the illprepared.

Jabba

[Bobbo]

(One more idiotic Y2K story. Had a anti-gun co-worker who was stocking up on food and batteries, water, etc, but refused to buy any guns.

I think we all know someone who was caught up in this frenzy.  My Father-in-law was one similar to what you described.  He horded canned food, batteries, water, and of all things, old rusted junk bicycles!  His plan was to sell the junk bicycles for a huge profit when all of the cars stopped working.  I should’ve made a similar comment about having guns instead of stockpiling!

I think we still have a case or two of the canned beef stew!